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New Lufthansa Allegris Business Class Launching May 2024

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Lufthansa is preparing to introduce its new premium cabin experience, known as Allegris. This will include a new business class product (to be installed initially on newly delivered A350s and 787s), as well as a new first class product (to be installed initially on newly delivered A350s).

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 TMT
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Perhaps Lufthansa deliberately delayed the rollout for seven years to distract everyone from the fact that Allegris' appalling layout? The inconsistent seats across the cabin; a few odd seats with access to a distant single window; the two weird claustrophobic seats in the middle that were squeezed in because someone in the finance department insisted that they must have a higher seat count. All in all it looks utterly embarassing for an aspiring modern-day airline - no wonder they delayed it for seven years!


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 Tom
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Indeed, almost more embarrassing than the seven years it took to start installing it is how dated the layout in business class already is, basically Lufthansa will still be rolling out this c.2007 business class twenty years after others with the competitors almost two whole generations of business class seat further along. This is an inferior seat to what AF and BA already have, let alone their competitors going East - just madness.


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(@JamesW)
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The 747-8 fleet will have new seats on the main deck, but keep the awful 2-2 configuration on the popular and beloved upper deck? This is ridiculous. Why would anyone in the future pay a premium to select an upper-deck seat (as so many 747 passengers do) if the hard product is so obnoxiously outdated?

Allegris is perfectly capable of installing direct-aisle access seats on the upper deck of a 747. They can take this exact product (window seats only) and make it work. There'd be some reduction in capacity, but at least they'd have a consistent product and something for which customers would gladly pay extra.


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(@Connor)
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Without even mentioning the awful rollout of the product, can we point out how annoying it is that there's 4 or 5 different seat types? If I'm paying for a premium product the last thing I want is to then have to worry about getting one of those terrible aisle seats or having to pay an extra $300 because all the decent standard seats are taken. I know that paid seat assignments are a big thing on non-US carriers and that "Premium Business" is the new trend in monetization but the entire cabin concept just feels so tacky and transactional.


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(@Tiger)
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There are 7 different seat types. Allegris is a joke.


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(@Speedbird)
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Maybe Lufthansa has one remaining functioning braincell and are planning to sell those upper deck seats as "Premium Economy Plus".

Lufthansa just dig up those old 744 First Class Seats and put Allegris in the nose! Use the extra space for an F/J lounge, I know a lot of folks on here don't care for them, but as someone with a blood clotting disorder I really value being able to get up and walk around, and the truth is you can't really do that through aisles very well without disrupting others.

Or even make a Y/Y+ mini cabin. Again, makes for a more consistent product and plenty of airlines have done this back in the days of 744s and 742s


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(@Jake212)
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So Lufthansa’s most premium N. Amer routes from MUC are BOS, JFK and LAx (which all get First Class A380’s & A346’s), but LH will be premiering Allegris on second-tier markets like MUC-YVR, YYZ & YUL. Makes sense.

Wouldn’t markets like MUC-JNB, CPT & SIN make more sense?


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(@Dan M)
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I think it makes sense to work out kinks and beta test the roll out on secondary markets that are culturally similar to the primary premium markets, rather than risking a rocky roll out and unfavorable initial opinions that could stick on your most desired and profitable customers.


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(@Dan M)
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The terribly delayed and problem-plagued opening of the new Berlin-Brandenburg airport was a preview for this, and an example of how the concept of “German efficiency” is a historical fact rather than a contemporary cultural feature.


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 Ryan
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I mean, this doesn’t even look that great. I’d be a lot more excited to fly on AF or even Condor with their new seats rather than this product. I find LH to be a very vanilla, blah experience…. And these seats designed 7 years ago would do little to drive me towards LH vs. the many better options already out there..


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(@Tim Dumdum)
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Would Skytrax award LH 7 stars, now that the product is being introduced actually?! One * for, ahem, one year delay each...


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(@Shutterbug)
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Seems to be a joke – and the joke is on us paying customers. So you have to pay extra to get a simple window seat? 5 different seats and rates assures many angry customers. Well done, Lufthansa!


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 CXP
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I have been avoiding Lufthansa and their outdated seats on long-haul for a while now. Swiss seats are outdated too at this point. When you're flying United over Swiss and LH b/c the seats are better I think that says it all.

Are they planning on charging the same for the 747 Upper deck seats as the main deck J seats?


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 John
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Cramped. Narrow. Dull. Uninspired. Depressing. LATE.

Pity the Lufty customers who waited seven years for the 'privilege' of flying in this seat. Is 'allegris' Italian for 'sucker'??


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(@Tiger)
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Tim Dunn should have something to say about LH getting 7 stars.


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 UGC
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Ben
How does allegris compare to other, best-in-class, seat configurations in terms of footprint/density/space optimization?
Also, will LH then hold a record in terms of different J configurations available at the same time?
Thanks


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 Th_D
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NB : one of the wine offered was a red wine from Portugal. Was good so this morning I managed to buy some. Bottle is sold at 6.50 USD. Now you understand why you pay 8500 USD for a flight GVA-KIX-GVA don't you ? ;-)))


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