Up until 2022, booking a Spirit Big Front Seat secured only the physical seat itself, offering an "unbundled" domestic first-class hardware experience without any soft amenities.
So Frontier is copying the same approach.
Wow OMAAT. Let’s turn something great into a negative mess. As a Diamond F9 member this is great news. The first two rows currently have the middle seat blocked. So this change will give a bigger seat. Upgrades to this seat will be free at the time of check in for some members. Nevertheless I’m happy about the change for a flyer of F9. The bigger seat is a plus to my nonstop options from MCO with my Go Wild Pass.
You seem to be in the wrong place. In all my years reading OMAAT it was clear that this was about aspirational travel. Nobody *aspires* to fly on Frontier, reclining seat or not ...
That's the Spirit!
Reading the headline caused me to spontaneously laugh outloud. Years ago I vowed to not fly Frontier again unless it's an emergency
Slightly off topic, but Frontier's new bid on upgrade "auction" is just plane (pun intended) ridiculous. Can do a full review of that, too? Thanks.
I could see myself paying for "just" a bigger seat and more leg room.
On ANYONE (almost) other than F9.
3 of the most chaotic and uncomfortable flights of my long long life. Yeah, just NO.
And I agree with others who feel that F9 could have done much better.
My last flight with them was LAS-TPA. Antother Nurse and myself (retired advance practice RN) assisted a passenger having a serious medical emergency. The crew did not know where the first aid kit was and had to be asked (loudly) multiple times to take action. We were thanked with a stroopwafel.
You are welcome.
To be fair, if you're chosing Frontier while expecting some kind of premium service, any kind of premium service, you may have misunderstood the brand.
They can probably fill in for Spirit's "infrequent, low-end travelers likely to start a drunken fistfight", though.
Looks more comfortable than AV's and the color palette is better than SQ's new J cabin lol
I flew LAS-ORD-LAS about a couple of years ago on Frontier (my first non-AA/AS flight after hundreds of flights over the decades). The fare, even with paying for exit rows both ways was literally < 1/2 of the price AA (I don't fly on non-OneWorld carriers and UA wasn't cheap either). Since I didn't have any luggage, I felt it was at least worth a try. I'll be honest, it wasn't too bad. Now if I had to check baggage in, multiple flights, etc. then it definitely wouldn't have been worth it.
Given that it’s really just a seat upgrade and not an upgrade in service, I’m surprised they went with a solid divider between cabins. JetBlue isn’t even doing that with BlueFirst.
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of “First Class” Americans deserve. 😂
The same crowd that endlessly whines about European Business Class because “OMG, it’s the same seat as Economy!” — conveniently ignoring the guaranteed empty middle seat, lounge access (yes, even on domestic flights), and generally far superior food and service — now gets a First Class product with a non-reclining seat and not even a complimentary drink.
Apparently, the only thing that matters is THE SEAT. Never mind the overall experience.
Every nation gets the First Class product — and, apparently, the presidents — it deserves. 🤷♂️
Flew F9 RT TPA LAS and NEVER EVER again. And yes, they could have tossed in at least one comp beverage and snack.
Yes, missed opportunity for those good folks that would chose F9.
I have fond memories of the original FL and THAT was a great airline.
It's called Feconomy.
It includes 2 checked bags and a carry-on, but the schedule comment is spot on.
If the seat is pre-reclined like Spirit’s BFS, it’s probably about 70% as upright as a domestic first seat on a carrier like AA. Sucks that you can’t pick the position yourself but it was somewhat reclined. Still way better than the cardboard and aluminum seats in Y.