Air Canada is growing its Boeing 787 Dreamliner fleet, with an additional variant of the aircraft.
Continue reading: Air Canada Orders Up To 30 Boeing 787-10s
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Aside from passenger capacity, the -10s can carry more cargo containers; cargo has been especially a lucrative and vital business for carriers post-COVID. I wouldn't be surprised if more carries like CX order some.
Good for Air Canada. These new planes will be greatly appreciated by the traveling public. I wonder if they will be one of the largest 787-10 operators when/if they receive their options. Looks like it.
I could definitely see Air Canada using these for their flights from Vancouver to Brisbane and Sydney
The silver lining of all these Dreamliner & A350 orders over the past few years is that there will be a significant number of 777s for sale. I love the look & feel of the 777-300. While it is less efficient & noisy interiors, the spacious cabin is impressive. Every time I'm aboard a 773, I marvel at the sheer length While roaming the aisles on an overnight flight.
I don’t think it has the range: “However, the plane couldn’t operate most routes […] from Vancouver to the South Pacific.
I will cry if they replace the A330 fleet. It's the last bastion of civilized economy seating in the entire long haul fleet.
The 787-10 is a great aircraft with great economics. It just doesn't have the range for flights beyond 13 hours or so.
And airlines have turned the 787 in coach into a 9 abreast aircraft which makes it inferior to the 767 and A330
The 35K has much longer range and larger size.
DL supposedly has a proposal from GE and Boeing for the 787-10 that includes MRO rights on the GEnx engine which would be a huge revenue source.
But adding the 787 would significantly complicate DL's efforts to simplify its fleet
The 787-10 economics are compelling, the passenger experience in 9-abreast seating with a seat width of 17” (vs the A330’s 18”) not so much.
With nominally the same 17” seat width, the economy class travel experience in a 787 is for some reason also worse than that on a 777.
Most likely the newest A333s will go to Rouge as about half are less than 15 years old, while the other half are over 20, and Rouge hasn't had any transatlantic capacity since the B767s were retired.
With Qantas and now Air Canada, nice to see a boost for the 787-10 that had been a bit slow so far to gain traction, hope we'll see more orders as well. Wonder if American might order some?
The -10 is used on flights like LAX-NRT/HND, SFO-AKL, EWR-TLV, etc...none are pushing beyond 13 hours but that's not really the -10s role (that is for the -9).
I wouldn't be surprised to see CX and JAL order some. CXs 773 and (non ERs) some of their A330s are getting long in the tooth.
I thought that after the big UA 787 orders there wasn’t much availability for other airlines.
Are planes available in smaller quantities like this or has Boeing found a way to increase production?
Air Canada always on the move is my favorite Air Planes very peaceful with Air Canada. Allllllezzzzz laaaaaaaaa
It may depend a bit on how AC divvies up the -10 cabin. Their long haul fleet varies from 20 to 40 business seats, with 27-32 being the middle ranges. They haven't gone all that big on Prem Eco so far.
Will these be heavily economy for busy transatlantic routes? Could replace some 773 flying.
But more likely they'll sub in the new -10s on current -9 routes and use those to replace A333 flights.
The 330 are ancient worn out planes, even TAP didn't want them.
Knowing AC the 330 will go to Rouge, and need constant maintenance and contribute to Air Canada's hopeless on time performance.
I'm a bit surprised AC didn't order any of the "newer" 787-9 with longer range, that could eventually replace the 777-200s.
However I very much doubt AC will be replacing any of the 777s, other than the one 777-300 that is now a hull loss, from the fire in Montreal.
Lol we can only hope AC would replace it's 777-300 slave ships that have 450 passenger
I believe UA's ORD-HND flight is the longest -10 flight right now.
that is still 3/4 of what an A350 or B787-9 could do but any version of the A350 will carry alot more passengers and cargo over the same distance.
Given that many -10 operators have longer haul aircraft, the range of the -10 is not stopping its sales.
Pal, the B787-10 is not "significantly" larger than the A330-300. Very much basically identical
Delta's biggest fleet blunder was cancelling Northwest's 787 order. Their acquisition cost would have been so low compared to now jumping on the ship.
Additionally, the biggest mistake because of that decision is that TechOps has no MRO for the 787, or the GEnx engines (the most popular engine type for the 787). It is such a gaping hole it almost looks like an error.
Full Line Maintenance: 717, 737NG and MAX, 747, 757, 767, 777.
This is the best selling widebody of the last 10 years, and they have no rights. Unbelievably stupid decision.
Believe me, I'd love nothing more than seeing the 787 in Delta Livery.
The 78X is signicantly larger than the A339, the 78X is about the same size as the A359, 772 while the A339 is the same size as 789. You may be thinking they are the same size as they both have the same exit limit of 460, but that is with a 9-abreast layout on the 339, which is very unrealistc for most FSCs. Not 'very much basically identical'.
I flew UA 787-10 from IAD to PEK before Covid, so the plane does have the range from North American East Coast to North Asia (China, Japan and Korea).
Interestingly, I flew an AC A330 with a brand new interior last year. Wonder how/if date of last refurbish will impact their decisions on which aircraft to retire when.
Wonder if this purchase includes the increased gross weight (IGW) variant of the 787-10 that should be available at the time these deliveries take place.