99% Of Air Canada Flight Attendants Reject Contract Offer, Mediation Next

The upperups in the government (blue and red alike) belong to the same country club as AC upper management.
There is a glaring conflict of interest obviously. Part of the reason why AC continues getting bailouts (2008 Cons, 2020 Liberals) and continues to be subsidized by not allowing the ME3 freely into Canada

AC has such mediocre product and mediocre service its kind of laughable. And for being Canadian it's funny how the company hates its employees, the FAs hate their customers, and no one cares about the product.

This union wants their cake and they want to eat it, too. Their argument is that wages are below minimum wage, which might be true but only for junior FAs. If CUPE is anything like American carriers, I’d bet that their pay scale has a senior FA making more than double a junior FA and for what good reason?

I think unions should exist for unskilled labor like FAs, but it’s hard to root for CUPE and others like them when they seem to only really care about senior FAs. The only reason those junior FAs get lower than minimum wage is because senior FAs are probably making double and again, for what reason?

I’d personally appreciate if an arbitrator fixed this by more properly balancing the pay scale. If an FA wants to advance their pay faster, they can move to the schoolhouse, or management roles, but doing the same work and expecting double the pay just because you’ve done it longer than someone else is dumb.

I say all this and 100% agree with all FAs and others who believe Air Canada has too favourable treatment from the government and that has to be changed.

Canadians can be shockingly rude. I know two women from Ontario who are insufferable. I also know a man from British Columbia who constantly dunks on poor, working class people because he makes $2 million as a data scientist at Meta.

The membership was sold out in the back room so that CUPE execs can save massive fines from the Canadian government. CUPE embarrassed the Canadian government yet folded pretty quickly without actually solving the wage issue.

The Canadian government is very anti-labour and the PM is an elitist globalist who was the central banker for Canada and England. So....he will not allow the "little" people interfere with his economy.

There are no rights in Canada anymore....only the illusion....COVID and the latest use of the Labour code proves that.

Another day in Canuckistan

You lost us as calling flight attendants unskilled labor.

This is purely endless greed by the FAs.

They claim they get paid less than minimum wage, but the numbers they use in their arguments are based on the assumption they work full time, which is not true.

They do not work full time, which is 40 hours per week...they work much less than that.
Also, their travel perks are worth tens of thousands of dollars...you should include this in your total compensation before you claim you make too little money.

I have zero empathy for the AC FAs: they are just entitled, greedy group of people who think they are special and claim they are the unluckiest people on the planet, while providing garbage-level service to customers.

Way to generalize, long thick dude.

good for AC's FAs in keeping up the fight; they are trying to redefine N. American FA contracts and, while they may not succeed, they will fight to make their point.

The real loser in all of this is UA and its FAs who have a new model for compensation. If the AFA is even remotely awake, they are looking at what the AC FAs are doing and will fight for what matters for UA FAs. UA has played into the perceived powerlessness of its labor groups to save the company more than $1 billion/year in compensation. UA loves to convince its employees about how great the company is doing - even though most of it comes right off the employees' backs.

The notion that US labor laws are so much tougher and therefore the UA FAs won't succeed might as well lead to dissolving airline unions; if they can't fight and succeed in the present environment, then their members should simply dissolve their representation.

These stewardesses need to wake up and smell the coffee. Airlines operate at razor thin margins and if these women believe they need more money, they should go out and get an education and learn a skill that pays more.

Sara Nelson is a tool and cancer on the industry. She is far more interested in her own TV appearances than her union.

I’m sorry, I more meant that FAs are easier to replace than say a pilot or EMT. Not that the training is easy, or anyone can do it, because certainly not everyone can.

The CEO and a lot of upper management are also very low skilled labour. Maybe thin some ranks there

Many FA's of AC are of Indian origin, to them $$$$ before service. they try to copy airlines in India and provide the least amount of service. I had the misfortune of Flying AC Sfo to YYZ last month in Business Class. I have never come across a worst FA like this Lady (so called FA) named Monica.She just refused to give me water to take my medicine (Diabetic) till she was ready to bring out the cart. ( Remind you I was sitting in 1A, wife in 1B). She was rude all the way from SFO to YYZ I do not know what was her issue,maybe she was a Former Air India FA.

AC is mediocre airline staffed by mediocre cabin crew (and yes they are 'unskilled' as a previous poster truthfully stated), in a country governed by a mediocre govt. These three warring parties richly deserve each other. I eagerly await the same thing to happen to other mediocrity called Lufthansa.

Tim did you get abused or raped by someone at United when you're young?
It seems you're the only person obsessed with UA. No one else brought up UA like you accused people in other posts.

But you and FA are foolish to believe the government will "maintaining their neutrality". It's called Air Canada after all, not Air FA, Air Union, or Air Tim Dunn.

You act like this is a complicated job. This is literally a waitress at 35000 ft. It's not rocket science. I'd fire them all, scrap the union, and pay them fairly. Without union dues they actually would make more $

Love that you’re complaining about an issue you created yourself by not bringing your own water onboard.

Take some accountability and don’t blame others for your issues.

Is it your first time flying? There are multiple times per flight that flight attendants are unable to provide service and the period in which they are may not align with when you think it is.

again, UA is the only one of the big 4 that has yet to settle w/ its FAs.

No one has to have been abused by UA to realize that it is all smoke, mirrors and happy music to hide how well UA takes advantage of ITS people.

It must be a Star kind of thing.

and you are the fool if you think that a private company should suckle at the nipple of its regulator.

Dumm,
then why doesn't UA AND AC lock out their unions.

I presume you believe that the mechanics and pilots are the only skilled workers at an airline so every one else should just be locked out, the unions thrown out, and everyone should be happy, right?

And what about any AC male 'stewardesses' ?

Tim, somehow you managed to drag Delta into this and then the airline you hate United.
You getting fired from your airline job makes you a bitter troll.

Why? It's a 12 weeks of training! That's what low skilled work is

The sooner we allow AC to go bankrupt, and get rid of 1/2 the management, and make new rules for employees the better.
The stupidity of seniority with FA is epic.

I’d those women were appointed CEO and given upper management positions, Air Canada would be bankrupt inside of a week.