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Air New Zealand Orders Boeing 787-10

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A week ago I wrote about how it was expected that Air New Zealand would soon place an order for wide body Boeing jets.

Continue reading: Air New Zealand Orders Boeing 787-10

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Diamond
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Best aircraft producer. Maybe the best livery out there. Best combo.


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Diamond
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This was fairly predictable - firstly, the choice of Boeing over Airbus (Boeings are substantially cheaper to buy necause they're built down to a price - an average 787 is about half the price of an A350); secondly, the choice of the smaller capacity aircraft.

ANZ is not bad in lots of ways - very jolly staff in particular - but, those J seats... They're hideous enough on Virgin (who at least have recognised they need to replace them, albeit their choice of replacement is not very inspiring). I do wish ANZ would make a bold choice on replacing them.


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 Ken
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Luckily ANZ is working on a new business seat. Because that’s what they really need


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(@NickSJ)
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Most of the routes flown by ANZ's 787-9 fleet are shorter routes to Asia, which the -10's can easily fly, releasing the longer range -9's for the longest routes. The 10's could also do Auckland - California. By increasing premium class seating, the existing -9's could do Auckland-NYC, which is a couple of hundred miles shorter than Qantas' existing Perth-London route. If, as is likely, Boeing adds range to either model of the 787, that will be icing on the cake.


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Umm! List prices from OEM websites in USD.
787-8 248.3
787-9 292.5
787-10 338.4

A350-900 317.4
A350-1000 366.5

Note: Bus prices are in 2018 $ whereas Boeing prices are in 2019$ so you should add another 2% to the prices (average annual Bus price increase).

@ The nice Paul math isnt exactly your strong suit eh?


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(@Mark3)
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Imagine that - an airline with the smarts to have a single manufacturer fleet.


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 Luke
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@Mark3: they don’t have a single manufacturer fleet; they also fly airbus A320s and A321s


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Diamond
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@ skedguy

There’s a difference between the list price and the discounted price any airline actually pays. Why do you think so many airlines tell us about the difficulty they’re having in choosing between Airbus and Boring during sales negotiations? It’s all part of increasing the pressure, and the size of the discounts.

Just like only a fool pays the list price for a new car.

I’m guessing business is not your strong suit? 😉


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(@Aniljak)
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According to Australian and NZ aviation media where Air Nz Ceo is quoted, Air NZ has ordered a longer range version of 787-10 than the standard version. Worked with Boeing to extend range so can do Auckland to New York comfortably.
They will be in a premium class heavy configuration seating less than standard 787-10


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(@Shaun)
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Flying in any new aircraft is always a bonus (i.e. that 'new' smell, clean seats etc, etc) but in the case of NZ especially, the real drawcard - from a pax perspective - would surely have to be the forthcoming J class seats rather than the aircraft itself. I can't think of another reputable southern hemisphere airline which is in greater need of changing its current seats.


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(@Noah Bowie)
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So that's how trijets were sold. As if they were from a Turkish Bazaar

For you my friend, special price one extra engine


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