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Some Interesting Priority Pass Insights

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The Chase Sapphire Reserve Card was introduced in August 2016, and has quickly become one of the most popular premium credit cards on the market. Chase reached their 12 month sales goal on the card within two weeks, which shows how unbelievably popular the card has been.

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(@Justin)
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@Lucky: "it’s grossing over $2.6 million in sales per year." You make an error in your calculations there as the data table provides 18-months of sales. For the 12-month period through to Dec-2017, the actual sales were $1,940,948. So annual sales according to the data is actually just less than $2mn.


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(@keitherson)
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It's not about money, it's about crowding. People go to lounges to escape the crowds, not be eating finger food in a cafeteria hall with every Priority Pass user and their dog with access.

The airlines are just as complicit for selling memberships: Qantas Pubs and so forth. The US3 lounges are total zoos.


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@ Justin -- Fixing that now, whoops!


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(@Jimmy Gottfredson)
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The CLUB at PHX is my least favorite lounge in the US. Small, overcrowded and bathrooms aren’t connected to the lounge. After 1 visit I do not plan on going back. Thank goodness for the Admrils Club.


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 Alex
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I’ve had priority pass for many years, and used it exactly once. Ironically, for this very lounge some time in 2016. However, I used my Citi Prestige for access at the time since I had no CSR yet.

As someone who only flies premium internationally and rarely connects for domestic, priority pass is basically useless. The only time I see using it is during delays when they get super crowded anyway.


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 K
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@keitherson "People go to lounges to escape the crowds, not be eating finger food".

This isn't really true anymore - if you want to escape the crowds, it is very easy to find an empty gate area with charging ports and airport wifi (or browse your phone with data).

It might have been true in the days of business folks visiting lounges, but now people want to "maximize" the $450 sapphire or $550 amex fees, and the way to maximize it is to make sure you have a light meal at the lounge in lieu of airport/airline food. My typical visits to the lounges are for a quick bite before going to the gate area to sit in peace.


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(@Bryan)
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My primary airport is PDX. PP is an absolute no-brainer there given the options that you get. Only one true "lounge", but the food choices at the restaurants are an amazing value.


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 Asdf
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Club at PHX is a great case study because it is, um, extremely average. I am among those numbers in the chart. I trekked across PHX from my gate to check it out, last year sometime, and the long walk to get to elbow people for a free yogurt just wasn't worth it.


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 Jim
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While I agree with the general sentiment of the article, several of your arguments are not supported by the data on close inspection. For example, you stated that the large increase in Oct 2016 must be due to the Sapphire Reserve card.

Notice that October 2017 also had a large jump in the number of customers. And that most of the large increase is only offsetting the *decrease* in visitors during the summer of 2017. The Sapphire Reserve card cannot explain this. I'm more inclined to think that the large month-to-month changes are mainly the result of cyclical seasonal variation, above a more slowly increasing long-term trend.

For the same reason, it's misleading to point out the doubling in visitors between July 2016 and Dec 2017. July seems to be a low season summer month, and December is a peak winter month. A more meaningful comparison would be between Dec 2016 and Dec 2017, which show a much smaller 49% increase (smaller, but still significant).

My hypothesis may be strengthened if the total passenger numbers for each of those months also show these seasonal ups and downs. This can probably be found online somewhere


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 erie
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I agree with other with not so good experiences with The Club at PHX. We used The Club at PHX twice last year while flying Southwest from So Cal to Texas. The lounge was very crowded, very limited snacks (pretzel bar mix, veges sticks and etc.) both time. Still better options than sitting by the gate and paying $7 for a bottled water. Priority Pass through CSR will limit the number of guest per member to two guests starting in late August, I hope the lounge will be less crowded.


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(@Sean S.)
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Increasingly to some degree lounges are being outpaced by restaurants and areas in the general airport. With the increase in local and more innovative options and concepts at many airports, and newer, refurbished terminals, it is debatable how long lounges make much sense. The exception I see to this is First Class lounges, such as the Admiral Dining, or the Concorde Room, where there is actual sit down dining and in many cases faster security and premium access to your plane.


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(@Jason)
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Keep in mind that BA added an additional flight around mid 2017 departing from the gate next to the lounge. I am sure that contributed to an increase in usage as well.


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(@Dudeabides)
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I have definitely noticed an uptick in lounges that take PP. As an relatively "early" adopter of first Lounge Club, and then Priority Pass, the lounges I frequented use to be mostly business/first class users. Now it seems vast majority of visitors in a lounge are utilizing PP. One example is KAL lounge at LAX. There's a line 30-50 deep waiting for Priority Pass access which starts at noon.


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 JJJ
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My last flight through Phoenix departed right next to this club, at an outdoor gate where you walk to your plane. So that was nice.


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(@Vet&Banker)
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"Lounge whiners" (my term) seem to argue from a position that "specialness" always cuts off just behind them. Thus, lounges now suck, not because they were allowed in, but because "everybody else" is. Of course, the people before them who saw the whiners arrive also probably thought the proletariat was coming in and ruining the exclusiveness of lounges too.

If exclusivity or the need for an empty table are your requirements, simply pay for a membership to the US3 lounges (which do not allow PP members), get a co-branded CC for access, or fly enough for that access. If that's beyond your ability or your preference, then maybe you aren't as "special" as the lounges require.


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(@Priya Florence Shah)
Joined: 8 years ago

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I love my PP card. Makes long layovers so much more bearable. And short waits in hot, muggy airports too. So glad I started using it.


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(@Aztec)
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Lucky, if the number of BA passengers is greater than 50 then the number of PP customers DECREASES; it does NOT increase.


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(@DannyD)
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Chase Saphire Reserve PP limit to only 2 guests starting August, no more unlimited guests . 2 is quite low, I think 4 is perfect.


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(@Asian Miler)
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I may have elite status that gets me access to alliance or airline lounges, but it's a great deal using PP in Asia when you can book LCC tickets and *still* get access. Priority Pass is such a blessing, it gives me more choices.


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(@Scott Schultz)
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@Lucky

I’m sure I’m behind the curve than most on this site and you’ve probably posted before, your thoughts about getting either the AMEX Platinum or the Chase Sapphire Reserve. Is one better than the other? Thanks!!


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 Jay
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Never mind a priority pass lounge. If you want overcrowded and a fight for a seat / drink & food then by pass PP all together and go directly to the Amex lounge in SYD. OMG, what an ‘ experience ‘


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(@Justin)
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I like the PP perk that comes with my Citi Prestige, but I don't think I would pay for it on my own if I didn't have the credit card. I travel about 4-5 times per year on leisure but roughly half of the flights will be in business class and half in economy. So, I probably use the PP card for my partner and I maybe half a dozen times/year.


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 Joe
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You should see the club in Las Vegas. Smaller than my apt and fewer snacks than a homeless shelter.


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 Matt
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PP access is being limited more and more. It is not unusual to be refused entry. Limiting number of guests is also now being an issue. What happened to unlimited with this card? The PP site has aIot of clubs with limitations. I too would not personally pay for a PP card.


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 Matt
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Just read that come August only 2 guests allowed. Each additional is $27. They giveth then taketh!


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