British Airways recently began installing Starlink Wi-Fi, which is an exciting development, given that it will eventually unlock fast and free Wi-Fi throughout the carrier’s fleet. While this is great news on the surface, British Airways has one surprising policy that’s sure to delight some, and upset others.
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This will go over AWFULLY. I for one will not be pleasant if the guy behind me is on a call on an overnight flight.
Most people on flights have noise cancelling headphones. This typically does NOT lead to people speaking softly. In fact they usually amp up their voice volume. I would avoid BA at all costs on any overnight flight.
Last thing I want on a plane are people making calls over Teams and FaceTime. Even worse without headphones. Will be avoiding BA.
While I agree that this will probably annoy more than benefit, I think there might be an opportunity for planes with Starlink WiFi to start introducing call booths in non-usable spaces (potentially even as an ancillary and charging for use?) maybe in an area where the ceiling's too low, or perhaps not enough space for a third lavatory?
If anyone with more airline business knowledge can tell me that this is a terrible idea I'd love to hear why!
It's a bit the same topic as allowing kids at luxury resorts.
It's all down to self disciplined. I once took a conference call using BA's wifi (which for once was surprisingly fast), I didn't feel like I was disturbing anyone, because I was keeping myself quiet enough.
I swore off BA years ago, and this only reinforces my decision. Crap airline with a crappy hub.
"If we see widespread acceptance of inflight calls, I can’t help but think that this could turn out to be one of the next big areas of contention between passengers, and leads to some inflight kerfuffles."
Ya' think? You want to talk about the future reasons for a spike in air rage incidents, imagine someone who paid for a first class ticket having to listen to some self-important asshole talking at a rock-concert-level volume on a 16-hour flight. That won't end well.
93 percent of the traveling public are traveling on business. This needs to happen on so many levels.
"93 percent of the traveling public are traveling on business."
Source please.
Because you pulled that number from your butt.
I don't think they're selling this to the public. For certain companies with a certain type of management this might be a game changer in which airline they choose to put their employees on.
I will say though calling on the bus and subway and in elevators isn't prohibited and the vast, vast majority of people I see calling in these environments keep it to very reasonable levels. By mandating headphone use, I don't think this would be that different than people talking to their seat neighbors midflight.
When I travel on business, 100% of betterbubs are traveling on business. When I travel for leisure, the number drops to 0%.
Ugh. I wish we had some nice US--> Europe 5th freedom flights from JAL and ANA
If they are adding WiFi calling they should also add headphones must be used to make or receive calls. Failure to do so could get you removed.
Luckily, I don't see any US domestic airline stupid enough to do this. Unless they can make some serious profit margin off it.
I suspect this may lead to what are on many trains, quiet cars or quiet sections, this way people who want to talk can and those who prefer quiet get their desire. It does seem to work well on trains.
But BA makes already announcements pre-departure, saying calls are not permitted!
Been in an airline lounge lately? There's already some self important asshole screaming at top lungs to his overworked, underpaid underlings. Not to mention those screaming to Jethro or Tawakia back home they're in an airport lounge and the booze is free. Now multiply that times 100.
this will be coming to other airlines precisely, as Ben notes, because technology now supports it.
Business people do not want to have to disconnect; they may choose to disconnect but they do not want to be forced to = and airlines make money because people want to be on their planes.
While some were so worked up about trying to think that UA would somehow trump DL because of DL's announcement of Amazon Leo, the more enlightening part of DL's statement is that they may consider not completely blocking all types of calls it presently blocks.
It is very possible to participate in a zoom call w/o saying much; it is also possible to speak quietly - but many people do not even when they are on the ground.
I am not looking forward to the day that any US airline allows any kind of voice communication over WiFi but take comfort that you can control that stuff in general aviation esp. when my voice communication involves talking to ATC and I can turn off the voice communications of everyone else in the plane - at least what goes into my headset
Playing devils advocate- Is this really more disrupting that two passengers talking to each other in a loud manner?
The issue isn’t just the volume, some languages are naturally more harsh and vicious. Arabic and German cannot sound polite they are by nature crude. Your frequent and colorful use of curse words shows somebody who was raised to fly economy.
@Joe Good point, but given recent content decisions here with lowbrow clickbait reposts from other blogs have become standard practice. April Fools' is becoming all year.
Trevelinwilly- maybe not all flights but a lot of flights more than exceed 93 percent. So no, I am not just making up numbers! Business travel is what airlines count on to make a profit.
Nope, not at all. If the calls are business related then it’s a must in today’s business climate.
Which they won't be able to as a condition of Starlink is that it is provided on a free to use basis in all cabins on an aircraft. Which going back to your original point is probably why such is absent
I'm BA's case they have announced that alongside commentary that the use of headphones will be strictly monitored. How that pans out IRL remains to be seen of course
Trevelinwilly- maybe not all flights but a lot of flights more than exceed 93 percent. So no, I am not just making up numbers! Business travel is what airlines count on to make a profit
"...some languages are naturally more harsh and vicious. Arabic and German cannot sound polite they are by nature crude."
"Harsh?" "Vicious?" "Crude?" Your grasp of English word meaning is poor. Try words like "glottal" and "choked."
"Your frequent and colorful use of curse words shows somebody who was raised to fly economy."
Fuckin' right.
"Trevelinwilly- maybe not all flights but a lot of flights more than exceed 93 percent. So no, I am not just making up numbers! Business travel is what airlines count on to make a profit"
I repeat: Source please.
And you switched from citing the number of flyers to profit amounts. Moving the goal posts isn't a good faith gesture in conversation. Investopedia notes that 12% of flyers are business travellers, just btw. You can Google revenue figures on your own.
But in an airport lounge one can always move, or leave if the lounge is (very likely) too crowded.
There's no place for relief on a plane.
If they don't want to disconnect, then they should stay home. Most of these jerks are traveling for reasons unrelated to business ("working" remotely, wink, wink -- ever been to Costco on a Friday afternoon when all the remote workers are shopping?) or traveling on unnecessary business travel. They do not have the right to make life miserable for everyone else. Make your obnoxious, unproductove conference calls on the ground, period.
If any airline out there has FAs who WILL step in and politely - but firmly - request that a pax STFU on a video call, it’s the Good People of BA.
I’ve yet to meet a cab driver who doesn’t talk on the phone for my entire trip…
Kind of demonstrates how leaders of this airline are completely unfamiliar with running a free market business with a demographic of passengers that mixes the lowest rabble with the polite masses as in the US. Says to me BA would get its ass handed to itself on a plate if they ever hand to compete with airlines like our companies have to with the ULCCs. Yeah Ryan Air and EasyJet still cater to the mainstream much like BA does on the British Isles and Ireland fortunately… but lets face it, their mainstream and our mainstream ULCC passengers are NOT the same culture by any circumstance.
HELL NO to calls in flight. Our people in the USA cannot even board the plane without and expletive much less talk on a phone without and expletive.
I find it funny how almost no one ever talks about how noisy it is on jets just from the engines. On a 787, the average interior noise level is about 80 dB. That is about the same level of noise as standing on a busy street corner in NYC. In that context, exactly how disruptive would a person talking on the telephone be on a flight? Not alot. Provided they are wearing headphones.
“Provided they are wearing headphones”
Which cave have you been hiding in for the last decade??
Good to know.. was considering trying BA over AA once they improve Business Class out of Miami. Now I won't.. no need to be subjected to everyone else's conversation.
Someday, not even First will save you from people talking in video calls while you're asleep. Might as well use noise canceling headphones!
Someday, not even First will save you from people talking in video calls while you're asleep. Might as well use noise canceling headphones!
Another very big reason to avoid one of the worst global airlines in the world.
I thought the policy was there to protect the satellite phone business. Some planes have those at every seat though I never used it.
Sadly, this does not appear to be an April Fool's joke. Oh well, BA already sucked anyway. This will just be one more reason to never fly them again.
"If the calls are business related then it’s a must in today’s business climate."
What happened that made this a "must" in today's business climate that didn't make it a must in the business climate 10 years ago?
Let's guess: You're a 13-year-old in mom's basement playing businessman?
Why would random cell phone calls go into your pilot's headset? The frequencies are different.
A constant droning noise and nowhere near as disruptive as someone's conversation.
Oh goodie, can listen to a life loser now talk all flight about his next PowerPoint for his corporate overlord.
If you're so vitally important to the functioning of the business that you must be in voice-call range at all times, then you won't be flying commercial.
Well done Hugh …. you noticed my digit boomer too. I only noticed after posting …. 🙂
1990Bot, you post so authoritatively and yet you will not give any evidence of your knowledge base. Why should anyone trust your opinion?
A fair question …. Yes?
Straight on my no fly list. Not that it's a big loss, I was avoiding that crap airline on long haul for a good decade. They used to be a very good choice for European businesses though.
Ugh, people who feel that much need to babble on their phones (that they would do it mid-flight) are not going to have an iota of self-awareness.
With modern bluetooth devices, there's no reason to even raise your voice, but most of them are half yelling normally, even when there's not a lot of background noise to encourage it. On an airplane, they will be shouting...This will suck.
…. and your best picks, from personal experiences, are? …. total silence I’ll bet!
This is a deal breaker. Typical of the horrible British Airways.
If an airline allows passengers to use a cellphone during a flight, I will never fly again. Simple.
Equinox Gym: " please be respectful and not use your cellphones".
NO ONE listens to the signs on the walls.
True. I actually think that people speak louder with earbuds- and not to mention when they use speaker phone.
True. I actually think that people speak louder with earbuds- and not to mention when they use speaker phone.
APRIL FOOLS!
Hell in the sky!!! It’s bad enough in coffee shops, public transport and as mentioned by another reader airport lounges, but at least although really annoying you still have the option to move away if needed. What do you do in a confined space, on a full flight on a night intercontinental flight with people deciding they want to catch up with friends & family in all sorts of time zones or conducting business calls at the top of their voice..The idea of people being considerate is either genuine or gaslighting at its best.
Assuming this wasn't just clickbait April Fool's, the idea of calls on planes is horrific.
If I want to listen to 5 self-important idiots yammering around me I can ride the bus. But at least on the bus I can change seats, or worst-case maybe change buses. The thought of being stuck over the ocean for hours with blowhards is horrific!
oh yeah... can't wait. Not. I've done a few video conferences on planes with wifi. Put on headphones and type my comments. But talking... hell no.
I once had an influencer recording comments on her phone for an entire transcon. That was, apparently, OK because there wasn't anyone on the other end. She was just talking loudly into her phone. It was awful.