A reader forwarded me a story from CrownHeights.info which I'm just sort of at a loss of words over. It's a story about a 22 year old woman who was returning from Israel on Transaero. One of the (many) problems with the story is that she's not actually sharing the story, but instead her father,…
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I thought Israel is so concerned about its citizens security that it wont let them board an unsafe aircraft,dont know what to say but am a bit reluctant to believe such major problem wouldnt have been detected by ground maintenance,pilots,or aircraft computer but just by a passenger,and was this mentioned anywhere???hard to believe sorry.
Well, at least the rabbi's daughter wasn't traveling on a private jet funded by donations extorted from the synagogue membership...
@me, not so sure about your comment. To me it sounds like the first commenter was quite legitimately expressing a healthy dose of skepticism. Granted his first sentence had a bit of a sarcastic tone, but we all do it regularly about other countries or entities, and no one considers that hate. You, on the other hand, simply looked at the person's name and immediately labeled it as hateful. I'm not sure which of these would qualify as the real "hate".
Why is it relevant that this woman's father is a Rabbi? Was it really necessary to mention that part? Not sure if you are consciously being antisemitic, but regardless the implied bigotry in this posting is pretty thinly veiled.
@ J -- Huh? I was quoting the article: "Her father, Rabbi Kalman Weinfeld, related the story to CrownHeights.info."
Was the "implied bigotry" also "thinly veiled" in the Crown Heights article, or just mine?
lol @ J, wtf? I have pretty finely-tuned bigotry detectors and this post didn't set any off.
Color me confused as well. Not seeing the hate, just the WTF. Kind of an odd post, though. Has the feel of a "and this one time, at band camp" story.
Sorry - correction - it was reported. http://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/274279 (Hebrew), The story seems to be based on a phone call with the happy father, and says that the airline sent a 747 the next day to pick up the passengers, the daughter has already returned to her day job in a NYC school..
The original article has posted an update with a comment from the Israel Airports Authority about the flight, also there are comments that flightaware proves the story happened with the flight being cancelled and the aircraft that was to operate the flight not having operated any flights since that date...
@ J - I can only hope you are talking about the Chinese Lady with Montblanc pen.... If so, well done and I got a great laugh. If not, get some help.
@lucky - isn't the greater question when you are going to fly Transaero Imperial Class?
Ben,
I think I speak for a lot of us here when I say you've gotta start fact checking some of these posts. I get the whole stream of consciousness thing but that doesn't completely excuse you from journalistic ethics.
Transaero says they determined there was an issue that led them to cancel as a result of standard preflight checks, not a hysterical woman.
http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/480607/transaero-airlines-responds-to-viral-story/
"I think I speak for a lot of us here when I say you’ve gotta start fact checking some of these posts. I get the whole stream of consciousness thing but that doesn’t completely excuse you from journalistic ethics."
@Ben -
It sounds like David thinks you're a journalist who needs to fact check all articles you link to.
It sounds like David doesn't realize this is a blog, where the owner is free to post his personal musings, stories he finds funny, interesting, amusing, or weird without carrying out interviews with the characters described in the stories to which he links.
Perhaps someone needs to remind David of that.
That's the journalistic part.
No idea where his beef with "ethics" comes in here. Keep up the good work, please.
@David, I think Ben couldn't have been any clearer about his opinion on the story. Not sure how you could remotely perceive that it was presented as fact.
@David don't be ridiculous, this isn't the Wall Street Journal or any other news site, and Ben isn't a journalist.
The article is accurate. I live in Israel and know 2 people on the plane and it pretty much happened the way the father described. It's not AT ALL a surprise that this aircraft had issues, too many stories and warnings from travelers flying with this company.
Also, both Ben Gurion Airport in Israel as well as TransAero both have issued a formal statement confirming the incident and problem with the aircraft. They were sent home because Israel has a no fly time between 2 and 5 am and the situation had extended to this no fly time.
http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/480381/lubavitcher-woman-saves-entire-airplane/
I actually got a big laugh at the comments as our comedian fans of Friends did a good job. Go to the original article and check out the comments. If you haven't watched the old show "Friends", then you won't understand the comments. It's one of the few American shows that has been airing on a continuous basis here in Israel for about 10 years now :).
Not seeing any IRROPS on FlightAware:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/TSO312
I'm not buying the story.
Thanks for the link AlexS, but how on earth are you NOT seeing IRROPS there? There's a daily B738 operating this flight until the date in question in the story (the 12th) which has NO flight! The day after that it's a B744. To me that says something happened on the 12th and the flight was cancelled.
True you can't really verify the story and even though people on the plane are supposedly backing up the girl's claims. And there's no way the airline will admit that's what happened, even if it's true.
But i'm kinda leaning towards the story being true.
100% true been there on the flight in the first class product they have never again with them!
If you are looking for hatred do it somewhere else don''t shit where you drink