A Delta first officer has been indicted for pulling a gun on and threatening to shoot the captain after they had a disagreement. What is wrong with people?!
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Geez.
I once had an Iraqi Air 74 pilot threaten to kill my entire "clan" because he was being speed controlled and denied a shortcut enroute to Jeddah. Very holy of him.
What's the backstory here?
What was the diversion point? Did the first officer have a spurned lover there? Was there a warrant out for his arrest there? Was the diversion point -- quelle horreur! -- Newark?
Come on, Ben! We want to know the answers!
So you know all the details of this case do you? C'mon, spill. Elaborate on how this was all about equity?
Sorry mental issues have nothing to do with this. We can’t be the only country with mental issues, we can’t be the only country with PTSD!! What about sane people who aren’t mentally ill and just snap?
This country continues to choose to follow a text that’s 300 years old, even though the society we live in is denser and more complicated. Avg ppl support these gun laws to please their corporate overlords. It’s all about $$$$$ and the brainwashed masses who are doing the work for the NRA and specially interest lobby!
I know crews can bid lines to avoid working with specific other crew members. They should be able to bit to not be paired with FFDOs.
You hit the nail on the head with the FAA's lack of interest in addressing mental health in a productive manner.
The country doesn't "follow a text thats 300 years old".
We manipulate and misinterpret it for personal power and profit!
Too many guns out there in our society. Too many people with mental issues, flying under the radar and also have access to guns. Just look at our headlines in the past few weeks. What does this say about our society?
Lots of nuts running around but our Medical Industrial Complex and the COVID pushers seem to have no interest in why or what to do about it. Airlines are the only industry dealing with crazies on the job.
Delta is the best airline in the world and Dunn is a hero. It is the other pilot that should be in prison for interfering with a crew (Dunn).
sadly, he was the loose cannon cousin.
Not sure why this never came out at Thanksgiving dinner last year.
Hope he gets the help he needs - his career will be nowhere near aviation.
Actually it's only 235 years old; but then again liberals have always been bad at math.
Haha true… I was rounding waaaaay up! 🙂
But you get the point. We are free from a political stance but corporates in America run the the show!
Ben- this story has been reposted since its original publishing. What did you add/change/update?
Americans or mostly republicans and the NRA. Civilised countries and people don’t need them.
LOL you’re really off the deep end, George. Less internet and more therapy might be in order for you.
You can’t help yourself, can you? How do you even walk out the front door when there’s a risk you might see someone different from you and get triggered? F***ing loser maggot. The only thing that would help you at this point would be some zip ties and an auger through each eye socket.
Thanks for sharing. What does that have to do with this story? Worthless f***ing Troglodyte.
So was this the same Jonathan Dunn that as an Air Force pilot went to the Supreme Court with a case against the Biden ainistration's vaccine mandate?
Do we need armed pilots? Frankly, I’d feel much safer without the Federal Flight Deck Officer program.
Until you need Americans via the US military to carry out the hard dirty work to maintain Western hegemony your country doesn't want to do.
"This country continues to choose to follow a text that’s 300 years old,"
People are free to repeal the Amendment via the process built into the Constitution. It can comport to modern times as much as you want, you just need to do the leg work.
And, we need to bring COVID into the discussion because . . . ? Are airlines truly the only industry dealing with crazies on the job? Just curious, how do you feel about black people voting? Or, black people in general? Or, Slavs and Asians and Jews and Muslims?
I am an airline pilot and I agree. And for context I served in the military for 25 years so it’s not like I’m unfamiliar with weapons.
I originally read this as happening in August 2023... but this happened in August 2022?! So it took over a *year* for this co-pilot to be charged?!
I hear Australia is nice this time of year. You should look into it, put those miles to good use.
We have plenty of gun laws. The jurisdictions with the most laws have the largest problem. How is life in DC, Chicago, or Baltimore working out?
This guy is a one off and we don’t need it to springboard for a lecture on a Constitutional right.
I alluded to your average 100 kilo republican from Hicksville who claims they need to go to Walmart with a machine gun.
Right, because too few people in prison is a problem we actually have in America. In any event, we can't keep everyone locked up forever, and according to certain courts, it's unconstitutional to prevent former felons from owning guns...
Not true, Old Joe. Scientific studies show that certain types of gun control laws are effective at preventing certain outcomes (violent crime, mass shootings, suicides), while the evidence is otherwise mostly inconclusive. https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/key-findings/what-science-tells-us-about-the-effects-of-gun-policies.html
A major problem with gun laws in the U.S. is the patchwork of state laws makes it very easy for someone to bring guns from one jurisdiction to commit crimes in another. Chicago is a good example, as it is right next door to states with lax gun laws. As a result, a (slight) majority of guns used for crimes in Chicago come from out of state. https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-crime-shooting-guns-illinois-gun-laws/11937013/
Agreed. Plus, I fear that the pilots who are eager to have a gun on them in the cockpit are exactly the ones who probably shouldn't have guns (like this guy). The whole program was enacted out of post 9/11 fear and paranoia, and doesn't seem like it's ever served any useful purpose.
Then tell Democrats to put criminals in prison where they belong
When they try, you scream "election interference!"
...make up your mind.
As Ben reported, he was a member of the Federal Flight Deck Officer program...
uh, no.
there were 2 families that left Ireland during the potato family and the name has been replicated quite well.
WTH is the point of that program?! It’s not like anyone can get through that door if the pilot doesn’t want them to.
No civilized countries have bombings, poison gas attacks and mass stabbing events
You can’t take the valid comment? Tells me you are the problem, unwilling to fix the symptom.
Yet ANOTHER reason not to fly Delta...EVER Tim Dunn is a False Prophet of the DL Cult. #Deltageddon
Under sentencing guideline §2A5.2, that's likely a base level of 30, +3 for brandishing a firearm, +2 for abuse of a position of trust under §3B1.3 = offense level 35 is 168-210 months incarceration without plea/acceptance of responsibility, 121-151 months with that 3-level drop.
@Pudu,
Obviously he is trying to convey there are a few “special” pilots in all countries….stop your “pearl clutching” ffs!
I came for the Dunn commentary but I was sadly disappointed on that front. Your comment made up for it, though. Thank you
Why does any flight crew have a gun? If passengers are not allowed then there is no reason for them to have a gun too. Problem solved.