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Royal Jordanian Plans Flights To Dallas, Miami, Los Angeles

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Royal Jordanian is currently undergoing an impressive fleet modernization and expansion. When it comes to wide body jets, the airline currently has seven Boeing 787-8s, and it plans to acquire six more Boeing 787-9s in the coming years, which basically doubles long haul capacity.

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(@Icarus)
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RJ used to fly to Los Angeles with L1011 Tristars.


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(@LAXLonghorn)
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The US routes make sense just because of AA hubs plus market density of LAX, though MIA seems an odd fit...I would have thought PHL a better fit.


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(@khatl)
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Yep, American hubs... which explains why Boston isn't on the list of priorities


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(@Guest)
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Royal Jordanian will be at a disadvantage at LAX, compared to the three other Middle Eastern airlines that serve LAX (Turkish, Emirates, and Qatar). The other three serve Iran, and get lots of connecting passengers from the large Iranian population in LA. RJ doesn’t fly to Iran. Also, the other three airlines have far more flights to the Indian Subcontinent, and a lot of LA passengers on those three carriers fly to the Subcontinent.


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 Jay
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DFW area has been gaining a huge Middle Eastern population over the past 10-12 years or so. It was only a matter of time that another Gulf airline would start service to DFW after EK, QR, TK.


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(@Tomas)
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The flight was one stop svc via Vienna:
LAX-VIE-AMM


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(@Julia)
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Royal Jordanian isn't a "Gulf airline"...neither is Turkish for that matter.


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(@Simon)
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Miami is a much larger market to the Levantine than Boston is. Royal Jordanian flew to both LAX and MIA in the late 80s/early 90s via Vienna.


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(@Simon)
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Miami is a large local market to the Middle East, Philadelphia isn’t even one fourth the size.


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(@Simon)
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And Miami was flown via Vienna with A310s.


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(@LAXLonghorn)
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Hi Simon, my PHL reference was about connectivity, not local market. Hubs are about connectivity, no?


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(@LAXLonghorn)
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@Julia...semantics. It's about hub to hub connectivity in the region. And AMM and IST are in the region.


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(@DFW Flyer)
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PHL and MIA catchments are almost the same exact population size. I don’t have any thought on whether or not PHL has 25% the Middle East population but that seems drastic.


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(@yoloswag420)
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Does anyone know how well Royal Jordanian's business is doing these days?

I can't imagine they're exactly a thriving market for tourism and I don't see how they win on the connecting game either.

I constantly see tons of RJ seats available for rewards on Alaska all year round.


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(@Barbarella)
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I guess there are two ways to classify middle east carriers: access to cheap fuel and willingness to be a global hub.
RJ is a "no" to both. Which makes it quite different from most carriers in the region
It somewhat resembles El Al in that matter, except El Al caters to a massive diaspora where RJ's interests are mostly tourism. I'm not clear if the fertilizer mining industry (potash/phosphate) would be a driver of business travel towards the US?

Maybe RJ's closest carrier is Lebanon's MEA, which has more diaspora and less tourism and is mostly a regional carrier.

Maybe RJ's expansion is mostly a vanity project ?


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Diamond
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LAX makes sense. 12% of LA county is Arab. Wealthy Arabs. Alot of connecting traffic will develop over AMM to India.

There is insatiable demand between DFW / LAX to India....they are just tapping into the market that has zero bounds. MIA will be a popular destination; and they can pick up Central and Northern South American traffic.


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Diamond
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LAX has service from 5 Middle Eastern airlines:

Emirates, Qatar, Turkish, Saudia, and El Al.


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Diamond
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12% of LA county is Arab

You're misreading that statistic.

L.A. county is home to 12% (approx 45,000) of California's Arabs.... not 12% of the county's ~10million person population.

Alot of connecting traffic will develop over AMM to India

Maybe. But not sure what would make them more compelling than transiting DXB/DOH/SFO/JFK/EWR/YYZ/YVR/LHR/CDG/AMS/FRA/IST/ZRH/WAW/HKG/SIN/ICN or the zillion other 1stop options that already exist here.


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(@Simon)
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Not talking about catchment talking about local market size. Miami is a massively larger travel market to the Middle East than Philadelphia.


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(@LAXLonghorn)
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Folks... these services are to align with AA hubs and connectivity, which is why I wonder about PHL v MIA. Potential exception of DTW and YYZ/YUL, no other single North American market has enough traffic to AMM (inclusive also Lebanon) alone. And get real, you think there's enough connecting traffic from Latin America to Jordan via the AA MIA hub?


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(@Julia)
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No, it isn't semantics, it's like saying Belgium is a Nordic country.


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Diamond
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Great. Yet another plane load of tourists lining up in the 2 mile queue at TB arrivals customs every afternoon.


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 John
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@ConcordeLadyBoy is on a roll today...you go guuuurl!


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(@yoloswag420)
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Facts.

One of the most delusional posters here.


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(@Simon)
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You grossly underestimate the size of the local market in Miami. The beyond Miami connections are irrelevant. The beyond Amman are much more important. The fifth largest U.S.-Middle East local market is Miami.


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(@Barbarella)
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I see 0 delusion in his below comments. Were some removed ?

And even if there was. How does that earn him a transphobic moniker ?

Maybe you guys got burnt by his direct factual style. For what ever reason you decided, alone, that this was an attack on your manhood and you decided that negating his was the best way to protect yours ?

But for anything to require protection, that anything would have had to be under attack and to pre-exist. Obviously neither was or did.


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(@Speedbird)
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LA definitely makes sense, there’s a decent sized Palestinian community there and a lot of Palestinians visiting family like to enter the West Bank through the Allenby bridge via Jordan. MIA and DFW are both one world hubs with decent sized middle eastern populations as well


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Diamond
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I see 0 delusion in his below comments. Were some removed ?

Nope. One's just butthurt over not being able to figure out basic block-quotes that take 2seconds to type, the other is just... weird. Neither is of consequence, no need for concern.


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Diamond
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Feminising someone who identifies as male to denigrate him is misogyny pure and simple. So much to unpack in using 'ladyboy' in this way.


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(@Tim Dumb)
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The irony being you are the one that can't figure out blockquote formatting hence your blockquote explosion paired with constant verbal diarrhea.


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(@yoloswag420)
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I'm just gonna pull a ConcordeBoy and use his own direct quote and say this about his comments below (and in general): "know that very little of this is factual"


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(@NOLAviator)
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what did he say that is not true here


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 Bill
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LA does not have a large terrorist community, the terrorists are mainly in Detroit.


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 BB
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Zio Bill you can’t hide, you’re supporting genocide.

A typically disgraceful comment from a Ziofascist. Get in the bin.


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