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In the past few years, Delta has been investing in improving its inflight Wi-Fi, with the goal of eventually offering free Wi-Fi throughout the fleet, in partnership with T-Mobile. The airline started rolling out free Wi-Fi in early 2023. While a vast majority of the domestic fleet now has free Wi-Fi, there’s still a lot…

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(@Icarus)
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Air France will introduce free starlink WiFi this year. Unfortunately it’s starlink whose fascist ceo has a name reminiscent of a 1970s underarm deodorant. KLM has no plans to follow as far as I am aware.


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Diamond
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Delta, like American, has the Viasat solution for its longhaul WiFi fleet. They have had multiple delays in getting additional satellites in the sky and delivering the amount of WiFi capacity that were planned. DL's Pacific and S. Atlantic WiFi delays are for this reason.
DL also signed a contract for Hughes WiFi for its remaining A350-900 deliveries which apparently says they are planning an out if Viasat can't deliver.
And, before someone touts the paid Wifi that other carriers have in regions where DL is not able to offer anything right now, airlines buy capacity from satellite providers. Even though they may use the same satellites as other carriers, if a WiFi provider can't provide the capacity, they can't move forward with any WiFi.

DL is already installing WiFi on its 717s and its regional jets also using a Hughes solution.

Delta still operates the world's largest fleet of aircraft equipped with free high speed WiFi and will have its entire fleet including regional jets completed years before any other airline reaches even a fraction of their fleet.


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(@AeroB13a)
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Why bother commenting?
Are you a simple Mason, Eskimo, Arps clone or whatever?


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(@Plane Jane)
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Ben,
Love ya. But "free" needs to be rephrased. Jetblue offers free wifi. Delta still charges for it unless you join SkyPesos and agree to give up all your data to be sold.

That's "free" but it isn't in line with other carriers that provide better wifi today like AA and jetblue. AA for a charge. but their business model is NOT taking all your data as part of "free". I really think "free" should have a giant asterisk.

Does Delta really need to know about your personal fetish? They seem to want to know about Tim Dunn's trip to the Atlanta Eagle to give free wifi.

But again. It's good to reinforce that Delta does not have free wifi. They have limited wifi on some flights, never global, sometimes they have wifi, many times they have none on HUGE parts of their network, even domestic (per delta's own choices). Delta planned on their 717s having nothing for nearly a decade as part of their "free high speed wifi" knowing well that gogo would be the most they'd have, until 2026 (for now)

AA has global wifi where I can stream netflix on EVERY mainline plane. Including flying DFW-AKL. They're far ahead of competitors on regionals on this front too. AA sucks at marketing but it is true. Delta advertises free wifi but they don't have it. United acts like they will have it but years away. Delta charges for it. Delta has wifi on some flights but, aside from the atlantic, limited wifi globally. United has "wifi" with promises years out of more. but nothing free today. and VERY little streaming today.

I love your website ben, but advertising for "years from now" seems absurd when there's a reality today that people can stream on AA today. They can't globally on DL or UA.

Let's evaluate wifi based on reality, not advertising to blogs.


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 Jim
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I was on DL to ICN a few weeks ago. They had "free wifi" but only in (roughly) North American airspace - once we got west of about Anchorage, no signal the rest of the way. (The crew did warn us of that when we boarded.)

Ironically, on the way back, I had a 359 with "non-upgraded" WiFi (i.e. where you have to purchase and/or have a TMobile account), and that worked the whole way with no issues.


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(@Plane Jane)
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"Delta, like American, has the Viasat solution for its longhaul WiFi fleet."

Try again, dumbass.
DL used them globally.
AA knew Viasat's limitations and thought about their customers. AA went with a different provider globally.
It's just Delta that can't give wifi to customers globally. AA can.


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Diamond
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and for AA WiFi you have to watch a commercial. It is not free.

and neither AA or any other airline other than B6 and DL offer free high speed WiFi.

and there are holes in AA's WiFi coverage just as there are for every other airline right now.


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Diamond
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AA cannot and will not be able to come up w/ free high speed WiFi using any satellite based solution and, most importantly, because AA does not value premium amenities which is why DL has been able to take so much revenue and market share from AA over the past 5 years.

Get back in your box, pain Jane.

You can't stand to admit that DL has already leapfrogged AA and will do the same for the entire global airline industry.


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(@Plane Jane)
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Standard Delta if you actually look at what they "have", vs their advertising. Delta does not have high speed wifi domestically (they purposefully don't with theirr own mainline flights and decisions) And it certainly is not free globally. Delta's own FA's whine about no wifi from Australia and NZ constantly if you know even a single one. Delta has no wifi for most everything except the atlantic, unlike AA and United.

It was a purposeful choice by Delta. Just like AA, they knew Viasat wouldn't haven wifi across the pacific for a LONG time. But delta chose this for their customers but again CHOOSES to advertise otherwise to their customers knowing their own lie.


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(@Plane Jane)
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you don't disappoint, tim
Yes. AA has wifi globally except russia where no one does.

FIND ME A SINGLE PLACE WHERE A MAINLINE PLANE ON AA does not have high speed wifi. vs DL.

AA actually does and planned for this. Delta advertises it but doesn't have it basically anywhere. domestically or globally.

Find a new trolling spot, tim. You're out of your element.


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(@Plane Jane)
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And no one said AA has free wifi.

Simply noting Delta doesn't either.
Delta still charges for wifi UNLESS you sign up for their mileage program and agree to give up your entire browsing history to people that Tim Dunn loves.

No one should think "free" is free when it is not.


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Diamond
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as usual, the only liar is you.

I just used WiFi on a DL flight to S. America and the crew members were using it too.

and, again, you can shout as long as you want but AA DOESN'T OFFER FREE WIFI ON A SINGLE AIRCRAFT AND HAS NO PLANS TO DO SO.

you are clearly desperately afraid that DL will steal even more of AA's premium passengers and revenue.

add in UA's efforts at AA house cleaning in Chicago and AA faced a challenging future even before yesterday at 4 pm eastern time.

WiFi is the least of AA's problems in a significantly reduced demand environment which is where the US airline industry is headed...which is probably why they have halted FA hiring.


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(@Eskimo)
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Tim,
as usual, the only liar is you.
Sadly you're only lying to yourself.

Customers and any flight crew flown that route before can confirm @Jim the wifi blackout on the new wifi 359 to ICN.


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Diamond
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so you attack DL because you have to sign up or use a SkyMiles number - which doesn't make it free - but then you tout AA's WiFi coverage which isn't free for anyone and includes ads.

Your a sick woman, pain in the backside Jane.

AA does not even have any intention of competing in the onboard amenities space w/ DL or UA. UA at least has aspirations.

and WIFi is the least of the airline industry's problems. Given AA's high debt and eroding market position, they are by far the most vulnerable US carrier right now....
but, by all means, attack DL's WiFi.

You are simply clueless.


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(@Plane Jane)
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you're so weird lol
I never said AA has free wifi.

Read. Loser.

I said AA has high speed wifi that works globally.

Delta does not and never has.

seriously, move outside Atlanta. The world is bigger than your prejudice and MAGA love.


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(@Eskimo)
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We know you are Tim Dunn's BA alter ego.


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(@Plane Jane)
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again. As much as you love to change the topic given your weird delusions.

Talk to me when Delta has global high speed wifi. Delta's own choices mean they don't have it domestically or globally.

AA does.

Go home, loser. Zocalo misses you.


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(@Plane Jane)
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get a life.
yes. you can get wifi on aa without ads.

your dedication to Delta is entertaining but you truly know NOTHING about flying other carriers. lol

yes. You can buy AA wifi without ads. You can also buy Delta wifi on high speed wifi equipped planes, on EVERY DELTA FLIGHT.

THERE IS NO DELTA FLIGHT WHERE BUYING WIFI IS NOT AN OPTION. Delta lets you buy wifi on EVERY flight with "Free wifi". The difference is what is done with your data.

Delta uses your data and sells it and... btw does not have high speed wifi on their fleet. Not an apology. They just don't. AA also already has high speed wifi on their regionals and more than DL.

But Delta and AA sell wifi on EVERY FLIGHT. the only difference is whether you agree to sell your browser history and cache history to Delta. AA doesn't ask that.

Find a new spot to troll. You're out of your depth.
But stop acting like delta offers "free" wifi when they sell your data if you agree to "free"


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Diamond
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I wasn't on the flight Jim said he was on.

I was on a DL widebody to S. America that DID have high speed Wifi.

You and everyone else that posts the nonsense you post do it ONLY because you can't stand to admit that DL is about ready to do in international markets to AA what it has done domestically.

Within WEEKS, DL will have free high speed WiFi across 90% of its network. The remaining domestic aircraft - 717s and large RJs - as well as the Pacific routes will have free high speed WiFi on one platform or the other not only by the end of the year but long before any other big 3 or large TPAC airline has it across the Pacific.

AA has NO commitment to free high speed Wifi and yet you and your pain in the backside sidekick is supposed to believe that AA's PAID Wifi over the Pacific is supposed to offset over 700 DL domestic aircraft that ALREADY have free high speed WiFi, that will grow by another 100 international a/c in a few weeks, and another 400 RJs will be added by the end of the year.

but go ahead and delude yourself that AA is a better WiFi proposition.


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Diamond
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the only one that is beyond clueless is you in thinking that AA's WiFi is better.

AA is so far behind the curve that they will never catch up.

and lack of a competitive WiFi strategy is just PART of WHY AA has fallen so far and so hard.

and the fall is not over. There are a whole lot of people in Center Pork that are scared to pieces right now. AA is HIGHLY vulnerable to a major downturn in airline revenues which could be happening.

but you are free to attack DL's WiFi when it is clear that AA totally missed the boat not just on WIFI but ensuring a viable future for the company.


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(@Plane Jane)
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Again, Tim

You pretend to be on flights that everyone knows you can't afford given your commenting fetish.
I admit, it's funny.

Talk to us when every Delta Flight to South America, Asia, and Oceania has wifi.

this is a norm on AA. Delta shouldn't deceive customers otherwise.

AA will be happy to wait until Delta actually has high speed wifi on every mainline flight, domestic and international.

Delta has NEVER had that. EVER.

come back to us when they do. 😉 This is cute aside from your idiocy.


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(@AeroB13a)
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You know more than me Gunga Din …. my ego took ‘flight’ when I gave up the cyclic and collective.
TD is probably less knowledgeable about rotary wing aviation.


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(@Plane Jane)
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you're fun.

"who cares about data" or actual high speed wifi on planes?
Data does. And that's AA. Delta simply does not. And it's an active Delta choice, (to use your drunk gay terms) "Dearie"

but Tim...
get a life, dude. lol

Having high speed wifi globally is a thing. Delta advertises it but only AA has it. But it's also very delta. Advertise what you don't have. Your competitor actually does have it. But you do not, but advertise it.
lol. so delta. no free wifi on delta network. no high speed wifi on delta' network. (never has been)

thanks. Go back to your hole. You make the conversation worse.


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(@Julie)
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you're staying up so late today, Aero. are you getting enough sleep, "aero"/tim?

this is getting tragic

Everyone knows this is you, tim


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(@Plane Jane)
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"AA does not even have any intention of competing in the onboard amenities space w/ DL or UA. UA at least has aspirations."

I'll bite.

Where does DL beat AA on this?

international? delta took out an ENTIRE drink service vs AA and DL to give a peach mimosa no one wants pre departure.

Delta meals are not any place in an example.

Delta used a bunch of poor mexican women to get rid of a good amenity kit on DL to make it SUPER cheap and tried to make it look like it wasn't a cost measure.

I mean, props. But Delta traded TUMI for a Chiapas amenity kit (very recently) and acted like it was a good thing for consumers.

People know.
Dleta is just a farce, just like you and your weird alter-egos, tim.
They can reply with 20,000 words within 2 minutes of you, but people know.

The irony is you still use the same alter egos a few days later...
you're the only one this stupid.


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(@AeroB13a)
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2005hrs here darlink, time for a ‘sherbet’ or two.


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(@Plane Jane)
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Tim's alter ego replying to defend delta. As much as Tim wishes, no Brit gives two F*cks about Delta or AA. Only in Tim's weird dreams. as shown here.

Nothing shows Tim's idiocy more than this.

Nice try, Tim.
you're stupid. no Brit cares about Delta like you do more do they use terms like "darlink" or "Sherbet" like you try.
When you try to use alter egos, try to limit your drunkness.

this is lame, even for you. go back to your liquor.


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(@AeroB13a)
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PJ, please be assured that an individual like you, who has more patter than the Chinese Army in flip-flops, will never, ever be accused of being a lady.
Therefore, if one were to apply to others the same assumptions that you have applied to Tim, then one could conclude that you are nothing less than an Eskimo clone, yes?


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Diamond
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the only one that is disturbed is someone that even THINKS that AA's WiFi is in any way superior to DL's.

The 4 people per flight that used AA's paid TPAC WiFi in 2024 doesn't come close to offsetting the benefits that DL's high speed FREE WiFi provided to over 100 million domestic passengers in 2024 and will be extended to tens of millions of TATL and Latin passengers by the end of the year.
And DL WILL get free high speed WiFi over the Pacific.

That anyone would pick a gnat off the back of an elephant and try to look for your own superiority at the expense of someone else that is far superior to what AA offers is beyond laughable.

It is clear that you and the rest of your ilk in Texas are beyond scared spitless at how much more revenue DL will manage to take from AA.


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(@Plane Jane)
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Again
Come back to the group when delta has high speed WiFi on every mainline plane globally
Your comical excuses are funny but just that; comical.

AA does. I can stream every mainline flight I have with them. And they’re well ahead of delta regionally on that front
Look to reality, not marketing. I wish AA did.

See you never, tim


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(@Julie)
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Hey tim/aero
You’re awake now?!
Tim, remember time zones before you reply with your guest account 😉 best to wait until 3am eastern at the best 😉

Your sleep schedule and posting is so weirdly aligned with tim Dunn
It must be exhausting 😉


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(@Plane Jane)
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“ the only one that is disturbed is someone that even THINKS that AA's WiFi is in any way superior to DL's.”

I have to admit I read this. Delta doesn’t have high speed WiFi domestically on their own fleet
Or installed on their international fleet
Or working on their international installed fleet lol

Jesus… you’re so stupid, tim lol

Where do you even come up with all this stupidity?

A drag queen could come up with better excuses
And she does 😉
The funny part is you’re gay

As you’ve brought up sooooo many times with your comments
(Don’t reply drunk with ‘Deary’ from midtown, “sweetie”)

But you’re maga lol
Get a life, loser
Enjoy MTG’S CrossFit class (though everyone knows you don’t ever go)


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(@AeroB13a)
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Unfortunately gross ignorance rules this particular topic.
It is such a shame that Ben is being used and his blog abused by revolting self proclaimed aviation geeks.
Clearly they only post herein to disseminate their vile rhetoric towards their more knowledgeable betters.
At times it has been amusing to belittle them, however, as they do not possess the intellect to recognise such, they are becoming so boring.


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 BZ
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Good news that Delta is not partnering with the fascist owned Starlink.


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Diamond
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Got a pic of a acars message for you little irrelevant delusional Tim

https://freeimage.host/i/35jPUJf


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Diamond
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Get back w/ us when American has FREE high speed WiFi on even its FIRST aircraft.

More passengers have logged onto DL's free high speed WiFi on DL's TWO mainline flights from ELP to ATL than on AA's pathetically small Pacific system which only boasts PAID WiFi and not even for all of the flight - because no WiFi solution currently works 100% of the time across the Pacific.

thank you for confirming that you are flamingly loyal to AA at the complete expense of truth and logic. I hope they pay you well


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Diamond
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AA doesn't offer a SINGLE flight on which it offers free high speed WiFi.

and you think for one minute that AA has any level of superiority?

take your meds.

You are clearly deathly afraid that DL will steal even more of AA's few remaining high value passengers - and your fear is based in reality.

You better hope Isom is placing a call to Trump to tell him to cool it; if not, AA will be circling the toilet by Labor Day


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Diamond
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AA are currently offering free WiFi in a test environment on;

The tests will be available on three flights: Between hub Charlotte Douglas International Airport in North Carolina and Raleigh-Durham International Airport; Charlotte and Jacksonville International Airport in Florida; and between Miami International Airport and Chicago O’Hare International Airport.


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Diamond
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Got a pic of a acars message for you little irrelevant delusional Tim

https://freeimage.host/i/35jPUJf


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Diamond
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none of which changes that Delta ALREADY has more airplanes equipped with free high speed WiFi than any other airline in the world, should complete the remaining aircraft by the end of the year, and will be the ONLY airline offering free high speed WiFi on all of their flights across the Atlantic and to Latin America in just a couple months.

You should be worrying about when AA management starts sending ACARS messages telling you that AA cannot survive the economic mess that is enveloping the world and will be filing chapter 11 or more appropriately it will be 33 or 44 and then be acquired by Alaska.

Consolidation is coming. AA is the weakest link. You want that partnership with AS? You'll get it... and center pork will become a museum


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(@Plane Jane)
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Lordy
Aren’t you sleepy?

Tim
Drink less


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(@Plane Jane)
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I’ll worry when delta figures out their Seattle hub sucks
Which everyone knows except tim Dunn and the airliners.net moderator staff, apparently, paid by delta corporate(it’s ok. You remnants can now admit delta pays for the website to pay you all )

If AS takes over AA…
Tim
That should be your worst nightmare.
AA already defeated delta in the SE,

United beat delta in the Midwest

A oneworld domestic carrier west of DFW all consolidated?

My goodness, Timmy delta would be relegated to Amsterdam and rusted America 😉
Careful what you wish for cup cake
Dreams can come true
Even yours
Delta has the worst cards of any carrier
And they know it. It’s why they constantly try to bug other airlines but no one wants to partner with delta’s failed codeshare model unless delta pays them billions


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(@Plane Jane)
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Funny this is posted hours ago but just put here.

aero isn’t a known poster because tim posted a drunk email address, rather than the usual fake email address. Aka. Aero is just a fake tim alter ego as most of us know

Because, tim, like his many alter egos exists in some weird world that is as real as Alice in wonderland
The only reality is that “tim” was fired by delta years ago and hates to admit it

Sleep tight, tim/aero
This is sad
As ever for you you, tim


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Diamond
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you can only wish that AA managed to figure out their west coast network - so you trash DL's SEA hub which is more than AA ever accomplished on the west coast - despite their drooling.

you truly do bad drugs.

AA is a distant second to DL in the SE other than in MIA. CLT is a disaster a day. No sane person wants to connect there - which is why connections via CLT are the cheapest. No wonder AA's margins are so much less than DL's.

DL's twin MSP and DTW hub strategy allows it to sweep every other airline. You are as ignorant as June 21 in northern Michigan is long if you think anyone other than DL owns the Midwest.

you spouted about how great AA's WiFi was on its ten flight TPAC network... and we end up w/ you sweating bullets that AS could relegate AA to a failed subsidiary just like HA.
Unlike Isom, Alaska will get rid of the fat and losing hubs - which means large parts of AA's network.

AA is by far the most vulnerable in the downturn that is on the way - and you want to tout the 4 people per flight that used AA's WiFi on its 10 flights/day across the Pacific?


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Diamond
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once again, you prove you have no clue how time stamps work esp. since it has been here for hours.

We get it... anyone that dares challenge the status quo is all the same person in your damaged mind.

now tell us again about the great WiFi experience for the 40 passengers/day on AA's TPAC network.
More people log onto DL's free high speed WiFi on its two ELP-ATL flgihts than on AA's entire TPAC network


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(@Eskimo)
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Again, I'm flying TPAC not El Paso.

And I can't use wifi at least half of the flight.

Now use 9 paragraphs to argue with me on El Paso or other fluff and ignore ICN flights with no wifi. GO.


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(@AeroB13a)
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TD, there is absolutely no point in responding to the gross ignorance of the PLAIN Jane Bot, that which is tagged Julie, Eskimo, Mason or Arps.
Not only are they undeniably ignorant about so many aviation matters, they are rude, crude and revoltingly disrespectful towards Ben and those who follow this blog with interest.
One is content that if human, they must be very little people of no consequence, with absolutely no interest to genuine readers.
That said many of us have enjoyed a grin at their expense, all be it a very pitiful grin.
The poor darlinks have obviously done nothing, been nowhere and can only dream of a better life in their pond …. a unicellular organism perhaps?
Regardless of the Miami time stamp applied to this post, I press send at 0747hrs GMT.


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(@AeroB13a)
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Yes Sir! It is a really messed up world in which we live.
The nonsensical world of American influence is contaminating the world.
Long live the American gun lobbyists who promote the killing of others gun touting mentally unstable people.
Long live the Central American drug lords who are turning the weak minded American population into feckless zombies.
Insanity is endemic in America, it pervades this website and has spread out into Asia too.
There is absolutely no hope for the inhabitants of this world whilst the insanity which is U.S. influence persists.
One just loves troll baiting.


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Diamond
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Considering how mentally sick you appear to be, I don’t think you go to a psychiatrist, but I imagine how your first session would be like:

“Hi doctor, I have a pathological fetish with and airline that fired me, I like to suck my own **** by creating fake profiles and complimenting my comments, I like to lie telling people that I’m onboard flights all the time, I’ve been banned from pretty much everywhere but I don’t think I’m a laughing stock, and in my mind people are interested in my completely rational analysis on aviation themes. Oh, and I’m easier to bait and made fun of than a 5 year old.”

The doctor: “I’m not equipped to deal with this.”


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(@Plane Jane)
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One day Delta will have high speed wifi on their planes.

Due to their own choices, they don't globally or domestically.

"free" is fun if you want to give delta your data. It isn't "free" when delta still lets you buy it on "free" flights to avoid giving delta your entire browsing history.


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(@Mason)
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@Plane Jane

You think that Tim Dunn is obsessed with Delta.
It's not wrong. And not the point either.

But you seems to be obsessed with Tim Dunn, posting a pointless reply to every comment he posted.
You're not any better than him.

OMAAT is really flooding with hypocrites these days.


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(@Mason)
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@AeroB13a

I'm surprised that you can make a good take.

Plane Jane is just a pure hypocrite, thinking she's better than Tim Dunn when she's acting the same way around or worse than Tim.

Of course, you'll act the same as two mentioned in a matter of time, when BA is mentioned, so don't take it personally.
Just saying that Plane Jane is a hypocrite. Say no more.


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(@Plane Jane)
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(Pretending to be Mr potato head for one of Tim’s fake profiles)

“Let me find my surprised eyes”

I’ll keep you and Tim’s opinions in mind.
Tim
Do better.


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(@Mason)
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@Plane Jane

Delta is the worst among the US big three carriers

Now hopefully you could use your brain, unlike AeroB13a, to conclude that I'm not Tim Dunn.
How unfortunate that your take was invalid. Better luck next time?


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(@Plane Jane)
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I don't think delta is the worst. But again. I'll keep your opinions in mind. And Tim's opinions.

I have no apologies for replying to Tim. it amuses me and he has no other life but to reply back.


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I miss the days when WiFi cost $5 on delta. Kept the bandwidth a bit more available when I needed it by having a slight barrier to entry. Starlink seems to be able to keep up with a full plane but Viasat cannot. Wish they offered a free and’ premium’ WiFi upgrade option


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Diamond
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That was Gary Leff's hot-take, too. He also preferred paying AA for WiFi, so that he'd have access, even if it meant others would not. (Or, do he/you just like denying others access... hmm.)

But, it's not 2015 anymore; we have better technology and should all be able to connect on-board, included with our ticket (no extra cost). Yet, some just can't let go of that feeling of exclusivity...


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Diamond
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Uh it’s called supply and demand. But sure twist the comment to give you an opportunity to claim moral superiority


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Diamond
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Nope, @JustinB. Your (and Gary's) preference for paywalls to keep other passengers off bad internet isn't basic economics. It's worse: artificially restricting supply and demand. So, you're just sane-washing outdated tech and carrying water for lazy corporate executives who would rather charge extra to ration bad Wi-Fi than actually upgrade their ancient infrastructure. C'mon, man. Fight for the users, for once.


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1990 says, "It's worse: artificially restricting supply and demand. So, you're just sane-washing outdated tech and carrying water for lazy corporate executives who would rather charge extra to ration bad Wi-Fi than actually upgrade their ancient infrastructure."

Do you ever consider that these might be difficult technical issues delivering high speed Wifi to an aircraft moving .85 mach at 37,000 all around the world? Or how complicated airline operations themselves are? If only it was as easy as sitting on your couch and pontificating about a myriad of issues most of us know nothing about.

Starlink is the only provider offering low-earth orbit, high-speed, low latency airline Wifi at scale, and that is no mean feat nor is it inexpensive. It is also new to the scene and working around the clock to satisfy the almost limitless demand for hardware and bandwidth. A modicum of modesty and respect, much less awe, for the miracle that is airline travel and high-speed airline Wifi would not be out of order.


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@rebel You're always welcome to repeat what I already said. Nice try moving goal-posts, though. Modern satellite tech is literally rocket science, but the engineering is not the bottleneck. Better technology exists, and passengers are right to demand that airlines adopt it. Ironically, it is airline executives (and their online sycophants) that are the 'boardroom chair pontificators,' here. Time to stop being cheap, start implementing reliable services.


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To say you are clueless regarding the realities of the technological, supply chain and financial challenges involved would be restating the blatantly obvious.


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@rebel "Hard things are hard." Mhm. And yet, I shouldn't need to remind you, of all people, that if United can figure out the technology and supply chain, there's no reason to make excuses for the airlines falling behind.


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United announced Starlink years ago and won’t have any international region turned on completely until next year at a minimum. In contrast, Delton has had the Atlantic and South America turned on for a couple of years and has now completed transpacific. There are about 57 one sevens and a few sky West RJ’s that are not complete yet which is why they say an early 2027 completion. RJ’s that are not complete yet which is why they say an early 2027 completion. The Hughes Wi-Fi on other RJ’s is very fast. There will be no advantage because of speed for the vast majority of consumers. Delta will have completed global Wi-Fi before any other US airline and certainly any comparably sized airline, including Singapore.


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I recently flew DL TATL and had no connectivity whatsoever for most of the trip. I don't know if the routing had anything to do with that but we flew very far north, which could have made a difference.


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DELTA IS OVER OVER RATED!


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Is it me or did delta.com remove their WiFi coverage map?
That seems quite convenient


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I have been loyal to Delta for over 20 years and still think their overall experience beats any other US airline. However, their WiFi is leaving a lot to desire. I work from home and my work has changed dramatically in the last few years. So after not flying Delta for a while, last week I flew MSP-LHR-MSP and then MSP-MIA-MSP all within 5 days. The overall experience was still great but on all 4 flights, the internet experience was abysmal. In all flights the WiFi was free for Medallion members but it was basically useless. First, it was impossible to connect. You would select the DeltaWiFi but the browser never opened automatically. So you had to type the address to get it. 9 out of 10 times, I would enter my SkyMiles account and password, bowers would spin forever and give me an error. No, it was not me entering the wrong information, the system was broken. Then when it connected, it would work for a few minutes and then no signal. On one of the flights, I went to ask the FA if internet was down and he said "ohh, it is because we are over the ocean." BS! I told him we were literally 1 hour from landing at MSP so we were actually over the US and he stayed quiet. Same thing happened on the flights to and from MIA. Internet was very spotty and impossible to do any work on the plane. Overall, it was almost the same as not having WiFi at all.


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Funny because I generally find DL's wifi to be slow but I just flew r/t JFL-LHR and was surprised at how reliable and efficient it was. To your point about logging in, I fly DL a ton and I find that I almost always have to go in and "forget" the network when it auto connects to it in order for the login page to load, but other than that no issues at all. I love OMAAT and I know people care about different things, but I find the Wifi on planes discussion to be completely overblown. What happened to the good ol' days of disconnecting for a few hours? Plus now there are tons of articles lately about people taking zoom calls etc and driving other passengers nuts. No thanks.


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Yes, I always "forget" the network no matter what but even doing that didn't bring the login page to load. I agree with you on "disconnecting for a few hours" BUT now that you have WiFi, you may make choices based on that availability. In my case, I had something important to deal with and if I knew there wouldn't be WiFi on the plane I would have probably stayed a bit longer in London to get that sorted instead of getting into the plane. So for almost 8 hours I had no WiFi while I knew a lot was happening while I was offline. Sure enough, 30 minutes before landing, WiFi finally connected and I had over 100 messages on my phone which triggered me to have to book a MSP-MIA-MSP flight on the spot and when landing at MSP, instead of going home I simply walked to a new gate to catch the flight to MIA.


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Have you seen an oncologist lately? Because the only reason I can think of to stay loyal to the evil Delta is a malignant brain tumor.


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Not a funny comment. When you live in a Delta hub and when you care about your family, flying non stop to spend less time away from your family becomes a priority. That's my case.


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Leave Delta alone! (lol) The airline is obviously doing something right to be so profitable. It has been for some time now. When United and American have more than a couple of planes done to the new standard and have tamed their often surly flight attendants then you can brag.


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You haven't taken into account the deal with Satan Richard Anderson made. That has to have an expiration date. And you're complaining about UA and AA flight attendants? Delta both trains and recruits theirs from women's prisons.


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"When United and American have more than a couple of planes done to the new standard"

United has Starlink wifi on half its flights and 650 aircraft.

https://starlinktracker.united.com/program/starlink


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Yeah
This is about delta catching up

United is cruising past everyone within the year.
AA already has (and has for some time now) more planes with free high speed WiFi than delta and has long had global internet coverage, like United.
Both have had the best available technology to provide global internet and, unlike delta anytime soon, are already moving to the next high speed frontier.


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Free WiFi is great if it works. I generally have no problem texting with iMessage or WhatsApp, but I'm hard pressed to find any aircraft where I can actually VPN into work and *do* work. Our company runs solely on Google suite and on internal tools, so there's not much I can do without internet. Delta's WiFi outside of texting has been pretty useless for me in nearly all cases. And as a remote worker dual-homed in Europe and the US, staying connected is crucial so I don't have to take PTO days for traveling TATL. Delta misses the mark on this aspect. Looking forward to more TATl trips on UA until Delta gets up and running with LEO. Which won't be for a long while given LEO's current state.


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This works for me on Starlink


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The speed is amazing, but the best thing about Starlink is that it always works and logging in takes seconds. There is no comparison between Starlink and last gen systems. You don't appreciate how bad the old crap was until you use Starlink.


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The problem is not the wifi speed. The problem is that Delta has associated its brand with "premium". Starlink is premium. Viasat is not. So the idea that Delta's two main US competitors are associating themselves with the premium brand, and Delta is crossing its fingers hoping that Amazon's wifi will work in 2028/2029 is odd. And Amazon is many things, but it's hardly thought of as premium.


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By this blog’s logic on United's upcoming Starlink edge over Delta, Delta leading the Wi-Fi rollout right now should put every competitor out of business by next month. All clickbait.

Has anyone been able to try out the upgraded bandwidth on Delta planes yet for Viasat? I think it is supposed to roll out over Q4. I'm hoping it improves performance noticeably.


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There’s not much unique about delta is announcing
AA already has more planes with free high speed WiFi and AA and United have long had global WiFi, unlike delta.
Why would delta get an advantage to be second place especially when they’re announcing a product that’s dated, unlike AA and United.


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Although Delta is annoying in their "premium messaging "and that messaging doesn't always align with reality, why does United not get held to the same standard? They are beyond arrogant these days.


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Other than the absolutely ridiculous account of bloggers, like yourself, no one cares about starlink or Viasat or LEO. Most people need a connection so that can work on there computers or chat and text. Viasat does that. Take a chill pill guy.


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Southwest and United have more PREMIUM internet rollouts than Delta. I'm shocked Delta even mentions internet because it is that bad.


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 Gene
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90%+ of people don't care. You do not need to be connected constantly. Relax a little. If Starlink was $100/ flight, who would buy it?


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I recently refused to pay €30 for internet on a 9-hour flight where my ticket would've easily cost €2k if it hadn't been an award redemption. It's a good opportunity to disconnect and maybe read a physical book.


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Quite simply and sadly I believe that Delta is making a huge mistake by not choosing Starlink.
As others have stated and I agree Viasat is not premium and Leo is a long way off and not proven.
I chose Delta often but I am seeing chinks in it's " Premium" armor.


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Come on Delta. Even Frontier chose Starlink.


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and evidence increasingly shows that Musk was directly involved in attempting to influence the outcome of the Russia-Ukraine war by manipulating the speed at which Starshield worked.

No, thanks. no amount of extra WiFi speed is acceptable for someone that puts an entire country and its valiant people at the risk of death to try and reduce petroleum prices that would be a lot lower if the US and Europe had given Ukraine the tools to win the war years ago.

and WiFi along w/ anything else doesn't change the reality that the entire industry except for DL is far weaker because of high fuel prices because DL has a credible way to manage at least part of the high cost of fuel which the rest of the industry cannot do. AS and UA's financial results yesterday prove both are weaker companies than they were a year ago and the trend will continue as AA, WN and other airlines report.

WIFI simply does not matter when a single competitor is financially stronger.


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If WiFi doesn't matter then Delta should remove it completely from all their planes. It would reduce weight and save fuel.

Delta no mas premium.


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It is good to have free WiFi for long haul international flights. Props to Delta.


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Any corporation tying any service delivery to Elmo Musk is doing so at their peril. As long as a drug-addicted manage-by-mood sociopath is leading any company, there can be no operational predictability, nor any reliance on contracts (he can afford to breach any and all of them), and his boards are comprised of yes-men and women.


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The U.S. should nationalize Starlink.


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I like the wi-fi onboard certain aircraft!


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