A transatlantic American Airlines flight yesterday had to divert for a sad reason…
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That’s awful and traumatic . I hope her family takes legal action against American immediately and doesn’t accept their 8k lowball offer. She had 38 years seniority and her family deserves better. Grieve later don’t let American walk all over her grave.
What did American do in this situation to warrant legal action? Was it somehow their fault? And what's the "8k lowball offer"? Seems weird to comment with all of this extra information that isn't addressed in the story.
She suddenly passed out on the plane, and CPR/defibrillation/etc were all attempted. (source: FA)
Why does AA owe her family money? She got sick and the result tragically caused her death. Getting very sick inflight has a greater risk because medical attention is limited. Truthfully I see very frail, infirmed people getting on planes every day and have to wonder just how dumb their family members are. They seem clueless to the risk they are exposing that person to.
Not saying that American did anything wrong . However , after 38 years of service there surely is some money vested , pension , or some money that the family may be unaware of what they are owed. They should be properly compensated. Maybe a Union rep out there can shed more light on the matter.
This is why I will never fly Cape Air. They have only one pilot and no flight attendants.
You would be surprised. People don’t care nowadays and apparently I read somewhere that the death of a crew member is considered as normal during the course of operations and should not be unexpected. They would rather get their EUR600 than show any remorse.
I am not an Attorney, I have no idea of any obligations. I do know that typical heart disease is a medical problem and typically it is very hard to assign blame to employment.
Since US airlines have a seniority based staffing scheme, this could become an almost weekly occurance in the near future.
Last time I flew Cape Air, there were two pilots. (Although I think they are allowed to operate with just one, as long as that pilot has a minimum number of hours of experience.)
Very sad and not an uncommon event on a flight among passengers, just based on crew to passenger ratios and mandatory pilot retirement ages, much less common with crew. I don't understand all of the speculation about compensation to the family with little to no information about the circumstances health or financial.
When an employee or retiree passes away the survivor will receive a phone call from American within 24 hours expressing their condolences and that they will be receiving a check in the amount of …. They get the corporate treatment. If the survivors judgement is clouded because they are grieving there is no way to double check the accuracy of said amount and if it is accepted then that’s that.
Fly with the angels, Carol. You were a joy to fly with! My deepest sympathy to your husband Jeff and daughter Haley. Hugs to your crew you had with you as I cannot imagine what they are going through. Lots of love for my AA fAAmily as my thoughts and prayers are with you all. RIP Carol❣️
D3Kingg YOUR a low life. Why even comment like this on an post memorializing this woman's death? Your attention seeking behavior is gross.
SEAN M. your comment is disgusting. This was part of life and has ZILCH to do with anything the company did. Money hungry and absolutely vile & gross comment.
Please kindly take this post down. Carol’s family requested privacy and this is not something to be published
Especially her info with her photo from AA
@BenjaminGutterry
The point is that American could care less about this employee . She took crap from passengers like you for years. She was someones mother , someones best friend , and someones hero.
Now get back to work !
It can be disgusting but sadly true. A TAP Portugal pilot was found death in his hotel room in Stuttgart, Germany and the flight to Lisbon had to be cancelled. Passengers did request the airline to pay according to EU 261/2004. The company refused alleging extraordinary circumstances. The case went up to the EU courts which ruled against the airline.
What a macabre post, please remove it, it’s not the kind of story this blog needs to report on
Don't see any basis for the family to sue the airline. The claims that the airline will somehow "walk all over her grave" if allowed seem completely ridiculous.
I highly doubt any of the "news orgs" got "clearance from the family" to report on this either. Life happens. Get over it. Ben and the frequent flyers here reading his website can have feelings too and can respectfully morn the loss of a long time employee as well. In fact, if You READ the comments, someone who knew her read this and commented celebrating her life. So go away of you want to live under a turtle shell and no know anything ever that happens.
Hugo, interesting data point. I have a feeling since this happened in the air and not before the flight on the ground where maybe some scheduling could be changed: This is a different situation. But we'll see.
TWO of her co-workers have commented and celebrated her life here on the very post. Go live under a rock if you don't ever want to know what's going on in the world. This is a sad event that has happened before and will happen again, it is newsworthy, other news orgs have also reported in some fashion, it was either public or shared. I guarantee other info is online about her as well. Kinda holding Ben to a ridiculous standard. PYOK, VFTW, JonNYC, and lots of others have this exact picture/post too.
It has been published in a number of leading newspapers so not sure why you think Ben is off base here. This is news and should be reported. Now issues like cause of death, photos (god help us I hope no one pulled out their phone to video it but that probably happened), etc are intrusive and if the family doesn't want that type of info out that is fine but the fact she passed away, impact on the flight, etc are all legitimate news.
No need for permission! It is widely reported news. Do you want to go after USA Today, the New York Times, the Associated Press, etc that have ALL reported on this?
Grow up
Sorry for the irrational comments earlier ; this hits home on a personal level for me.
So when an active airline employee or retiree of a US legacy carrier passes away regardless of the circumstances what do the airlines have to pay out ? How is that determined ?
That would depend on the life insurance coverage either provided by the airline or that the employee had purchased supplemental. Not sure why you think there is some kind of extra automatic payment? If the death were from a work-related condition, then workers’ compensation benefits would kick in. But this doesn’t sound like a work-related injury or illness. But if it were, there is a schedule of survivor benefits, burial, etc that would be paid out under applicable workers’ compensation coverage. But just because a fatality happens at work, doesn’t mean that it’s “work-related”.
Just for clarification....I think you have the flight numbers and registration wrong.
The flight that flew from Dublin to Philadelphia was AA 9780.
D3Kingg. Why should there be legal action? I don't understand except the fact that money hungry people like you just want to profit from someones death! The company had nothing to do to cause her death as far as I know. That would be a different situation. People have heart attacks and other physical problems and die. It happens every minute of every day!
Hopefully when something happened to you and your family, it will be published on this website accordingly
Hopefully when something happened to you and your family, it will be published on this website accordingly
It might hence not with the exact company to staff correspondence news media
Be respectful
Dale
American did not cause the death of the employee. My point is that when you work for an airline for 38 years you may have some type of benefits , pensions , etc that are supposed to be paid out and this should be double checked for accuracy. The family will be contacted immediately upon death at the most inconvenient possible time. It’s possible for a mistake to slip through the cracks . So it’s not me it’s the corporations. American has 130,00 employees for an example.
I was on the flight. Extremely sad and the crew was devastated.
There are some questions that need asking though…
The initial request for a doctor was near Paris. We did not divert immediately. Our flight path changed slightly towards London and I thought for sure we’d land there…we continued on. It was until she became unresponsive after we’d passed Dublin that an emergency was declared. If we’d have landed in Paris or London she would have had a chance at least. Why did we keep going?
As the daughter of Carol, some of these comments are absolutely disgusting. Do better.
Well that’s what happens when you are pressured and bullied by your employer and government to take satanic poison shots filled w snake venom and black baby aborted fetus injections. You stupid idiots gees did anyone buy American Airlines stock when it was .24 cents back in 2011 ? Or are you all that stupid?
Just guessing but it’s usually from taking those faucci fake vaccines. Several pilots and other flight attendants have died suddenly