United Airlines Claims India Job Postings Were Error

TAKE THAT DOUBTING TURDS

Lol. United got caught red handed. This is one good thing about social media. In the past, these kind of things would go unnoticed. At the same time though, social media had caused more divide in American society than good imo. The genie is out of the bottle and it’s never going back! Just watch those job boards.... once United get their money from US government, I have no doubt they will start posting those jobs again in India! Lol

To somewhat defend myself, clearly the postings were deliberate. I meant error in timing. Perhaps these were not supposed to have gone up until CARES actually expired. Either way, I personally believe United knew exactly what it was doing and agree with your take on the situation. Pretty stupid to think this would go unnoticed...

*insert meme ref of iCarly*
everyone: Umm, what you've got there?
United with their outsourcing plan: a smoothie

@ Ben -- "I mean, is that something we really need to speculate about? “Oh man, I just hate when job postings randomly show up on our website that we didn’t intend to post,” said no one ever."

Thanks, I needed a good ROFL today.

So you're fine with a US company sending jobs overseas?

So you are fine with adding to US unemployment rolls?

So you must then be fine with the various levels of government loosing tax revenue that pays for your public services?

About time the US stopped giving tax allowances to companies that do this sort of thing and change the economics of offshoring.

United is simply doing some damage control. United will continue working to outsource jobs once the issue is no longer in the spotlight.

@ ChrisC - Exactly!

RACKMETRO - bingo. The mistake was that this wasn't the right moment to post the jobs. Wait 6 months, retry. If it fails, call it another mistake.

@Ben Respectfully, I'm confused by your attempt at impartiality with claiming "I don't care about Globalization", yet clearly you DO care for the two people you know who have lost their jobs. Perhaps you don't want to offend your international readers with nationalism, but I find it hard to believe you'd fault someone from abroad wanting their own community to stay in tact and vibrant. American workers should care about this. Americans should care if a neighbor's job is moved overseas. We should want success in our communities and country. Jobs do matter, esp when unemployment has spiked. If not, one day we will all wake up and realize we are living in a waste land devoid of skills, knowledge and ultimately opportunity. (I'm from Detroit and know what off shoring does.)

Error. Yea I'm sure it was an error.....

The error is absolutely in getting caught.

My contact at United Network Planning told me that they got rid of the entire data team supporting NP department in Chicago, including director all the way down to analyst level.

So it’s no surprise that they’re offshoring those data science positions to India for a fraction of the cost

Airlines are disgusting swamp creatures, all of them (Southwest maybe less so). They treat customers so poorly in the good times, wring more and more revenue out of them while simultaneously “enhancing” their service offering downward. They reward shareholders above all else including employees and customers alike through stock buybacks and cost cutting.

Then, when the times are bad, they realize they’ve already turned the screws on every other part of their business, so they just run to the government with their hands open. Highly ironic because the money is coming from those same customers they’ve mistreated all these years prior, and they STILL only care about protecting shareholders with moves like this. When will people and government just stand up and say NO to these companies behavior???

The only error United really meant to say was that it was released too early, or they misjudged how badly it was going to look in the public eye.

This will just get reposted after the handouts stop.

These jobs will still go to India, they will just not be listed on the United website, they will go through an agency to do it.

They have the audacity to say people voluntarily separated? They eliminated positions then gave people two terrible options: no pay or benefits or take a "voluntary package" with flying benefits for 3 years and a 25% pay "severance" + medical until November 30th. They claim people voluntary separated so they could cut them before the CARES act and then do this. It's disgusting. People were just discarded and get this: They have to reapply for their positions if it opens back up.

I doubt that the postings were in error. Anyone who works in HR or management knows that these things are thoroughly vetted and approved beforehand. Jobs like this, with full requirements, salary info, and work locations aren't simply announced willy nilly. While mistakes can happen, I suppose, I personally seriously doubt that this was a mistake - this was United's plan but they realized how bad this looked and backed away. They understand that there's no way they could get US Gov't assistance while offshoring additional jobs.

So sad, what should we expect from UAL? Move to Delta and if you want to travel internationally opt for Air Canada.

Trump will make China pay...

American also currently has a bunch of job openings listed in management and clerical type positions. These are all U.S. based jobs though.

Ha ha, what a joke. I am already greeting customer service with 'Namaste' when I call them. My last 5 calls chasing after my miles ended up in India.

I think I'll accidentally fly anyone but United

In Related News: more than 300,000 Indians will be migrating to the U.S.A. in the Year 2021.
So either way,you will be seeing Indians at Boeing,7-Eleven and at Free Hand Outs at Churches. In Silicone Valley most Indians make avg $250,000/yr or more,But you can always spot them in Free Food Lines at Food Banks,Churches,etc in Fremont, San Ramon,etc

LOL can't wait until they start issuing H1B visas to Indian pilots because, after all, they just "can't find the talent" in the United States. Meanwhile, there will be thousands of Americans on furlough for years to come. United management deserves the bad press it's getting. I have no sympathy.

Ben... OK so far as you go, but your implication that the bottom line mission of the BOD is to maximise shareholder value is the same one dimensional approach to managing a corporation that got Boeing in so much trouble. Maximising shareholder value comes at about #4 after maximising customer loyalty, growing the company intelligently, and ensuring employees are on board and treated well. As a BOD, if you're going to focus primarily on shareholder value, stock appreciation, and dividends, then you're going down that slippery slope that has trashed Boeing's reputation and leadership, where the CEO focused almost exclusively on shareholder appreciation with cost cutting, workflow outsourcing, share buybacks, and all the other stock manipulation slight of hand that the bottom tier MBA graduates can recite by rote.
Airlines need "airline men (or women)" running them like Pat Patterson, Juan Trippe, Herb Kelleher, Reg Ansett and their ilk. These people knew the value of taking the employees along with them, providing a value for money customer experience, and growing when it made sense, not simply for market share. Airlines do not need accountants and lawyers running them, or people who have not done their time at the coal face of a big airline, because they're the ones that try to pull off sleazy tricks like this.
United slipped up and demonstrated just how underhanded and devious they were prepared to be on one hand, while the other hand was in the taxpayers' pocket... and they should be held to account accordingly.

Typical. Also know that just as the effects of Covid took hold earlier this year and the corporate wailing began to increase in both frequency and intensity, a search of system wide job opportunities yielded the usual mix of positions worldwide, the overwhelming majority being unionized. Not very long afterwards- days even, another search revealed nada- not one position was to be found. Not even in the always needy Hub stations. Ok so I guess they really are hurting like they say they are....go to shutdown laptop on the top of my lap and got a pang of suspicion causing me to check one more time. Union positions still gone but now there's all kinds of non-union positions showing up at random airports throughout the system. Soon after, with bailout money in hand and after promising the gubmint no firings or layoffs would occur- they inform the workers both full-time and part-time: that hours are to be slashed in half across the board and that they are fully within their rights to do so. Next day the union filles suit in federal court and the plan is shelved........with the company still carping about how they were within their rights to do so....fakas.

United meant the error was to post these posting publicly. Now United will just contract an Indian agency to take care of everything.

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