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Pakistan Airlines Unbanned From European Union, Makes Viral Return

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Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) has finally made its return to the European Union, over four years after the airline was banned. The company is certainly making headlines for its return, but not for the reason you’d expect…

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 Ace
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How could you possibly have an article about a PIA ad with a plane flying at a prominent structure without referencing their pre-9/11 ad featuring an oncoming plane reflected in the WTC.

Hard not to think the designer knew what they were doing.


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@ Ace -- Good point, just added that to the post, thanks!


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(@Throwawayname)
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To me it looks like the pilots spotted the Tower at the last second, have turned left in order to avoid crashing, and will just about get away with it.

I think it they did want it to go viral.


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(@GUWonder)
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Will they return to LHR next?

Or will it be CDG, then FCO or maybe OSL again?


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(@GUWonder)
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Maybe someone can ask KSM if he has seen the 1979 advertisement. I doubt if it was ever seen by him then.

That ad in 1979 or around then wasn’t the only add in the 1970s and early 1980s with an airline showing a plane by the WTC.


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(@GUWonder)
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I remember a KLM also had a WTC ad with a plane. But the real ad taking a bite out of the WTC twin towers was the one where Cookie Monster munches the top of the WTC towers.


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(@D3kingg)
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Ben please do some fact checking before you post. That 1979 ad is obviously fake when the first commercial Boeing 747 wasn’t delivered until 1980. Were you around in 1979 ? What do you think they were thinking ? Pakistanis are good people. Not a good article.


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Correction 1970. But still racist undertone to this article


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 Ace
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Racist? What?

Literally just pointing out a relevant item from PIA’s history (and mentioning it was obviously before the terror attack). It’s not like it’s insinuating any actual connection to 9/11.


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(@Shaheed Ellington)
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Sorry, PIA – I'll stick to my "grounded" plans, thanks.


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(@D3kingg)
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It’s not welcoming nor inviting neither.


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Diamond
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I was worried about incoming missles from Putin now we’ve got PIA projectiles flying about!….Great


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(@Eskimo)
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Let's see how far Western racism and phobia goes.


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(@Mason)
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Hypocrisy.


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Diamond
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PIA leased there slots to other airlines so it will be some time for the slot exchange returns.


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(@NateNate)
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“ This reminds me…” should be “@Ace reminded me…”


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(@GUWonder)
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Someone wanting to crash a commercial plane into a building on the ground? It was an idea that existed long before 9/11. It was back when sleazy Henry Kissinger was backing Pinochet to knock Allende out of power in Chile. And guess what day it was that Pinochet officially took power in Chile? September 11.

Pinochet had a real thing for planes — including supporting the dropping of political prisoners out of planes.


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(@GUWonder)
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I presume that the biggest population of Pakistani-origin people outside of Asia is still to be found in the UK. But the numbers in some EU countries seem to have risen a lot and been narrowing the gap over the last 15-20 years.


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(@GUWonder)
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It seems like the US may have passed up even the UK at this point.


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(@Mason)
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@GUWonder

Don't be surprised.
Ace is following the norm of this community.

OMAAT audience claim themselves to be open minded and liberal, but they'd go full scale aggressive if any Islamic existence does anything even slighty controversial.
Pure hypocrisy.


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(@GUWonder)
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Canada may not be that far behind the UK.


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Nope, as UK is still at 3x US and 4x Canada.

Interesting.

But PIA can’t really compete well against the GCC3 and TK. So the GCC3 and TK will act as a lid on the ability of PIA to bounce back.


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(@GUWonder)
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After 9/11, I saw how pseudo-liberal and pseudo-tolerant even so many “progressives” and “libertarians” were when it came to our Muslim compatriots. But it wasn’t a surprise to me. A scared people often are so scared that there is weak adherence (or no consistent adherence) to values when it comes to “the other”.

Muslims have been part of America since even before there was a United States and ever since. Nothing “other” about our Muslim compatriots.


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Eskimo, I am in town on Tuesday, 14th and Wednesday, 15th of January, staying at the Fairmont, DC …. treat you to a cocktail?
We can chat about “Western racism”, however, phobias might be more to your taste.
Should be fun, yes?


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 GH
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PIA is still banned in the UK which is no longer part of the EU


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 Alif
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"Our Muslim compatriots," over 72% of whom (even in "moderate" countries like Jordan and Morocco) think that homosexuality should be illegal and punished with imprisonment, and the same for sex out of wedlock.


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Gold
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This is what that is out there. You can decide for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_state-sponsored_terrorism


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 Maui
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Some serious irony here telling someone to fact check before posting. Thanks for the good laugh today.


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Diamond
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Did anything ever come out of the fake pilot license claims? I imagine the EU regulators must have pored over thousands and thousands of pages of documents before changing their minds.


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 Maui
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Ironically, Pakistans ties to terrorism date back to 1979 during the Soviet-Afghan war…


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(@GUWonder)
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Unless those Jordanians and Moroccans are US citizens, they aren’t “our Muslim compatriots” for me.

Go bash on foreigners as much as you wish — it seems so you — but I’ll defend my Muslim compatriots against your Islamophobic bigotry too.


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(@D3Kingg)
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You’re a racist.


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(@Joshua K.)
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Boeing introduced the 747 to commercial service in 1970, not 1980.


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(@GUWonder)
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It’s not ironic. The US and allied strategy was to fight “the godless Soviets” using religiously-motivated fighters. The US & Saudis (along with various other US allies) made Pakistan ground zero for staging the “green belt” “holy war” against the “godless Soviets”, and Pakistan’s military dictator was a useful idiot in making his country into a religiously perverted cesspool to do the US and Saudi’s bidding against the Soviets.


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 Maui
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The irony is this began in the incorrectly referenced year of the 747 debut by the original commenter.


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