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How Much Compensation Does Frontier Give For A 5 Hour Delay?

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My recent Frontier flight from Denver to Philadelphia ended up being delayed after the pilot called in sick. First it was delayed by one hour, then three, and then five, finally taking off at 6:30 AM in the morning. You can read the whole story in my review of the flight. I felt a bit…

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(@Brian)
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Had a mechanical delay with WestJet last February which delayed us 18 hours on a 2.5 hour flight. After putting us up in a hotel, plus taxis each way, and food, they gave us $250 each without asking. So $200 seems reasonable to me.


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(@shay peleg)
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If you had the prestige you could have had a fun time. P.s They get delayed pretty often right?


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Diamond
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Travis, I'm really glad you reviewed Frontier, including this follow up.

That said, the reason I'm glad is that I could just never go through a five-hour ordeal in the middle of the night (I'm old), and knowing what you went through stands as a valuable warning to me that I don't think I would fly any of our low-cost carriers, though the big three seem to be continuing to work their way down...

Keep up the great posts!


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(@Wilson)
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Those terms are almost the same as cash compared to what my gf got for a recent spirit cancellation.

Her flight MCO-ATL departing 2230ish was cancelled and she was rebooked the next morning for a 630am departure. She was given a $100 Spirit voucher which must be ticketed within 60 days, but is only good towards the fare component of the cost. No taxes/fees/their BS fuel surcharge.

Fortunately, she was actually planning on walking away from this ticket (paid $35 one-way) as her plans had changed and we were able to get a refund and the voucher.


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(@Tanya)
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I have the voucher from Frontier as well and due to so many travel plans together with their restrictions and travel window, I am afraid I will not be able to use it. Anyone had any luck with expending the voucher or what other options could I have?


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Diamond
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Yes yes.. I love these reviews as I'm much more likely fly with Frontier, Sprint, Delta, etc than first class suite on Ethiad.


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(@Gabriel)
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Certainly a YMMV situation.

My sister and brother in law flew them a few years ago.

They were IDB'd and not rebooked for two days. Return flight cancelled inadvertently which took two hours to fix over the phone.

They were not given IDB compensation, as Frontier claimed a mechanical problem. $50 voucher for each of them.

Repeated attempts to contact their customer service after the fact only got them their outbound segments refunded.


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 Rob
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I'm a bit perplexed as to why you see this as such a wonderful customer service experience. After you got the $100 voucher email, you replied questioning the amount. Tanner replied that there had been "some confusion", about the amount to be offered. That seems like airline speak for, " someone at the airport said $200 but we'll try to get away with $100." Then he closed by basically admitting...we got caught...we'll give you the $200, but, if you don't get it write back. Of course they are hoping you will forget about it when they "forget" to send the additional voucher. When the second voucher failed to arrive, as Tanner predicted, you followed up and forced Frontier to honor their commitment. This hardly seems like 5* service.


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 rjb
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While it is nice that they replied quickly, that is not the real issue in my mind. You paid for transportation on a certain day. Frontier did not provide it and it was 100% their fault. no hurricanes, blizzards or locusts involved. They are just too cheap to have any redundancy or interline agreements. It was a cheap ticket? Great but tickets are not always cheap on LCC's. You were delayed in an airport terminal overnight. It's just not acceptable to get to use public facilities (airports, terminals, ATC, etc.) and fail to deliver. I hope that someday the USA can move to a cash compensation system akin to EU 261. 3 hour delay = 300 euro cash, 6 hour delay = 600 euro. (of course here it would be US$) If discount airlines like Frontier don't want to pay up, they can always invest in redundancy or interline pax to United/Delta/AA, etc. if they wanted to. Since there are no consequences other than handing out worthless vouchers that they know won't be redeemed , service will continue to stink.


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(@TEX277)
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Yes $200 is fair for a regular 5hr delay. However, I'd understand that, given the hour of the day, passengers would feel that figure to be poor value.


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Rob -- I didn't say it was 5 star service. But I guess I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one, instead of assuming they are playing games. I think there was some genuine confusion over what the comp would be. Plus, how often does any airline send ANY comp proactively to everyone on the plane? Most people aren't going to write in like us. So I commend them for that.


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rjb -- I agree about interline agreements. And I normally tend to avoid LCC's because of the lack of interline agreements.

But even if they had an interline agreement with United, what good would it have done in this case? The next flight to PHL on any other carrier would have been American at 7 AM. And we left at 6:30 AM. So in this case, what difference would it have made?


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 tda
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If they actually gave you $200, I'd say fine. However, there are far too many restrictions on the voucher. Between the 90 day limit, one time use, and no "paid options" provisions, it's basically garbage.


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Diamond
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...F9's not an airline to be loyal to...there's no benefit in that.

But it's not a punishment like Allegiant or Spirit, so I regularly check their fares. As long as it's a direct flight and fairly priced, I'll choose them every time over the sh*t show that's UA from DEN. If I'm going to be abused by an airline, at least I'd like to save a buck or two.


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(@Rufus)
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I am happy to see they took off at 6:30 AM in the morning. "finally taking off at 6:30 AM in the morning." It always ruins my day when they take off at 6:30 am and it is in the evening.


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(@Claus)
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As a point of comparison: In the EU you would have been legally entitled to a 400 EUR cash compensation (no voucher).


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(@James)
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Lol.... it may seem a bad service if you compare it with european or asian full service airline. But this is american airlines, american standard, added that it was LCC. That was Travis meant excellent customer service experience.

And since he compare it mainly with United, I think he somewhat felt relieved no one being beat up and dragged by the crew even tough they slept at the airport....


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 Pete
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Had a delay on our LAX CDG flight on AF missing our connection. It was 9 hours as all the other connection flights were ovb. I needed to claim this, but they offer 800 eur voucher or 600 eur cash. After 6 weeks, I have received my 800 eur voucher, enough for a premium eco roundtrip from eu to lax with just 88 eur overpayment. That I consider fair 🙂


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 Dan
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"On one hand, I value my time at more than $40 per hour"

People tend to overvalue their free time. Probably more like $10 per hour in your case or maybe less.


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(@Martin)
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A voucher means I have to fly with them again.

I'd rather be reimbursed for out of pocket expenses, and have a nice meal and some wine, on their dime


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(@Corey Sacken)
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Dan that's a bit ridiculous to suggest. Free time is sure as hell not worth minimum wage. $40 might be high for some, but there is no way you can tell me free time for most is worth anywhere near $10. For instance my last job I had 33 days vacation (all one bucket). I easily would have paid 3k for 10 more days. That's $37.50 per hour at what I value it at, slightly higher than my salary but lower than my wife's.


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(@Eberhardt)
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Last summer I had a flight cancelled by Jetblue.
They paid absolutely nothing. Not even the additional night we had to stay in Buffalo. It was ridiculous, at least they re-booked us on the next morning flight.


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(@Emirates4Ever)
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Actually, for an airline like Frontier, $200 is being magnanimous...


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 Dan
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Hi Corey,

No one is going to pay you $37.50 an hour to sleep, or work in your case, so that sounds extremely high to me. You are free to overvalue or overpay for your free time yourself though, most people do.


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(@Bhindar)
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@Corey
What company gives 33 days vacation per year (paid)? That would be rare in the US but perhaps not in the EU


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 Zach
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.... there are tons of people who would pay $37.50 an hour to sleep, especially people who travel frequently on business and have all too little good sleep to begin with (and are typically paid pretty well). The fact that you don't value your own sleep that highly is really neither here nor there.


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 Ken
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One thing all folks traveling in Europe should keep in mind is EU regulations apply to US airlines. my wife and I were delayed on United flying home for five hours and while it was not announced during the flight at the end I sent a note to customer service and we were not issued 600 Euros in checks...they also offered us $800 in vouchers. So be sure to know the rules!


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(@Paul Abamonte)
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Seems like Frontier has another pilot sick again from SLC to Atlanta - we were told 30 mins before we were to leave that there would be at least a 4 hr delay until another pilot could travel to SLC to fly the plane . Delay of 4 hrs due to sick pilot - coincidence or standard operating procedure policy for the general public - at least RyanAir tells everyone before they get to the airport or start on their flights .


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(@Caroline)
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My military son was charged for his luggage, delayed 4 hours due to "no crew showing up" and offered absolutely nothing until calling Frontier and requeating to speak with a supervisor. At first they offered $50, than additional $25, and finally $100. He cannot use a voucher since he will not have time off. Nice way to treat Military Personnel Frontier! You just lost this military family. ..but than again its obvious...you don't care!


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(@Carmel sammut)
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Frontier and other airlines should be required to pay people in cash. Not all travelers fly frequently so you are really giving people nothing. Read about the TERRIBLE experiences so many people have, add in the little ones traveling with their parents. An 8 hour delay then no car seats at your destination, an actual reality. Then you get a voucher to fly with them again? Are you shitting me? THAT is not compensation that’s torture. A dog would have more sense.
Airlines need to really be made to feel a little bit of the sting. A voucher to fly again with them is almost laughable.


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(@Michael McGovern)
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There seems to be a work stoppage or disruption by the Frontier pilots. Listen to this story....My daughter received lots of excuses for her 27 hour "delay" over the past 24 hours at Austin waiting to go to PHL. It was so ridiculous, they used every excuse you can imagine. First it was mechanical something or another (probably a lie), then it was the crew is over their hours (probably a lie), then it was "a crew is on their way and will be here soon" (probably a lie), then they boarded the plane (2nd time) 10 hours late from the original scheduled departure, and then told everyone to wait because they can't find the pilot (lie? Maybe true). Then they canceled the flight and made her wait till the next morning, 8 AM departure (which would actually be the same flight the next day, once everybody was at the gate they said that the pilot is running 30 minutes late (probable lie), and then they said there will be a 5 hour delay because the pilot was at Denver by mistake instead of Austin (maybe true). I finally had to make a decision and pay for a last minute flight on Southwest where the pilots actually show up to work.
I researched "Frontier pilots" a bit and discovered that they are complaining about being overworked and stressed out. It seems to me that they warned Frontier of possible consequences. Maybe these are the consequences. Too bad, Frontier will definitely suffer from this. Who would book on an airline with so many excuses and 27 hour delays for no reason, half of the excuses being "lost" or absent pilots?


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 Vk
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@Travis - Please share the email ID that you used to send the email. I need to send them email as well today today's Denver - Tampa delay of 6 hours.


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(@Lindsay beebe)
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Hi Travis. Any chance you can share the name and confirmation number on that reservation? I am trying to get reimbursement for a 6 hour flight. They offered $75 but asked for $200 based on this article but want the info above? Thanks in advance


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(@Kim Brown)
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I recently had my first delay with them. It was 3 hours late, which meant I was in the airport at midnight with two little kids. However, I didn't request anything because I'm lazy and it didn't really matter, plus I figured it's a budget airline it'd be a huge hassle. The next day I received an email with $50 voucher for each of us. I was happy with that, especially since most of the times I use frontier my tickets are less than $50. I was very pleased that they took the initiative to do that without my having to say anything.


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 John
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This adsurd flight delaying bs started when regulations and flight crews salaries where f'd with by the Trump administration. Vote him in again and watch this industry get taken by China.


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(@Justin)
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U.S. carriers need to be forced to compensate in cash, not vouchers. We had a round trip flight from Madison to Tampa and back. The flight down was fine but the return turned into a disaster after a storm rolled through. We could have left well before the storm but Frontier flights were already delayed so we had to wait. We could deal with that. However, the delay just kept getting longer. Eventually we watched the pilots and crew walk away and the flight was cancelled with no explination and they started boarding the next flight. I got on the phone with frontier and kept getting the run-around and lies. First they said all planes at that airport were grounded because of storms and I told them the storm was gone and other airlines were already taking off. Then they said it was just Frontier flights. I told them that I had already watched other Frontier flights take off. Then they said there was a storm on the flight path and couldn't fly that direction. I told them that a direct flight to Mineapolis had just left and that is in an exact line over Madison. It was lie after lie and person after person. I finally talked to soneone in the U.S. (all other people were outsourced) and was told all they could do was give us each $100 vouchers. We were stranded in Tampa with no where to go and 2 small kids. We eventually found a flight on a different airline and what should have been a 3 hour flight turned into a 15 hour ordeal. Frontier is bad, why should we be forced to use them again to take advantage of their "compensation"?


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