LOT Polish Airlines Passenger Urinates In Galley, Gets Lifetime Ban

I suppose airlines could try ordering planes with more than the absolute minimum possible number of lavs to reduce waits on long haul flights?

This is stupid Ben

Or people could use the bathroom before boarding and perhaps have a little foresight about when they might need to relieve themselves, rather than the absolute last minute?

Most functioning adults completed potty training when they were 3 or 4 yr old.

Could be dementia

A similar thing happened in my dorm in college. One person kind of sleep walked and thought they were in the bathroom, urinating on a chair. He didn't remember it the next day. In the next month, three other people did the same thing. I bet this guy was previously asleep, drunk, and not really awake when he did it. He heard about the India air incident and his subconscious somehow gave him permission.

Still not ok.

Sounds like this was 90 minutes before landing. This is generally when there's a huge rush of pax heading to the bathrooms as it's when the cabin lights come on and breakfast service starts waking everyone up. Not making an excuse, just noting that going to the bathroom before the flight would have been 5 or so hours before the incident (works for me, but I'm part camel) and also at a time when the lavs are most busy.

32 oz Gatorade bottles work in a pinch for ~half of the population. Small cost of investment and doesn't weigh much. Jeff Pesos approved.

I’m waiting for this to happen in United’s Premium Plus. You’re supposed to use the lav in your ticketed cabin; however, Premium Plus doesn’t have lavatories. So, the only place for Premium Plus passengers to go might be in the aisle.

Perhaps there’s a reason why people refer to Premium Plus as PP?

I bet this might be an Ambien situation. A dear friend of mine, the late Owen Beddall, wrote a book, "Confessions of a Qantas Flight Attendant" which chronicled some such events involving Australia's version called Stilnox. We had many laughs about people losing their dignity while on Ambien. Of course this example is gross and unacceptable.

Taking off clothes inappropriately, and urinating in the wrong place(s), are common signs/symptoms of dementia, where the confusion can be so great that the sufferer has no idea where a restroom is, even if a toilet is 2 meters away from the individual.

I am the only one who sees this as an alcohol problem? Hard core alcoholics drink before boarding and drink during the flight. There might be some other drugs on board as well but I’ve seen plenty of crazy drunks in Coach over my decades of flying.

That’s true and happens more often than people realise. They often believe they were intoxicated. If however, LOT has blacklisted the passenger he probably was “ misbehaving”. However, how does anyone know what happened to him afterwards? Where’s the official statement from LOT? As it’s a breach of privacy to discuss details.

To add, it’s not just men. Women have done this. Recently on a Vistara flight.

People seem to get pissy about this sort of thing for some reason.

Thats what came to my mind as well, being a retired F/A as well as Registered Nurse. I think there is more going on here than alcohol.

At no point did there were reports of alcohol or the person being intoxicated.

@Brad-

A huge tell was this: “… and the passenger became more cooperative after relieving himself.”

That’s 100% in-line with a dementia episode. The patient is agitated, is unable to articulate what they need (often due due to some level of aphasia), and once they are relieved, become compliant or docile.

No matter what the circumstance, I hope this individual has someone to help him.

I was on a nearly filled LOT 787 from Miami to Warsaw in Sep 2022 and there were ample bathrooms aboard. The cabin crew was very nice, most cordial, and helpful I had seen in a long time.

During COVID lockdown, people at home can use the toilet whenever they need to. We humans have lost the art and skill of holding urination until we find a toilet. Now we are allowed to go out again and we haven't relearned this important art. With reinforcement, like this case, we will evolve and relearn this art.

Eskimo - Several reports say he was drunk, he even admitted it.

Agree. A friend of mine operates a theater. The plays are usually about 2 hours long, with a break around the middle. And he confirms that now, after pandemia, people can no longer hold urination for an hour or so (until the break or the end of the performance, respectively).

Where's the report?

All I can find is the translation of this tweet. We all should have learned from @realDonaldTrump or @elonmusk that one testimony from Twitter isn't facts.

As a 40 year purser/flight attendant I would attribute this to mixing Ambien with alcohol. We have seen many similar incidents around sleep medications. Passengers awaken totally disoriented and behaving strangely.