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Boeing 737 Crashes In Arabian Sea, Plunges 35,000 Feet In Two Minutes

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Late on Tuesday night, a Boeing 737 crashed into the Arabian Sea. There’s no such thing as a straightforward aviation accident, and the circumstances surrounding this are particularly strange — the pilots reported navigation issues, and moments later the plane start descending rapidly, only to then climb rapidly, before finally plunging over six miles, and…

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(@Johny)
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Maybe shot down by the bad guys idk! Prayers goes to all on board tho! Sick world


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 Dan
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Constant GPS jamming and spoofing in this area. Would explain a “navigation issue” but doesn’t explain the end result.


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(@PeteAU)
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Boeing solved that rudder hardover problem, right?


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Diamond
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“Maybe shot down by the bad guys idk!”

Sometimes saying nothing is better than saying anything. This is a case of that.

Perhaps you meant to write “First!!!!!!!11!!!!”


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(@Maryland)
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Condolences to the families. The struggle to control the aircraft in the final moments are chilling.


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 1990
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RIP to the crew.


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 Ross
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What happens to older aircraft in that part of the world when GPS is turned off?

The last previous flight shown on FlightAware was June 24, from Sharjah to Islamabad. So, when did it return to Sharjah, and why is it taking off two hours after sunset?


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 Tom
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If in conjunction with the auto-pilot?


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 snic
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What are "navigational issues"?


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(@Chris)
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GPS spoofing and jamming is common in the area.


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 John
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What is "Ugh" in the title supposed to mean? Seems a little blaze vs. the "gut wrenching" title for the UPS accident "awful" for the RJ bus accident and "devastating" for the DCA accident a few years back


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 Ru
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The UGH had n I thing to do with this story or any other. It was not intentional by all means. It was a comment on the 100 degree weather we r having.


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 Ru
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Ugh was ment for another conversation. This is my first group chat. My apologies


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Diamond
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Local media reporting that the aircraft was being ferried home after undergoing repairs.


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(@Eskimo)
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A slight climb before free fall reminds me of TWA800 and USS Vincennes.


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(@Steve)
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A debris field has been identified and Pakistani Navy is bringing up parts of the fuselage. Pictures on official Pakistani Gov. websites. RIP. Hoping they find the recorders.


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(@JPlat)
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This is another indication that the middle eastern countries does nothing but try to kill their own people in the pursuit of making Americans look bad. They would never have don't that to an Airbus.
Thank goodness we have Israel to police the middle east now and good job that Trump is in control of the situation.
It's time we ban unsavoury countries from purchasing our planes.


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(@Jerry)
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Boeing 737. Bingo!


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(@Scott)
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I think the only possibility that explains all these things happening is the prospect not of a missile but of the extensive amount of electronic warfare weapons being used by naval and air assets in that region. GPS spoofing, radar interference, etc by any of the actors in the guld region right now sounds like the least unlikely explanation.


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(@Steve)
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Are you Ok? Please remove tinfoil from your ears.


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Diamond
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They just let any idiot post on the internet.


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(@b-lrq)
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Yeah I agree, definitely out of place.


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Gold
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TIL Boeing was still producing 400s in 1999.


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 Sue
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I actually viewed it as a way to signal "I'm telling you about this but don't think I don't feel badly about it."


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(@Laura)
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Maybe UGH is not the best way to start a title on an article about a plane crash that cost five lives no matter how it happened. I love reading your articles, but the whole one word comment followed by a colon in the title is exhausting. This one is a bit inappropriate. Maybe tragic: or horrific: or awful: or something similar would have been a better choice. Just saying… or maybe just stop using the whole colon thing entirely.


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(@FlyerDon)
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This sounds like some kind of autopilot/stabilizer trim problem, perhaps complicated by incorrect crew inputs, that led to a stall/spin. In the heat of the moment a crewmember might have simply misspoke or misunderstood what was going on.


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(@Indopithecus)
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What brilliant insight! Perhaps matters will be clearer still once you take your head out of Bibi's rear end?


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(@John C. Tokalenko)
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Which US ships were in the area? Electronic jamming and then an SM-2 hit it?


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(@John C. Tokalenko)
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The bad guys are not the ones you probably imply. Same bad guys as USS Vincennes.


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(@Alan Z)
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I promise I won't call you an ahole.


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(@Andrei Ballsac)
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Spoken like a true lobotomy patient.


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(@Andrei Ballsac)
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No, this is the Russian way. Shoot first and not care.


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 lars
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My read on this:

You may be taking "navigational issues" too literally, as in taking as a given that this was properly diagnosed in the very limited time that they had, and that the nav system was, in fact, the issue and not merely a symptom.

More likely, in my opinion, the plane is on autopilot cruising, something (who knows what) happens and the result is a control surface failure. This leads to the plane changing course in an unexpected/unwanted way, and the pilot's initial guess was the nav system itself was fouling up rather than immediately recognizing that the directional changes were the result of the nav systems attempting to fight against flight control surface(s) which failed. The rapid climb and rapid descent may have come about from the pilot began hand-fly the craft with defective control surface(s), perhaps compounding the problem by applying rudder/control inputs under forces exceeding the safe operating limits of the airframe.


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Look up Iran Air Flight 655.


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