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It's Official: Air France Is Returning To Seattle In March 2018

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A bit over a week ago I shared the rumor that Air France would be bringing back their flight to Seattle Tacoma. The airline flew to Seattle between 2007 and 2012, at which point they handed over the route to their joint venture partner, Delta. Well, there's now an update on this front -- Air…

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 Evan
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I have an award booking on Delta in May to go from Seattle to Paris, in DL J. Do you think it's worth switching to AF?


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Diamond
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Not seeing availability with AS mile 🙁

Perhaps it's just hasn't filtered down yet.


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 Alan
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I'm not seeing much availability for award travel on Alaska.


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(@Thomas)
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Yeah, the SEA-CDG for summer seems not to be there for AS miles...


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 D
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There's zero award availability per flight through Alaska, though that's actually norm rather than exception on all Air France routes.


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 ASA
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They literally JUST announced the route today. Give them a chance to put it in the damn mileage plan system people


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 Ryan
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Luckey, did you see that Monarch Airlines has completely ceased operations?
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/monarch-airlines-collapses-largest-uk-airline-failure/


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 Ryan
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Lucky, did you see that Monarch Airlines has completely ceased operations?
https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/monarch-airlines-collapses-largest-uk-airline-failure/


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(@Another Steve)
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Glad it’s a bit later in the day than the Delta flight, can’t sleep on the early afternoon departures from west coast


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 Alex
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SEA is my home airport, I’m really glad to see they’re doing this. About time! I’m sick of the Delta A330 intl. service.

Too bad it’s not a big enough market for the La Premiere service.


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As a Flying Blue Platinum living in Seattle, I am excited to have AF coming to my hometown. With the nice DL lounge here, the flight will be my first choice if it offers First Class. Too bad....

I always pay for AF La Premiere (First Class) because of their great service, good food out of Paris, and Paris lounge. Now I still have to fly AF via LAX to get the best transatlantic first class on AF 77W and to use QF F lounge (assigned for AF F pax) to get decent lounge experience.

When I am bored of AF, I still have to fly transatlantic on LH F, LX F, via LAX to fly F, and to get a decent star alliance lounge in LAX TBIT experience (or until UA open something nice in SFO in a near future, via SFO).

As for OneWorld (also AA Exec Plat) BA F/J lounge here is a joke, I try to come to the airport as late as possible when flying BA. I even drive to YVR to get better experiences sometimes (my office is between the 2 cities). Always fly CX F YVR to JFK

I wish Airlines see more potential of Seattle and start sending more aircraft with First Class here (and lie flat domestic to NYC & Hawaii other than DL). BA sends 747 with Business class all the way to door 4. Seattle has Microsoft, Amazon, Space X, Boeing, Blue Origin, Starbucks, etc. lots of people are willing to pay for first class here. It's a fast growing city, and the fastest growing major airport in the country.


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Rechecking this - there are flights in Summer 2018 where there are 5 J seats SEA-CDG - booking with AS miles.

I don't know if it's phantom availability, but it's there!


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 DTS
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When searching for AF awards on the AS website, I never see any connections offered, even if the connecting AF flight itself is bookable via AS. So I see SEA-CDG and CDG-XXX available, but I'm not offered SEA-CDG-XXX. Is that the norm? Do I have to call to book that?


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For those NOT flying in the premium cabins, Delta’s 777s are nine abreast 3-3-3 at 18.5” wide, while Air France packs ten seats per row in the hideous (for a 777), and much loathed, 3-4-3 densified configuration where seats are barely 17” wide, and aisles are extremely narrow.

In standard pitch rows, seatguru.com reports Delta’s at 31-32” and Air France’s at 32”.

Delta also offers “Economy Comfort” extra space rows on its 777s, where the row pitch on its 777s is a spacious 35” — much better for taller flyers, or those who want to have more room to stretch out for a long haul flight but whose budgets cannot accommodate the cost of premium cabins.

For those whose budgets allow for premium cabins, Air France may be the better choice given its generally better reputation for its cuisine, or the option of a true premium economy section which Delta does not offer yet on its 777s.


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For those NOT flying in the premium cabins, Delta’s 777s are nine abreast 3-3-3 at 18.5” wide, while Air France packs ten seats per row in the hideous (for a 777), and much loathed, 3-4-3 densified configuration where seats are barely 17” wide, and the two aisles are extremely narrow.

In standard pitch economy rows, seatguru.com reports Delta’s at 31-32” and Air France’s at 32” for their 777s.

Delta also offers “Economy Comfort” extra space rows on its 777s, where the row pitch on its 777s is a relatively spacious 35” — much better for taller flyers, or those who want to have more room to stretch out for a long haul flight but whose budgets cannot accommodate the cost of premium cabins.

For those whose budgets allow for premium cabins, Air France may be the better choice given its generally better reputation for its cuisine, or the option of a true premium economy section which Delta does not offer yet on its 777s.


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Duplicate post NOT intended. Apologies for the error!


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 Tae
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what happened to all the availability? just couple days ago, there were ok availability.. even SEA-CDG-DXB... anyway, all gone now. Zero availability of SEA-CDG July and August. I checked, ExpertFlyer, AS and DL sites. None shows any. All taken already?


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(@OR 97)
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When do you think the new summer AF sea-cdg routes will be available for award redemption using Alaska miles?


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 Avi
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Can't wait just booked a ticket using my Chase Sapphire card for June in Business, super easy and value was definitely there!. Does anyone know which lounge AF plans to use in Seattle?


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@ Avi -- Not positive, but I would guess they'll use the Delta SkyClub.


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(@Elston J Hill)
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Just booked RT with Alaska miles for December. Had to use a human assistant at Alaska to make it work. Here is the big deal. Air France will no longer be available after April 30. The relationship is over, but if you book now, you can still get seats past that date.


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(@Elston J Hill)
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Incidentally, the flight I just booked for December is on an Airbus 330.


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