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Review: Azores Airlines Business Class A310 Boston To Ponta Delgada

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Before I get into this report, I think it's important to differentiate between actual enthusiasm of a product, and aviation geek enthusiasm of a product. I suspect most aviation geeks will appreciate why I was excited to fly an A310, while others will probably be scratching their head. I boarded through the forward door (the…

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(@jeffqm)
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I think you should start reviewing economy seats. 😉


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(@charliemcmillan)
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I admire your interest as an aviation geek, but man, that's a horrible airline on so many levels. Can you imagine how bad it would be in economy? It's too bad they don't offer airport transfer in a vintage East German Trebant, then you could have the full nostalgic travel experience.


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(@matt-db)
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Lucky you are being way too generous. That is a disaster. I would never fly that airline. Thank you for the sacrifice.


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 ABC
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Ponta Delgada Airport arrivals hall looks great!


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(@patrickj)
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Hi Lucky, with flights in Economy for under $300, do you really think there is $600 in value for Business Class? At what point is the upgrade not worth it? I understand the direct flight is great but I wouldn't pay an additional $600 for a 4hr flight that Business and Economy are almost the same....


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 AJO
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J looks like a waste of money. Try Y next time!


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(@JoeMart)
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I have to correct your wrong impression about the service. It's only labeled rude if the crew throws the trays at you, comment you could use a being on a diet, tell you to talk to the hand because the ears ain't listening and suggest were to put your drink requests. 😉


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(@brteacher)
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I am flying that plane next month on a one-way economy ticket that cost me $218. It's going to be horrible, but the price is right, and the flight isn't long, and I'm really looking forward to spending a week in the Azores.


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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Maybe the crew wasn't rude. I say that for two reasons:

1. The crew was short-staffed, according to the one flight attendant. I'm sure that put them in a lousy mood.
2. Maybe language was a barrier. I flew TAP in business-class from New York-Lisbon and thought the staff was rude until I realized that most of the crew in business-class were not fluent in English. I was the only native English speaker in the business-class cabin on this particular flight.

But, in reality, let's be honest. This is a random airline that's somewhere between a low-cost carrier and a flag carrier of an obscure island that most folks can't find on the map. My guess is the airline is heavily subsidized/government-owned, which probably accounts for much of its poor service and lack of amenities. It's basically viewed as a essential lifeline for the inhabitants of the island, like the puddle-jumpers in rural, wilderness Alaska.


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(@John the Wanderer)
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This is a rare find. I don't think many of these 310's are in service. The business cabin reminds me of the old style first class on Northwest/Delta.

I loved the photos from up in the air. The sky was beautiful.


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(@Brian Banff)
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If you want to fly an A310 again why not fly Air Transat? They've still got quite a few of them going from YTZ - LGW and other European cities. I think they've recently refurbished them too.


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(@smallmj)
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For a different (hopefully better?) take on the A310, try the Transat A310 club class before they leave service. It looks like a PE or very low end Business product to me, but the interiors are quite new. Y is 9 accross, so I wouldn't try that in a million years.


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(@Jason)
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I don't see the appeal in the A310, other than that they are pretty old now and rare as a result. Lucky, maybe you'd care to elaborate. I'm glad you enjoyed what otherwise seems like an awful flight!


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(@Marina)
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@FNT Delta Diamond: surely "Hello" oder "How are you?" should be in their vocabulary, no? I don't understand why people constantly make excuses for why some people don't do their job right or are plain rude.


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(@Benjamin J Travel)
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Oh man, that looks rough! But I have to say it's still pretty cool to fly such a rare plane.


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 Nick
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"Do you need me to put it in the chiller?” = WTF this passanger is talking about?

Ben, you remind me of Sheldon Cooper that can't understand SARCASM 🙂


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(@Mauricio Matos)
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They have Airbus A321neo on order (4 of them, I think) to fly the noth american routes, the first one should arrive this year...so that plane wont be around for much longer.


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(@Mauricio Matos)
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And yes, just like FNT Delta Diamond said, thar airline exists to connect the 9 azores islands in the first place. Those routes no the US and Canada exist because there are a lot of natives from Azores living there.


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 John
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Lucky: do you have sparkling wine?
Attendant: Do you need me to put it in the chiller? (What the attendant really wanted to say: would you like some caviar and lobster along with the Dom Perignon?)

1. If they had had sparkling wine, it WOULD HAVE BEEN in the chiller. Where did they have it? in the overhead bin or under the seat with the lifevest?

Laught at a passanger is unacceptable.


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No brekky, or did you sleep through it?


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@ alpha -- Nope, nothing. It is a short flight, so I can't blame them (though you'd think they'd come around with coffee or juice or something).


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(@Devansh)
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Small Typo. I hope you meant "after the meal was *done*" and not *dine* . Love your blog btw . 🙂


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(@Eddie)
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Let's also not forget that this flight was shorter than transcontinental domestic U.S. flights.

@Marina: I wasn't aware that Lucky's review was verbatim, but it's not being rude if the flight attendant has never been trained to a higher standard. It's one thing if the flight attendant isn't following the airline's service standard.


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(@matthew)
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Oh man, Ford is so patient with you. If my partner dragged me on there when a lie-flat bed could've got me across the Atlantic... divorce!


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(@Morgan)
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Lucky thanks for the review but I would never fly on Azores Airlines seemed like a horrible horrible airline that doesn't deserve money


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 Matt
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Well, I guess it's all relative. That plane looks brand new, and the crew and food great compared to my Air Zimbabwe flight on a 30 year old 762 a few weeks ago ...


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(@Rita Baumann)
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Loved your review. My husband and I had the misfortune of being on the June 25, 2017 flight that was cancelled more than 3 nights in a row. SATA has no idea what customer service is. They never told us why our flights were cancelled, they never offered to help us rebook, and even didn't know what time their ticket counter opened. They did give us hotel vouchers for 2 of the 3 cancelled flights because we were from California. The passengers from the greater Boston area where told to go home and come back the next day because they lived close enough! We ended up cancelling the rest of our tour of the Azores because we missed so much of it standing in lines at the SATA counter. NO, I will never fly this airline, because they are the prime example of how not to treat passengers. (That plane looks downright scary unsafe!) And no, we have not been reimbursed for all those cancelled flights. They don't answer phones or emails either. Just say no to SATA.


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(@JuanCarlos)
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Horrible flash backs of Aeromexico Madrid to Mexico City service on 767 in the mid 2000s. The seats and J class cabin look alike


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(@Peter)
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You always speak about Ford. WHO is that?


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(@Marina)
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@Eddie are you really telling me that greeting customers is something that staff has to be trainend in, because in Portugal it's not normal to greet each other? Again, why make an excuse for bad service/attitude?


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(@brteacher)
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So, I flew this flight last month in economy and thought it was fine. Really, at under five hours, it's shorter than a transcon, and the quality and service I got were at least as good as I'd get on AA or UA. I really disliked flying HNL-IAH in United economy, but that's over seven hours, and that's been my limit for coach flights since.


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(@Dimitri)
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@Peter
Ford & Lucky are husbands. Obviously. Look for other blog posts one here, by ford, or by them together.


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(@Cascadia)
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I flew this airline to Ponta Delgado in 2010 just when the Icelandic volcano erupted and its ash cloud shut down most North Atlantic air traffic for about a week. Consequently we were stuck there for several days. Azores Airline and the people in Ponta Delgado were great. The airline immediately contacted us and had us stay in our hotel for the duration (no problem since no one was traveling into the Azores either). They took care of the hotel bill and the meals we had in the hotel without us having to request it. It was just terrific service. See if you can get that from any US airline when a weather or other natural disaster event occurs.


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(@Rita Baumann)
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@Cascadia, the airline you flew with in 2010 does not exist anymore. The update to my previous comment, which happened 3.5 months ago:
NO, SATA never returned our emails or phone calls about the 3 nights of cancelled flights in Boston in July. No, SATA did not reimburse us for the flights that never happened, but our (American) credit card did.
Yes, SATA did send us a $200 check to pay for the 3rd night hotel stay due to non-existent flight. However, they got my name wrong. Mrs. Mendonca is probably still waiting for a check.
We also lost money from a hotel in Terceira, and in fees from our travel agent (Portugal.Com). This trip was a disaster, and you can bet we learned to read reviews more carefully. Just say NO to SATA (which is now calling itself Azores Airlines to distance itself from all the complaints. )


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(@HW from NY)
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Flew Azores Airlines BOS-TER-LIS Boston to Lisbon (via Terceira) in June 2018. Equipment was an A330 that had not aged well, although I liked the whale art on the side of the plane.

First row seats on either window seat of the plane were rough -- they could not recline, although I eventually got mine to. The flight attendant came, fussed a bit with the controls underneath the thin seat cushion, and then became audibly and visibly irritated with me as I tried my hand at them myself, stating that there was no use - she'd file a report but I'd have to deal with it. BUT, I eventually figured out that my removing the table in the armrest I could eventually get the controls to respond. Later, after the layover in TER, maintenance had come to adjust the seat to work again. But it was a pretty rough introduction to the otherwise nearly-lie-flat seats in First/Business Class on Azores Airlines A330 (old-school planes). The entertainment unit didn't work (I don't think any of them did). The meals were forgettable.

Boarding was also unusual, although rational -- First Class boarded last, because they were ostensibly boarding back to front. All of us looked around and shrugged -- certainly you could go line up, but they called children/assistance, then started boarding the entire plane back to front. Usually most larger airlines board children/assistance, First/Highest Elite Status, Elite Status, and then so forth.

It would've been tolerable if it hadn't been for the surly flight attendant (they switched her up by the way so I wouldn't have to deal with her for the rest of either of the legs of the flight) who insisted I could do nothing about the seat. Thankfully I was able to recline the seat and get about an hour of sleep in during the red-eye portion.


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(@Robert)
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Santa/Azores is owned by its employee union, which ditrectly explains the lousy service, airline performance and general ineptitude.

I've flown this flight many times as we have family in Sao Miguel, Azores.

The only good thing about this airline is that you end up in the beautful Azores. Maybe. Sometimes.

I've got more horror stories about this airline than there is room to write.


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(@Patricia)
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I agree with all the negative comments. Staff are uninterested and often simply rude. The seats in business class are as described: uncomfortable, with the seat bar digging painfully into your legs and the footrest designed for someone with VERY long legs - I couldn't reach it. I would never pay even the $250 for last-minute business class - it's no better than their economy, which is an endurance test.
Still, you can deal with rude, inattentive service and physical discomfort for 4.5 hours to get direct to the Azores. TAP is better but involves a layover in Lisbon - fine if you have time for it and wish to do so, otherwise a PITA.


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