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Revealed: Snazzy SAS Airbus A321LR Interiors

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While the airline isn’t making a big deal of it, Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) has today operated its first passenger flight with the Airbus A321LR, which is an exciting new plane for the airline.

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(@Aaron)
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British Airways did it first, having that type of Business Class on a narrow-body plane, no? Granted, they did inherit those planes from BMI, and they don't utilize them all that much, but still.


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So wouldn't that mean BMI did it first?


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(@keesje)
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It seems to me SAS might have specified the 4 abreast Premium Economy class a bit too premium. Passengers might downgrade from Business Class because it's more than acceptable for a 6-7 hour flight. And much cheaper. A kind of 2+3 abreast seating might be a better idea long term.


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This is a beautiful aircraft but the real issue for narrowbody transatlantic operations will come down to economics. The US requires a 3rd pilot when the flight is above 8 hours long. Other countries have slightly different flight lengths to begin the requirement for a 3rd pilot.
Widebody aircraft have the same requirements for a 3rd pilot. Widebodies are more cost efficient because of the extra passengers they can carry; that is why widebodies were created in the first place. There will be some long, thin routes where there are enough local passengers that the higher unit costs can be justified but most transatlantic routes are operated to/from a hub. If a competitor is using widebodies for connecting passengers (and cargo) via another hub, it will be hard for one airline to compete against an airline that has a larger, widebody-based hub. The A321XLR burns less fuel but you only need to look at the 757 compared to widebodies to see how it fared.


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(@Aaron)
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I don’t think BMI ever really used since they introduced those planes at around the same time BA swallowed them up.


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(@Gabriel)
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Hey Ben, we put out a video today with a tour of the SAS A321LR cabin, in case anyone's interested! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWdG3guG0eM


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(@Phillip)
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bmi did indeed do it first!


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(@Willm)
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Or even an Inter Europe business class type setup, so they could vary the cabin size based on demand


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(@Scudder)
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You seem to contradict yourself when mentioning the 757 for transatlantic ops. Airlines deployed those quite successfully on the thinner routes, and have been eager for the replacement the LR/XLR offers.


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There is no contradiction. The 757 amounted to a very low percentage of transatlantic flights even during the 757's prime. Most 757 transatlantic flights per operated either by US legacy carriers and Euro leisure carriers and even among them, the 757 was not a majority of flights.
Not to go too far into the weeds but the reason the A321XLR exists and will sell is because there is no in-production small widebody , which some call the Middle of the Market. Given that Airbus is cleaning Boeing's clock even in the non-transoceanic large narrowbody segment (A321NEO vs B737-MAX9 and 10), Boeing has no choice to kick it up in terms of their strategic plans for new models. The B787-8 and A338 are too heavy and are not cost competitive even with old 767s or new A321s. Delta and United are holding onto their 767s as long as they can with former saying it will use its 757s and 767s as flex capacity into the end of the decade.
If Airbus stretches the A321 which would require a new wing or either Airbus or Boeing build a new true MoM aircraft, the A321 will probably fade in its transatlantic role. The good part of the A321XLR is that it can be economically placed on shorter routes and still function quite well operationally and economically.


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 Olav
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SAS needs to put some of these long-legged planes on a nonstop to Seattle. There are currently NO nonstops from Seattle to anywhere in Scandinavia. SAS used to fly nonstop SEA to CPH but ended that back in 2009. That route was very popular back then, and the Seattle (and Vancouver and Portland) metro areas' populations have boomed since then...and yet there is zero competition to Scandinavia across this region (Norwegian was highly popular before they fell apart). Plus, the US Northwest region has a huge Scandinavian population, so LOTS of family connections. Honestly, I'm shocked there are no nonstops between SEA and ANY Scandinavian capitols, it's a market gap that makes no sense. SAS really should step in and take advantage of the opportunity as they take more deliveries of these efficient long-range planes.


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(@Victoria)
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I must be missing something. How is this “snazzy”?


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(@tipsyinmadras)
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Lack of a mid-cabin bathroom makes this decidedly less snazzy


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(@Dick Bupkiss)
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The "throne" seats are snazzy.


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 MAD
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bmi ordered them but never actually got to install them on any aircraft as they had gone bankrupt by the time the seats were delivered.
BA installed them on those former bmi A321s


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(@Jesper)
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These PY seats are more or less equivalent of what SK already offer on the A350. So just offering a reasonable similarity in the classes compared to what is already on offer on the widebodies.


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(@Brianair 737)
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I find it fascinating how you have this obsession with using the word “snazzy” to describe the A321LR. And not in a bad way at all. First you mentioned something about JetBlue having a snazzy ultraviolet cleaning system (and they operate the A321LR). Next, you described TAP’s new A321LR interiors as snazzy. And here you describe SAS in the same way. I feel like I might be missing something else. I’m curious to see which one you think is the most “snazzy” of them all!


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(@Pascal Saunier)
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Both premium classes look great. Seats look confortable unlike airfrance's premium economy . Reminds me the 757 I flew on united between Hamburg and newark a few years back.


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(@Jayson)
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Icelandair provides nonstop service from Seattle to KEF with excellent connections to Scandinavian capitals. As an Icelandic American living in King County Washington, I take offense that you are so specific that there are NO nonstop flights from Seattle to ANY Scandinavian capitals. Iceland is a part of Scandinavia.


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(@Sebastian)
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Iceland is not part of Scandinavia. It is a Nordic country though. But Nordic does not equal Scandinavian.


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(@Brian Ross)
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Jayson, Iceland is not part of Scandinavia, at least how the Scandinavians use the term.


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(@Jerry)
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Considering what the United States of America airlines are offering on the A321 long range aircraft, Scandinavian hit it on the head with this one. They will do well and make some money on this airplane


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 Mads
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Technically Iceland isn't part of Scandinavia but the Nordics.. 😉

But you're right - Iceland air provides a really good connection to SEA.


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(@Nadine)
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Not an expert but narrow bodies don’t have the accessible bathroom that my wheelchair bound daughter needs. I can’t believe this plane is scheduled to fly from US to CPH with less than stellar toilets (especially ADA).


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