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Delta Regional Flight Attendants Told "Act Your Wage," "No Need To Be Extra"

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Someone at the country’s biggest flight attendant union has maybe been watching a little too much RuPaul’s Drag Race, because this sass is quite something…

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(@Chuck)
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I can’t blame them for that.


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(@George Romey)
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Flight attendants should not be arguing with bozo passengers. Inform the pilot and if on the ground the gate agent. They can decide what action to take, including the plane being met by the police.


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(@IntlBizTraveller)
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Act the wage you want to be, not the wage you are. Not suggesting the advice is wrong, but FAs not wanting to be judged on their behavior? That’s insanity.


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 1990
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Maybe, hear me out, all crew members (and support staff) at all the airlines (and other businesses) should be paid a living wage, if not, a thriving wage, with benefits, healthcare (ideally, not even tied to employment), and retirement planning. But… I guess that’s ‘socialism,’ so we get ‘bootstraps’ instead.

For those that rush on here to bash unions or to diminish flight attendants, I really pity you; first, organized labor has done countless good for workers and society at-large; and, also, these flights crews are professionals who keep us safe and comfortable, lest we forget. Treat others as you and they wish to be treated.


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 1990
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Or, just pay your people better.


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 1990
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Ah, the chain of command. ‘Until we get on the ground, everyone’s on their own.’ Hope that there aren’t any bozos on your flights. Phew!


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(@alonzo)
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Define living wage with an actual dollar amount.


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(@Tee Jay)
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Endeavor F/As at least deserve hazard pay since they've had to evacuate an upside-down aircraft and suffer injuries from a collision with another company aircraft.....


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Diamond
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Great news for you. They are paid very well for the work they do! And then some!!


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 1990
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You know that it depends on many factors. The answer is usually: More.


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 1990
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Well then, problem solved. Please do say that specifically to the next flight crew you see.

"(You) are paid very well for the work (you) do!" (Then sip your PDB... yum.)


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(@AeroB13a)
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Maslow's hierarchy of needs …. a very interesting concept, yes?

Sadly, the basics of successful personal management has been trashed by ‘know-nothings’ who claim to be business school teachers, etc.


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 1990
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I suspect Tim would emphasize that those were all 'Endeavor Air' not 'Delta'... *cough*

Besides, DL4819 was marketed as a 'rollercoaster,' and also, those two LGA aircraft were 'bumper-cars' not commercial flights. C'mon. Get the facts straight!


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(@alonzo)
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@1990 Always operating in the gray. Glad you're still using ketamine.


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the principle has nothing to do with DL or Endeavor or even how much any one makes.

The principle is that FAs should tell people what they are required to do by law, advise when passengers are doing things that irritate other people even if not illegal, and then walk away and report to someone else to resolve or let it go.

DL and WN have a pretty long history of non-confrontational passenger relations compared to other airlines; Endeavor is just telling its FAs to follow DL's model.

you you know that I said the same thing on Gary's site - as did you.


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 1990
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Alonzo, for instance, to you, an actual dollar amount may never be enough. But, for others, say, your employees, properly compensating them will always seem 'too much' for your, if you are the business owner or shareholder, because paying them more will lower your profits, perhaps. Yet, you may still need reliable, excellent staff. Huh. What a balancing act this all is. It's all perspective. And, it does vary.

Actually, ignore all that noise. Just blame 'lazy' and 'greedy' workers. Peasants!


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 1990
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I know, Tim, we should 'let it go' sometimes, but, it's just too fun to... KEEP... CLIMBING!


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(@Gail Winters)
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The destruction of Delta continues. These affiliate attendants will eventually be working for Delta. Their management needs some additional schooling. Who will hit the bottom first, Delta or Southwest?


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(@bigjinla)
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I'm sorry 1990, but that's just nonsense. If you pay FAs a living wage there won't be as much money to give executives bonuses or as much profit left for stock buy backs. Corporations aren't here to "take care of people." They're here to ensure the wealthy continue siphoning off all of the societal wealth that they can.


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Diamond
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It's always amusing how sometimes Tim loves Delta regionals when it lets him say Delta has more flights than UA in NYC (but only because Delta can only make most of those flights on a regional, not proportionally more mainline like UA).
Then always gets owned by anyone that uses facts and data

But there are many times, where it's only Delta mainline metal that matters if it means some obscure metric where Delta wins...

Apparently, the Tim reaction to this is "delta mainline FAs operated under this 'don't bother with safety much', so should Endeavor"


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 1990
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"I prefer Coke, not Pepsi."

We get it. You like United. Tim likes Delta. They're not thaaaat different. *gasp*

Yeah. Polaris. DeltaOne. Oh, and the each serve Coke. Only jetBlue serves Pepsi. Bah!


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 1990
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Good point, Jerry.

$27.1 million (2024) wasn't enough for Ed.
$33.9 million (2024) wasn't enough for Scott.
$31.4 million (2023) wasn't enough for Robert.

We should pity--no weep for--these poor, sad men, who are just hard-working mercenaries (for our actual billionaire oligarchs.)

Also, those 'tasty' buybacks using taxpayer funds during the pandemic were so 'yummy' (like, how we're no ending food assistance and implementing austerity to pay for more tax cuts for the wealthiest people and corporations.)


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 1990
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Gail, Delta's doing just fine, though, it's flight attendants really should join their pilots (since 1934) in organizing.


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Diamond
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isn't it a little early for you to be drinking?

I know you are hellbent on trying to prove me wrong but your post doesn't even make logical sense.


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(@Robert D)
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Never in my life have I heard the term, “act your wage”. Is that really something people say?


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Diamond
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Is there any way to see everybody’s posts except 1990-can’t-help-himself?


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(@Billy H.)
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Maybe it was written in a fun sassy way because that gets Flight Attendants to read it. ‍♂️
By the way, I've only ever watched one episode of Rupaul's Drag Race


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 1990
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Then why don't you... 'sashay away'!


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 1990
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"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer..."


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(@Eskimo)
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@Tim Dunn
“Act Your Wage,” “No Need To Be Extra”

“You do not get paid to argue. Just stop. There’s absolutely no need to be extra. This is not within your job scope. Act your wage. You’re a nobody, not a Delta Spokesperson.”


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Gold
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He's like this on Gary's site as well - constant commentary.

Usually not additive.


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Diamond
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so you and a bunch of other characters get paid to argue but I don't?

thanks for confirming that aviation social media is infiltrated by paid airline employees.


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(@AeroB13a)
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Happy Halloween Tim, I note that you continue to be harassed by the ever increasing number of website trolls, gullible goons and ignoramuses.

Perhaps it is time for those who are actually interested learning something about civil aviation, to simply ignore the gross ignorance of the few? I agree that it is far to easy to destroy their pathetic pros, however, by doing do it simply feeds their argumentative tendencies.

Ignorance is bliss …. they are ignorant and it will be bliss when they shuffle off to pester victims new …. 🙂


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(@Facts Matter)
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The Union has succeeded in getting these workers some of the lowest wages in the industry plus union dues.

Why do workers want such an incompetent union


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(@Facts Matter)
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The Union has succeeded in getting these workers some of the lowest wages in the industry plus union dues.

Why do workers want such an incompetent union


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(@Sherman anti trust)
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The fact that delta’s regional FAs are union has always confused me - like they can see how much better things are at the nonunion mainline carrier and the only reason they exist is that the mainline pilot union insists on extorting the American public through the scope clause. Why do they put up with it?


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(@mr pinkerton)
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We hate unions because they reward seniority over service level - leading to the absurd situation where there is often an inverse correlation between service level and pay. Pilot and FA unions give all organized labor a bad name.

Theyre just parasitic monopolies that insist on extorting the American public while making it extremely hard for most people to break into the industry. It should be illegal


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 Anna
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If our behavior with passengers had to match our pay , then we would have zero safety, zero standards, zero professional behavior and look, zero service. Just the presence on board.... enough said.


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(@Lighting1)
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Historically flight attendants get really bad union contracts because they have really bad union representatives. Management is not going to just give them bennefits. Benefits are negotiated. Also, unlike pilots, flight attendants aren't as unified. One group wants hotels by shopping malls, another wants to drop all flights and still get medical and flight bennefits. And the union wants work rules that force the airline to hire excess personnel for featherbeding that only helps the union. Pilots stick to the basics, money, work rules that maximize time spent on the job and job security. I was a union member at a legacy airline for 25 years and saw the flight attendant's chaotic unions do them no favors.


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(@Guest)
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Remember. Pilots are highly trained professionals. FA’s serve drinks and peanuts at 30k feet. Which is easier to replace?


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