Review: Air Canada Premium Rouge 767 Tampa To Toronto

Ben, which is best premium economy transatlantic product out there?

Where did they possibly find Canadians who would yell at anyone under any circumstances?

"I'll be the first to admit that I have horrible taste in movies, so perhaps it was actually awful..."

Anything starring Meryl Streep is going to be a winner for me. She can somehow turn a movie version of a septic tank into a garden of roses.

It´s something I`m definately missing as well. Where are trip reports for premium economies?

You posted a picture of a cup of water?

I think you have written a script to write these reviews, haven't you?

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Being a frequent AC traveller, I am of the opinion that Rouge economy is horrible. There are no smaller seat or less leg room out there. Often they change your already booked AC flight to a Rouge flight and we Canadians call it "getting Rouged". The food in AC in general is pretty good. They even serve a hot snack meal on hour long flights. The chicken pot pie is delish!

I agree with LisaL... Rouge economy is dreadful and needs to be avoided at all costs. Premium Rouge is also dreadful and needs to be avoided at all costs. I can't believe they fly these old boats to Europe...

I like the crew uniform (especially the John Fluevog shoes) if that counts for anything.

Wow. This is better than domestic first-class within the United States on Delta, American and United on all but the premium N.Y. to Los Angeles/San Francisco routes. I'm impressed.

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I dislike Air Canada Rouge and only use as a last resort. Find there staff are rude and uncaring. Seats are terrible and just all around just disorganized and they don't care. I fly other carriers same pricing same destination...as I said prior only in a pinch.

Flew Rouge YYZ to ATH last summer. Economy is comparable to most US carriers, with a few exceptions:

1) Pitch was slightly smaller (not much difference)
2) Food A LOT BETTER (US airlines food is the pits)
3) Crew was superb (friendly and efficient)
4) I *LOVE* the 767 econ vs. the truly dreadful 777. It is 2-3-2 so minimal chance of getting a middle seat and wonderful window seats for solo travelers (I can easily climb over 1 PAX but not 2). Did I say how much I hate the 777?

I'd fly them again...

Random question: why seemingly only in North America are departure/arrival times shown to the minute (12:29AM) rather than rounded to five minutes (12:30AM) as is the case in Europe and Asia?

I have trouble imagining even at the best of times that airlines could hit the exact minute for a departure, or especially, an arrival.

My family of 4 flew from YVR to Dublin last summer on Air Canada Rogue. The fare was at least $200USD less per person than flying out from Seattle where we live. The flight itself is ok, though the plane IS old. But it is Direct, anything I can do to avoid a transfer on the East Coast in the summer is a win. Also, saving 20% on the flight is not bad.

Cup of water really?

Learn to edit

To the people whinging about the cup of water, generally in most trip reports there is an image of the pre-departure beverage. Most times it is a glass of champagne or something. In this case the water illustrates an important point; how shit this airline is.

@credit you never fail to crawl out of your hole to make pathetic comments lol

@FNT Delta Diamond
Do you have any contact info, FT perhaps? I'm based out of MBS, sometimes traveling out of FNT or DTW and would love to just reach out 🙂

@lucky
Didn't see it in this post, but seem to see it time to time. I would really watch out on using "instagram" filters. It can look at times really tacky and unprofessional, especially ones that add a blue-ish hue to the picture. I really love reading your TR and images play a big role. May be just me, but it's just a weird quirk that at times seems out of place. Keep it up!

I'm Canadian and everyone I know who has ever flown Rouge even once says "never again" when they get home, so I have no plans to try it. On the subject of 767's, the mainline AC fleet of 767's is actually the best aircraft to select if you fly economy - it has a decent seat pitch and the configuration is 2 - 3 - 2, meaning aisle seat in the center section is where you want to be. BTW the flight attendants on Rouge are "younger and not as polished" because they're paid a lot less that mainline AC crews.

My wife and daughter flew Rouge economy from PSP to YVR, they said they had lots of room compared to 737 or A320 that other airlines would use on the route. I have flown in these planes in their previous guise as AC flights to Beijing and São Paulo, some in this configuration and others with the old lie flat seats. Probably getting a little long in the tooth.

Ahh TIA, I love and hate that place. Love it cause it was the first airport I ever went to and traveled from and hate it because now when I travel all the flights I take leave a 5am.

I'm not a fan of rouge and was surprised to read such a positive review. The planes are old and the seats are not so great (in size or upkeep). The ipads are also a disappointment. But otherwise, the food and service is similar to the old business class on this route. I flew it last night and we even had the standard ramekin of warm almonds and cashews, rather than the bag of almonds Lucky was given. Rouge is tolerable between Canada and America, but I wouldn't want to take it transatlantic.

@Lucky
Out of curiosity, you have been to many airports. So what do you think about Tampa International Airport. I personally find it good (not just because i lived there). If you would rate it from 1-10, what would you say.

Seriously where do people get off thinking they can yell at flight attendants?
If I came to your work place, locked the door and verbally abused you, I think you would call
security. I can't believe customers who feel such entitlement.
Customers who cause disruption are written up and banned
from the airline and good thing too. Rouge flight attendants go through intense
SAFETY training and deserve respect.
Serving you a drink and something to eat is considered 5% of the job.
If there is an emergency are you really going to care what the flight attendant's makeup looks like?

Ben wrote, "... one of the chipper flight attendants came by to offer pre-departure beverages — I selected a cup of water." He didn't say what the other options were.