SAS Plans Huge Wide Body Fleet Growth With New A330neos, Used A330ceos

KLM will retire a330 when a350 comes this year

Greta is going to be pissed

KLM may indeed have a ready buyer with an SAS which is slated to see an even bigger share of SAS controlled by AF-KL.

Curious to see which places SAS plans to serve with the planes from its plane-acquisition plans. SAS is already worried in ways about how its US routes are doing.

Don’t understand why they commit to that in the verge of being absorbed into AFKL group. Moreover when AFKL don’t have A330 plans and in the future they will need to align with AFKL strategy…

Probably the quickest widebody deliveries they can get at short notice. The 330neo hasn't been nearly as popular as the A350 or 787

And with Russian airspace being off limits, expansion into East and Southeast Asia seems challenging, especially with A333s and A339s.

Super exciting! When does SAS attempt to join the Delta / AF / KLM / VA joint venture? Imagine that success with this volume of wide bodies will be very dependent on having that happen.

This is what happens when you get purchased by AFKL, not LHG. All the governments that selled out to LHG and now see their airlines driven to the ground should take a note.

I had read it was 18 339s, 12 options, and 10 used 333s, but the infr=ormation seems hard to nail.

CPH needs an airside short-stay hotel, as both AMS and CDG already have.

Ahhh yes the famously well functioning LHG, headed by LH which is the worst performing airline of said group and brilliant at rolling out products on time.

M or on

Why?

They have shared ownership, but they're not the same airline, they don't have the same costs, they don't have the same hub-flows, and they don't have the same MRO.

So why would they need to have the same aircraft?

I would be willing to give them a shot to fly to Europe, but those 45 minute connections in CPH scare me to death.

SAS' North-American network is very weak due to the lack of long-haul aircraft, so they have a lot of room to grow. When SAS announced SEA service last year, they were also studying MSP, but their fleet can't sustain both. It makes sense for them to fill out additional DL hubs like MSP and DTW, fill in missing DOW service and increase beyond 1x in major markets like JFK and LAX. Plug holes in the NA network, like MIA, DFW, IAH, YUL, YVR. They can also hop on the European airline trend of serving the bottomless pit of demand that is India.

I'm curious to see what comes of their A359 fleet. Simplifying and reducing the gauge of their long-haul fleet seems like a smart move considering SAS' struggles over the years.

I was initially confused why AFKL would be interested in growing another Northern European hub but with AMS growth being constrained and KLM likely needing to focus more on serving local traffic going forward, having another connecting complex so geographically close makes a lot of sense.

They really don’t. Denmark is a tiny country. Center of Copenhagen is literally 15 minutes ride on the airport train. Been there done that in the summer of 2009. Overslept, and missed my flight.

That stupid nut job is no longer relevant. She doesn’t even represent Scandinavian or Nordic people.

You definitely don't need to come. We're good on Americans, tak.

Also "good" on Russians, I assume... What other nationalities are on your not-wanted list?

Just go back to your credit card points and your freeway motel Fairfield. We're busy having six weeks of summer holidays here in our more productive society.

"You definitely don't need to come. We're good on Americans, tak."

Hmmm, sounding like you could use a bit of "freedom." Hope your basement's deep....

I wish those orders were for A350s instead, but glad at least they're growing.

AF-KL needs a lower cost hub in Europe's North-East to compete in lower yield Eastern Europe TATL markets. Especially with the deepening Air Baltic-LHG cooperation. Those sub-par planes play in this strategy. This is also a way to hedge against AMS restrictions.

Longer term East Asia is also interesting when/if Russia reopen.

If they can get their hands on TAP they will get their Southwestern low cost hub (when LIS relocates to Alcochete) and have a pretty good coverage against IAG and LHG. Leaving only Vienna/Istanbul unchecked as western and central Asia powerhouses.

How is CPH a lower cost hub than CDG and AMS?

You agree with the guy and call him names lol

How… SASsy…

It is not. It will be used as one by not being premium configured: using cheap planes that are cheaply configured, serving lower yield markets.
The premium powerhouse remains AF. And SAS and KLM will share the load to serve eastern Europe