It looks like we could soon see a new airline launching operations in Australia, and the business model is unlike anything that currently exists in the country. I can’t decide if the idea is brilliant, or if Australia simply doesn’t have a big enough population to make this work.
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Population is largely irrelevant in the conversation in the comparison to Florida when you factor in the difference in driving times. Sydney to Brisbane is easily a 10 hour drive from memory assuming you hit no traffic in Southern Queensland or Sydney (good luck with that) or even within Queensland between Brisbane and Cairns is a 20 hour drive.
I’ll be more interested to see if they target secondary cities like Newcastle and Wollongong and build new travel demand
Every time I see yet another announcement of a new lost-cost airline that will focus on under-served point-to-point flights, all I can think at this point is: yeah, yeah, get in line with everybody else.
For real, though, there can only be but so much untapped "point-to-point" demand, else it would've been claimed already. Whether in Australia, the US, or anywhere else.
Unlike the USA, Australian regional towns are actually very small, In other words, there are very few towns outside of the major cities that could support dedicated service. Newcastle to Geelong may work but the other pickings are slim. The "Avelo" concept requires underserved regional airports with a good size population basin to feed from.
I suspect that two might be the right number of airlines for the Australian market. Rex is an exception in that it mainly services smaller regional centres. Like others here, I have difficulty imagining where the routes are that are not already being served. During the pandemic Qantas, in particular, has added services between the other four states that avoid connections in Sydney and Melbourne. They have also added intra-state services and Qantas branded services on routes that were previously only operated by Jet Star.
Most air traffic in Australia is between state capitals or from them to regional centres. There may be some scope for additional routes to and from the few big non-capital cities from regional centres, but if existing players haven't started them in Dash-8s or Saab 340s, I doubt they would work with a B737 Max.
Of course, given the backing of this venture from an outfit that has the B737s available, they could well be experimenting at what works, with a view to right-sizing the aircraft if it does.
I had that thought too, although that's not their stated aim. Albury, Canberra or Newcastle to Auckland or Wellington too. And Hamilton or Dunedin to Sydney and Melbourne.
would be fun to be on the delivery flight from the Boeing factory to Australia
There are *some* under served city pairs (well not served at all) from Australia’s second tier cities to holiday / leisure type cities and destinations that could work
For example:
Gold Coast - AU’s 6th biggest city and huge tourist hot spot could probably support non stop flights to a few second tier cities that are not served now like Albury, NSW (100,000) launceston, Tasmania (100,000) and perhaps smaller NSW cities like Wagga or Orange
Then Newcastle, NSW (Australia’s 7th largest city - metro pop 500,000+) could probably support jets to say Cairns, QLD, Townsville, QLD, Hamilton Island, QLD, Ballina-Byron Bay, NSW as well as Adelaide, Hobart and Perth.
Canberra the capital could
Probably support jets to Ballina - Byron and a few others
Toowoomba, QLD might work with Melbourne, Newcastle and Adelaide
If they used the E jet or A220 they could go into smaller cities too.
But the possible routes do seem a bit limited
Wollongong and Newcastle are completely undeveloped air markets ripe to create demand (if done right)
Newcastle - about a 1.5 hour drive north of Sydney has about 500,000 in its own metro area but tapping into the northern suburbs of Sydney and central coast they could add another 500,000 or so. That would make flights to Adelaide, Perth, Hobart, Canberra from Newcastle make possible sense
Likewise Wollongong- around 350,000 population - but 1 hour south of Sydney. They could tap into southern Sydney population base and have flights to Melbourne, Avalon etc
Avalon, Victoria (near Geelong pop. 250k or so and also close to Melbourne) would be another to offer flights to almost anywhere
So there are a number of point to point airlines in existence in Australia already. They are just not well known. Some examples....
Air North. Air North primarily fly the top end (ie Darwin to Gove or Kununarra) although oddly they do have some direct flights to Melbourne and in pre COVID times to Timor Leste. They are actually a partner airline of Qantas. Air North are well known in the top end of Australia and use EMBRAER planes.
Aviair is another good example which operates scheduled flights within WA along with a number of scenic flights and scheduled FIFO flights within regional WA.
Alliance is another one. The list goes on. They all serve niche areas.
Then there are also a number of charter companies such as King Island Air which obviously flies to King Island.
It will be interesting to see which market they go after.
Jetstar has tried Avalon repeatedly. Other than cheap Gold Coast flights it hasn't really worked. Most Melbournians refuse to fly out at Avalon and the Geelong population isn't big enough by itself.
This will NOT work as I know ever city pair in the country and have done for many decades.
Unsustainable. A/C far too big and too many players in the market.
Fail from the start.
Virgin Australia announced of October 12 that they will begin Gold Coast - Launceston flights in december
I would love to visit all the small towns that would otherwise take too long to get too by road… can’t wait!!!
So Tim Jordan was interviewed on breakfast TV this morning. He said...
"We start small like any business. It is property, you can't suddenly go here is 20 aircraft let's get on with it,'
'So we will be starting with two to three aircraft. Those aircraft are currently in North America. Brand new aircraft and they're heading our way in the first quarter of 2022.'
Expectation is to start flying in Q2 2022 (subject to approvals).
He said that the aim is to open up new markets for leisure travel, not steal from existing markets.
It would be good to fly from Illawarra Airport to Geelong Airport so I can watch Geelong AFL team.
I'm sure it will be a huge success.
Some Drongo’s have spent to much time in Iso and are as thick as bat shit! If you can land a B737 on the runway QF/Jetstar will land an A320 guaranteed.
Avalon was working when Tiger operated out of there because there was competition. When Tiger pulled out so did Jetstar because they could charge more out of Tulla (the original Jetstar was also going to be based out of Avalon solely before moving to Tulla to compete with the then Virgin Blue).
So if Bonza flies out of Avalon (likely) as one of their Vic Hubs (I'm thinking they might fly out of Bendigo as well), then I could see Jetstar increasing flights from there as well. Induced demand is as real on aircraft as it is on freeways.
Is it seriously named 'Bonza'?
It's like a non-Australian looked up buzzfeed for popular Australian slang and picked it.
No one has used that term in Australia for 20+ years.
Toowoomba (Wellcamp Airport- WTB) could benefit from this type of airline, when boarders with New South Wales and Victoria reopen, also international visitors start returning, flights between Toowoomba and Sydney, Toowoomba and Melbourne, Toowoomba and Darwin, also other major regional city's like Mackay and Newcastle will be in demand. We currently have Airnorth and REX servicing Toowoomba (Wellcamp Airport-WTB), Airnorth currently fly e170's between Toowoomba and Melbourne, Toowoomba and Townsville and Toowoomba and Cairns 2 To 3 days a week. REX currently fly Saab 340's between Toowoomba and Brisbane and Toowoomba to South Western and Western Queensland towns. Qantaslink cancelled Dash-8 q400 services between Toowoomba (Wellcamp Airport-WTB) and Sydney in March 2020 at the beginning of the covid 19 pandemic. So a ultra low cost airline would work well for Toowoomba (Wellcamp Airport-WTB) and the region.
@Ben - another interesting ULCC joining the Indian skies from next summer has been introduced - Air Akasa.
I'm a 51 year old Australian. And though I know what the word means and where to use it, I have never ONCE used it in a conversation with another Australian. Maybe when the "baby boomers" were in their formative years, the word might have been used more frequently. But like the word "ripper" which basically means the same thing, it's a word that the majority of Australians, particularly the younger generation, would need to run to Google to find its meaning and when it should be used in a sentence!
Personally, I'd love to see it succeed because it's well documented that Australians love to travel. But I fear you may be right. Australia's population is just too small to sustain any more than around three airline companies. REX, the most recent airline to to break into the Australia's aviation market, is already cutting back on services although in all fairness, much of that may be due to COVID 19 and closed state borders within Australia that have restricted travel by air. So whilst the initial uptake may seem positive as Australians embrace low airfares on a new carrier and book flights accordingly, I fear that that this pattern is unlikely to be maintained. Especially when people realize that after being nickeled and dimed for every ancillary service, the advertised low fares that initially grabbed their attention in the first place, turn out to be the same or an even higher price than that offered by an established, full service airline such as Qantas. And Qantas has a track record of swallowing up low fare carriers that eat into their market share....
I've often thought for years now, that both Wollongong and Newcastle have large enough population basins that remain untapped by the current players in the Australian aviation market ie: Qantas, Virgin and REX. And if an airline was to tap into that market by offering attractive lower fares than those applied on flights that depart from Sydney Airport ,they might find large numbers of people making the trek north or south to take advantage of those cheaper flights. Before you know it, whole new markets would have opened up, markets that weren't there before..
Remember how quick JetStar was able to transform Avalon from a tin shed into an airline terminal. It would take less than 6 months to build a workable terminal in the short term, until a larger facility could be constructed...
Could not agree more with Tim (12 Oct) Illawarra and Newcastle basins would be great areas of promise. Wollongong/Shellharbour airport terminal would not accommodate a 737 as stated by Hayden. Surely this would not be a major infrastructure problem. Of course any airline looks at the bottom line $. Many of the destinations mentioned do not have to be daily services. I would like to add a few more domestic destinations to the mix. Consider,Norfolk Island,Broome,Karratha, Port Hedland. The latter two destination flights would be potentially filled by Pilbara FIFO workers eliminating the current long stopover in Perth in both directions
I remember other airlines trying to get a foothold in Australia and got stymied by Qantas regarding terminal space. Love to see it work but my pessimistic side comes to the fore.
Great to see another airline in the mix. Gold Coast to ROK, MKY, EMD and MOV, I think would think would have good patronage.
Bonza are doing what Allegiant did in USA. Fly from smaller towns to bigger towns or resort destinations. Most of the Bonza flights are 2 to 4 a week, not per day, so not trying to move that many people + they will create new market. When Australians see a fare of AUD$50 (USD$36) to get from A to B, where usually would have to go via C & cost $200, they might just go for the hell of it, especially as we've been in lockdown internationally for almost 2 years.
sunshine coast (MCY) not gold coast(OOL). OOL is a 90 min drive south of Brisbane Int(BNE). MCY is 90 min drive north. Bit like West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Miami in Florida.
they are not competing with qantas. Qantas doesn't fly most of the routes Bonza will. 80% of Bonza routes no nonstop competition & MEL is the only big airport they will be flying to initially.
WTB will have its own international passenger flights soon (RTP). They've already had int charter flights to Asia using Qantas A330.
Mike D you have no idea. No one wants to fly anywhere in Australia via awful & congested SYD & other major airports.
We have just come from the Sunshine Coast to Cairns on Bonza. It is cheap and cheerful. 8kilos of luggage is perfect for a 7 day stay.
We normally would not have chosen Cairns, as we have both had a few days here years ago, and as Qantas and Jetstar are so expensive, (Qantas is also arrogant and rude) we would not have paid for a lot
higher fare with them to go to a place we had been before.
However, we could afford Bonza and we loved the whole process. Plus, the added bonus is that Cairns is now amazing, and there is so much to do and see that is free, and we have spent money on a few special things that we didn't even know were here. We stayed at The Cairns Colonial Club, an amazing place for all ages and we got a great 7 night special, less than a motel rate. So win win for us, for the Sunshine Coast, and for Cairns. Visionaries are people who see what others can't. Well done Jordan and Mrs Jordan, and a big thank you fron 2 aged pensioners who have had their first holiday in 10 years.