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World Of Hyatt Adds 100+ All-Inclusive Resorts, New Award Chart

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In 2021, Hyatt purchased Apple Leisure Group, paving the way for World of Hyatt to add 100+ all-inclusive properties to the program. The process of these hotels being integrated into World of Hyatt is continuing, as we’re seeing the final stages of these properties being added to World of Hyatt. It’s now possible to earn…

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Diamond
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I can't help but wonder if this A-F award chart with higher pricing is also meant to condition us to a devaluation in the future. I remember when Hyatt swore up and down that Category 8 was only for ultra high end SLH properties and that no Hyatt would be Category 8... and now here we are with quite a few Hyatts in Category 8.


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Diamond
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Are these properties fully integrated into Hyatt? Meaning status will be recognized and SNAs can be redeemed? Or is it like a "halfway" integration like SLH?


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 DCS
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I can't help but wonder if this A-F award chart with higher pricing is also meant to condition us to a devaluation in the future. I remember when Hyatt swore up and down that Category 8 was only for ultra high end SLH properties and that no Hyatt would be Category 8... and now here we are with quite a few Hyatts in Category 8.

Astute remark. I was about to post something suggesting exactly the same thing.

Some may remember that when Hyatt released their most recent seasonal award chart, I was surprised that the highest award cost was not 50K WoH points/night, as that value would have exactly matched Hilton's new highest award rate of 150K HH/night (50K WoH * 3HH/1WoH = 150K HH). I had that expectation because Hyatt has religious adjusted their highest award rate to be ~1/3 of Hilton's (an example of points currency "peg").

Well, here it is. Hyatt's highest standard award rate is now 50K WoH points per night as I'd expected, which opens the door wide for 50K/night to also because the highest award rate for non-all-inclusive properties.

Stay tuned!


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"...to also become..."


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 Mark
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Do globalists get free breakfast at these properties?


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 TimR
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Status doesn't usually mean much as AI's (such as Ziva/Zilara currently) but you can use SNA's at the new resorts.


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Diamond
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Anybody interested in taking bets on the long odds that suite upgrade certificates are accepted at these properties?


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Diamond
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Yes. I’m betting Hyatt Ziva / Zilara / etc make the jump onto this chart.


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(@Ethan)
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yeah, exactly what we need from Hyatt - says every Globalist.


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(@Miles ahead)
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Slh is not owned or managed by Hyatt, this is, aka acquisition


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(@Keith S.)
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They've already updated the terms and conditions for suite upgrade certificates: not allowed at any of these. (But Ziva and Zilara have not been added, so they may still be good there.)


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(@Joseph)
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Haha!


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(@FNT Delta Diamond)
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What about Hyatt elite status benefits at all-inclusives? Marriott's all-inclusives have their own "supplemental" elite benefits, which arguably are better for top-tier ambassador elites than staying at a non-all-inclusive resort:

https://viewfromthewing.com/marriott-has-supplemental-bonvoy-terms-with-special-benefits-no-resort-fees-at-certain-properties/

While Hyatt's portfolio is expanding, almost all of Hyatt's growth are all-inclusive properties, resort properties, or limited-service properties. The lack of new, full-service properties is a major issue since there are lots of markets without any Hyatt options save for a Hyatt Place.

As someone actively cheating on Marriott, my choice in most markets comes down to a Holiday Inn -- if I'm very lucky, a Hotel Indigo -- or a Hyatt Place.


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 Ben
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No Kimptons? Bummer, but 100% the best brand under IHG.


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(@khatl)
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Adding a new A-F is bizarre, when it mirrors the current award chart categories 4 thru 8, except it now adds a new Category 9!!!


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 Ryan
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Ben - out of curiosity, are you making any plans to stay at any of these resorts in the near future? Would love to see some reviews.


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 ECR
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I'd like this as well. All inclusive is generally not something I look for, but I'd like to see Ben review one of the nicer properties to see how it stacks up.


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(@Sir Digby Chicken Caesar)
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Yes, please do a few of them Ben! Some high end ones and some of the cheaper options. I’ve always wondered what free-flow tacos does to a man after seven days


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Diamond
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I question what it means to "cheat" on Marriott when they have such low regard for your relationship with them. 😉


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 Greg
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Is there anyway to see a list of Category A, ategoy B etc resorts? Curious where the lower price AI are located.

Also can you use a Category 4 certificate at a Category A 15k AI resort?


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 Rhys
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What are the age bands and additional cost using points for kids at an all-inclusive? I tried to add my five year old to a Ziva Cap Cana room and the agent said it took three nights from 75K to 157K total. That was was ridiculous. I could just have gotten two rooms on points with two more adult slots who eat way more expensive food and drink versus a kid. I had a hard time trying to figure this out on the web the hotel seemed to throw out a random huge number of points.


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 Buzz
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I wonder if the Travel club product will still be pushed at these? I don’t mean Hyatt Residence Club but AMR had an aggressive pitch to join a vacation club to use all these properties.

Just stayed at Ziva Los Cabos and was recognized as a Globalist which included a separate club with higher quality liquor. Food was not that great and won’t return.


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(@wanderingjos)
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This globalist is currently enjoying the Zoetry Montego Bay and am quite happy to have more coverage in these parts of the world...where Hyatt has been lacking. This, for me, includes Europe, the Caribbean and Latin America. Go Hyatt!


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 Hank
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Read "Hyatt" and "new award chart" and my stomach dropped lol.


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Diamond
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"Look at all these new places my Category 1-7 cert won't work at"
"Look at these places where being a globalist means nothing in regards to upgrades or free breakfast."
"Look at all these places where club lounges don't exist."

I want to like expansions of a portfolio, but only if it helps build the desire to be loyal. These properties are more transactional.


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Diamond
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It ensures your Hyatt free night from the credit card isn't redeemable at any of these properties. Isn't that nice?


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(@kels2003)
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Lucky, will Miraval be going to this point system since it's an all-inclusive? That would be a decrease in price based on double occupancy!


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(@AdamH)
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Guess it will come down to individual properties and how these price out. Have a feeling there is way less value on the all-inclusive award chart compared to the dollar cost some of the Cat 7/8 properties are per night vs their point values.


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(@ECR12)
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All inclusives aren’t top of my ideal ways to spend a vacation but I’m definitely interesting in seeing reviews on these, I’m open to changing my mind if it’s well done.


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(@Eskimo)
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Confusing AF, pun intended.


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 LSP
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Ditto - I'd love to see reviews of some of the nicest Hyatt AI's in Mexico/Carribean (I've read the Zoetry tends to be the most upscale brand?).


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(@Janis Woodford)
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Hello, glad to know has joined in on acquiring all Inclusive properties. Finally we can trust that the properties will be of high quality and a safe environment. Looking forward to Booking tonight!


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