As I’ve already written about, the new Frankfurt Airport (FRA) Terminal 3 is starting its phased opening, which is an exciting development for an otherwise drab airport. The first lounge in the new terminal has just been unveiled. Despite it being described as a ”flagship” facility, I wouldn’t get too excited.
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Nice. FRA T3 looks awesome. Can't wait for new T1, 6/7 at JFK, starting to open later this year, too (officially, complete 2030), which is impressive since that's well under the 10+ years it took FRA.
Definitely a downgrade for MEA passengers, as in the past they had access to the Air Canada lounge when the airline was flying out of Terminal 1.
Anyone else feel like this lounge is pretty small? I don't know the timing of the Skyteam flights and how spaced out they are but I feel like a lounge with 125 max passengers may have some times of overlap where they would exceed that, no?
Agreed. Delta alone has three daily A330s departing within an hour. That's 102 Delta One seats... plus Elites in the back.
Delta passengers are used to waiting in line for a lounge so it shouldnt be an issue.
As a matter of comparison, the One World business class lounge at LAX is north of 40,000 square feet. Plus the AA lounges in T4 (not too far of a walk).
what is your point?
the Delta One lounge at JFK is about 40k SF also.
now tell us the size of the oneworld lounge at FRA and the number of AA flights there while you are at it.
Nobody is expecting a 40,000 square feet oneworld lounge at FRA. In fact, AA is by far the weakest of the US3 there, and BA is down to three flights a day. Other than QR, it feels like most of oneworld has really given up on Germany.
Why bring oneworld and AA into this unless the point is to deflect and divert the conversation away to something else?
American set the standard so low with the term "Flagship".
Anything with that term doesn't set any positive expectations.
Tim Dunn used to defend DTW and it's 2 showers with some fluff I don't remember because it has nothing to do with the pathetic number of showers available.
Then there's MSP the domestic hub that is pathetic for international flights.
Alliance lounges are generally quite unimpressive in my opinion.
Compared to the newer business class lounges that have come about, the Oneworld, SkyTeam, and Star Alliance lounges seem average at best. Average food/drink usually dished out as buffet slop.
given the ongoing EES drama, it seems that not many people will be able to actually make it there anyway
There are rumours that there will not be a oneworld lounge or one hosted by a oneworld airline, because FRAPORT are charging more than double on ground rent compared to terminal 2. While negotiations are ongoing, likely oneworld will use some generic lounge
I think you are being a bit harsh in your comments here. It is important to recognize that Skyteam is not a dominant airline at FRA airport and therefore you can't expect them to invest in a lounge that will be one of their best and/or you there won't be a lounge that compares to LH.
Nice. FRA T3 looks awesome. Can't wait for new T1, 6/7 at JFK, starting to open later this year, too (officially, complete 2030), which is impressive since that's well under the 10+ years it took FRA.
Definitely a downgrade for MEA passengers, as in the past they had access to the Air Canada lounge when the airline was flying out of Terminal 1.
Anyone else feel like this lounge is pretty small? I don't know the timing of the Skyteam flights and how spaced out they are but I feel like a lounge with 125 max passengers may have some times of overlap where they would exceed that, no?
Agreed. Delta alone has three daily A330s departing within an hour. That's 102 Delta One seats... plus Elites in the back.
As a matter of comparison, the One World business class lounge at LAX is north of 40,000 square feet. Plus the AA lounges in T4 (not too far of a walk).
what is your point?
the Delta One lounge at JFK is about 40k SF also.
now tell us the size of the oneworld lounge at FRA and the number of AA flights there while you are at it.
Nobody is expecting a 40,000 square feet oneworld lounge at FRA. In fact, AA is by far the weakest of the US3 there, and BA is down to three flights a day. Other than QR, it feels like most of oneworld has really given up on Germany.
Why bring oneworld and AA into this unless the point is to deflect and divert the conversation away to something else?
Oh wow, 2 showers
Tim Dunn used to defend DTW and it's 2 showers with some fluff I don't remember because it has nothing to do with the pathetic number of showers available.
Then there's MSP the domestic hub that is pathetic for international flights.
Better than the awful Lufthansa lounges
This is probably why AMEX is cutting lounge access to LH lounges.
American set the standard so low with the term "Flagship".
Anything with that term doesn't set any positive expectations.
Alliance lounges are generally quite unimpressive in my opinion.
Compared to the newer business class lounges that have come about, the Oneworld, SkyTeam, and Star Alliance lounges seem average at best. Average food/drink usually dished out as buffet slop.
Last image: no USB power outlets?
given the ongoing EES drama, it seems that not many people will be able to actually make it there anyway
There are rumours that there will not be a oneworld lounge or one hosted by a oneworld airline, because FRAPORT are charging more than double on ground rent compared to terminal 2. While negotiations are ongoing, likely oneworld will use some generic lounge
I think you are being a bit harsh in your comments here. It is important to recognize that Skyteam is not a dominant airline at FRA airport and therefore you can't expect them to invest in a lounge that will be one of their best and/or you there won't be a lounge that compares to LH.