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Plane Takes Off From Washington Dulles, Lands On Road

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Fortunately there were no injuries, but it’s not every day that an airliner lands on a road a couple of minutes after taking off. I first wrote about this yesterday, but wanted to take another look at the topic, since air traffic control audio has been released from the incident.

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(@Corey)
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Pilot here - one of the things drilled into you from practically day one of lessons is that if you have an engine failure on takeoff (in a single-engine plane), do not try to turn around and land on the runway behind you. You lose way more altitude gliding through a 180-degree turn than you think. These pilots did the right thing by landing on the nearest surface ahead of them. Also, the bent propellor blade is almost certainly post-impact.


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 Matt
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Not something I want to read as I’m on the ground at Dulles pulling up to takeoff LOL.


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Diamond
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From whence does Southern Airways Express depart (and arrive, for that matter), the A gates?


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Oops, meant to say Z gates.


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(@profan)
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On the flight path image, does ut look like they were turning around twice? Along hwy 606


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 Luke
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How did this not cause car accidents on whats a busy highway!


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(@FAA Pilot)
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Ben,

Returning to airport immediately after an engine failure at low altitude is called the impossible turn. AOPA did an experiment 2 years back to demonstrate that off-field emergency landing is almost always more survivable than attempting to return to field. The experiment is documented here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVFKq3QqXo


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(@Dtt123)
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Southern should be out of business next week given their Shady practices


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(@Hector)
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Southern just announced service to IPT here in PA starting in May - American abandoned us in 2021. This doesn't instill a lot of confidence, but we'll see what NTSB finds.


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(@Takhliq Khan)
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It was snowing here earlier. Schools and local governments were closed so very light traffic.


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They depart from the "H" gates. The waiting area is basically the other side of the central checkpoint/Capital One lounge from the Z gates (main terminal, west side). These were built for planes on hardstand using mobile lounges for departure. Southern parks parallel to the main terminal building on that side and has a shuttle bus.


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(@Pbjclimbing)
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Have that flight scheduled next month to follow up Emirates F…


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(@FlyerDon)
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I wonder if the pilot is as old as the airplane?


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"Whence departs Southern Airways Express?"

"Whence" means "From where".


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(@scotts)
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Same, my instructor used to say "we lose an engine on take off, we're going straight ahead"


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(@Goforride)
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She sounded like she knew what she was doing from the brief radio clip.


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"They depart from the "H" gates."

Thank you, NedsKid!


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 Lee
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To piggyback on Corey and FAA Pilot, if you ask any commercial pilot what they do during the first minute after takeoff, the answer will be "nothing." Absent engine-out or catastrophic failure, they will only take action after that first minute. This much we know: 1) snowing and potentially icing conditions, 2) overflown driver heard the roar of the engine/prop, 3) pilot sounded "composed" on radio. Let the investigation ensue.


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(@FlyerDon)
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I go out of LNS a lot. Southern’s pilots are, for the most part, young pilots building time so they can eventually get to the majors. For most it’s their first job after flight instructing. The Caravan is a great airplane that comes with a rock solid engine (PT6). It will be very important to learn what brought the airplane down. I agree with you that the pilot made a great off field landing. Let’s find out what forced her to do it.


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(@rmkilc)
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Ironically, the guy talking in that video, Richard McSpadden Jr., AOPA Senior Vice President, died in a plane crash about 3 months ago.


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