After flying from Paris to Frankfurt, we had just an 85 minute connection before our flight to Los Angeles. While Lufthansa's First Class Terminal is one of my favorite lounges in the world, we didn't really have enough time to visit it. That's because it's actually located outside the terminal, so we would have had…
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Lucky, what name does the special friend in first post under in this blog? I have a few guesses.
The rude man reminds me of the guy on my BA London to Venice flight a few years ago. Carried on about his self importance and the 8 hour delay due to a French Air Controllers' Strike. Sadly, he and his wife sat next to me. Flight attendants were so polite, despite him hurling abuse at them (and then the Captain - quietened down after being threatened to be removed). I was in disbelief when he demanded an entire overhead bin be cleared so his wife's Prada handbag could be stowed. But karma is always wonderful to behold. They had failed to reschedule their airport transfer due to the delay and so were left stranded near midnight at Marco Polo airport. Watching them try to negotiate tickets for a transfer while I was whisked away by my chauffeur was very satisfying.
One of the things that has always bugged me about LH's caviar service is the lack of a proper spoon.. I always find it a bit difficult to eat
“This is home. Lufthansa first class.” GMAFB.
Can anyone help with what GMAFB is?
Love the review... thanks for a couple laughs about the other passengers!
These other passengers seem like complete a*holes who want attention
The kind of people that think because they have money and travel First, they are better than anyone else
Believe me, money certainly doesn't bring class
The crew should have requested they lower the tone as it's disturbing others
Nice little morning laugh thanks to the two dbags in your cabin. Thanks for adding that story in
"Oh well, I guess there are worse places to endure a delay."
Yeah...you could have been in economy! lol
So Lufthansa is now offering real dishes as it's pre-landing meal? No more buffet-style choose what you want on your plate?
Have you flown Swiss first class? I did and I feel there are similarities especially amenities/ given that Swiss belongs to LH group?
@Julia, that's right. Not sure when they made the switch but it's been over a year at least. I quite like the new pre-arrival service. They usually have a burger among other things and it's delicious.
"Ford had the melon strawberry gazpacho with sour cream ice cram."
I'm assuming he ice crammed it in 🙂
“are you the person who flies everywhere for free? I Google all my first class guests before the flight.”
That is the key difference between Germans and Swiss. Swiss would still Google you, but for discretionary reasons NOT admit they had done such a thing. Whereas a German might say this in 'friendly wonder' it still is inappropriate. Because it somehow strikes me as somewhat degrading even though that wasn't the intent. Hence why a Swiss would never say that because of the potential for causing offense.
“This is home. Lufthansa first class.”
Although he might have been a jerk, that comment is hilarious!
Generally sounds wonderful, with the exception of the very mediocre still wines. They might be ok in J on AA, but certainly not LH FC quality. Even the 2003 Cuvee Louise is a disappointment; the last time we flew NRT-LAX on JAL they were pouting Salon.
Oh well, at least they had Jonnie Walker Blue. 😉
Matt's Weinprobe notes on Pommery :" this is truly delicate champagne. You can only find it occasionally on Lufthansa, and if you do I suggest enjoying it (lots of it) by itself, or alternatively no further than the caviar course."
Or if you truly don't love it just toss the bottle at an undesirable neighbor's seat. 😉
Do you know if they'll bring back the Rimowa amenity kit? I read on Flyertalk and it seams it's a seasonal thing...wonder if you can provide some insights into this.
@Ruizhi -- I see no reason why they wouldn't. They change up the amenity kit every so often, but Rimowa is always in the rotation. Currently it's Jil Sander (which is also what Ben had). Occasionally it is Bogner.
So Funny...impossible that guy flies LH F that often and only is Senator. Not a big problem to get HON flying that route on a regular basis.
My last LH F flight I was next to Scott Disick and Bella Thorne (who came up from biz class). If you thought this was rough...
So I need to know...does anyone else see the menu and guess what Lucky will order? 🙂
Lucky,
How long was the delay to change your aeroplan award tickets? This post says you changed in the morning but I thought you changed late evening European time the night before. I plan something similar this summer...and was wondering how far aeroplan was behind united...
First Class butter ! I come from straight from the gutter. Like cheap butter .
Where's the punchline regarding your charming companions in F? How long did it take for the sedatives slipped in their drinks by the purser to take effect?
Nit-picking here, but you DO NOT have to clear Immigration when arriving in Germany from France.
Nice work otherwise... and thanks for sharing the tip about going to a different concourse in order to be driven to the aircraft.
As for the B-Movie producer traveling on your flight, it surprises me that the crew tolerated him. Nothing like someone else raining on your pleasant travel experience.
I'd love it if there was a massive twist in the tale and it was actually Ford tearing strips off Daniel for late submission of another Norweigian trip report.
Nice review I have flown Emirates First , Swiss & of course Lufthansa but amongst all Lufthansa beats them all. Service, Lounge , Food Quality & personal care are the best. Only regret they stopped Rimowa kit
NEVER stop over at the F Class lounge in A if you have to catch an International Flight. Use the FRAPORT gate to gate service, spend the 90 Euros, and have them take you seamlessly thru VIP Security, Passport Control and to the F Class lounge in B from where they will gladly drive you to your plane! Worth doing if you are going to enjoy a F Cabin experience on LH
Great review, and I love the fact you call out the d'bags in first class with you. A lot of people wouldn't go as far as you did, and I respect you for including that in the story!
Ben did you or Ford consider asking him to knock it off?? I would've spoken up, especially since he was using such offensive language. Would've taken all my restraint not to just smack him hahaha! So inappropriate
This dude sounds remarkably similar to a guy who emailed the company inbox at my last job. He just kept typing "FRAUD!!!" in all caps and threatening to sue us. He was also in film in LA (I think he was one of the executive producers for the Power Rangers series), and I'm guessing he had a blast in the 80s.
There was a similar character in the SilverKris First lounge in HK on that flight you were on in April. This dude had some sort of assistant with him, and was loudly talking about how he used to have a custom Bentley ("You should have seen it, it was gorgeous") but now doesn't find happiness in cars. He then had his assistant tuck him into the couch using his suit jacket and he just laid there and stared at people walking around the place. Makes me really appreciate AA Business where people are seemingly normal and just trying to get from point A to point B.
I definitely don't think it's insignificant to point out unruly/entitled customers. The airlines should be dealing with them accordingly so their other customers aren't alienated.
@Julia: they changed the second service in March last year
@Lucky: actually, the walk to the FCT is shorter than to FCL B and, as mentioned by others, would not have caused to clear immigration
The French Canadian FA you had is positively lovely. She was on my HKG-FRA flight back in May and it was the best LH F flight I've ever taken.
Is there anyway to know which amenity kits will be given out on which flights? I have my first Lufthansa first class flight coming up next week and selfishly want the Rimowa kit 🙂
I would have suggested that Loud Mouth Movie guy do something rude with that "first class" butter...
@ Adam -- Hah, aside from reading recent reviews, don't think they publish it in advance. But I suspect Ben (above) is correct.
@ Jack -- Yeah, early on I had considered asking the guy to knock it off shortly after we got driven to the plane. But it was clear to me he had such ego issues that he might be the type of person who actually throws a punch, or something. It just didn't seem worth it, and frankly it was almost sort of entertaining. I had considered asking the flight attendant to get them to knock it off, but I feel like that would have put her in a really awkward situation. That's especially true since one of them was a HON Circle member, and crews are taught to treat them like Gods, so...
@ Always Flying Somewhere -- You're of course correct, thanks! Will update the post.
CAVIAR SERVICE: not sure I agree with comments that they don't use an appropriate spoon to serve. The protocol is to use Mother of Pearl or Plastic and never stainless steel/silver. In the 2 flights I have taken in the past 72 hrs they used plastic each time. What is wrong with that? However looking at the pic of your serving I must confess it looks pretty light! Did they ask you if you wanted more caviar? They almost always do....! Did they offer you a shot of chilled vodka to go with the caviar? Sometimes one needs to ask for it.
CHAMPAGNE: fully agree with you 2003 Cuvee Louise by Pommery is far from the best served on LH
SEATS G & D: I invariably travel with my better half and on a 748 3D/G are the only 2 truly "together" in the front cabin (on 346 and 380 the choice is 2D/G and 1D/G) and sitting together in D/G, albeit "exposed", is better than being separated by the aisle (748) or the centre row! The sense of exposure only persists prior to take off. It feels perfectly private thereafter. Trust me.
WINE SELECTIONS: fully agree with the comments that it could be a whole lot better than what they put forward
RIMOWA KITS: next time you are on a flight where they DO offer them (and they rotate the distribution!) ask for an extra (they usually oblige!) And to get an assortment of colours ask to see the options (outer box colour) of the Male and Female versions!
@Lucky I was once driven off a 747 on a small minibus at Heathrow when I was 7 yrs old . I remember how big the plane was looking up at it and how loud it was. My family was flying standby and they had miscounted a passenger who was in the bathroom. We were party of 4 and there were only 3 seats so they had to drive out to the plane and fetch us off. The plane was already down a runway ready for takeoff. Granted it was 1986 I don't understand why my parents didn't have a poloroid on them to take some photos.
I agree on the positive experience. I flew the reverse route last week, however I walked to FCT even if my connection was just 70 minutes. You have to walk anyway to get to either FCLs and with 5 minutes more you are in FCT, where you have a guaranteed drive to connecting flight (provided it is on LH, LX, OS or EN). Technically FCT is not an arrival lounge, but I was never denied access after arriving in F and continuing with one of the above. This time I had time to shower and a fast bite before being driven to plane parked in off position. As you said, LH is always consistent and F services in FRA are second to none (never tried AF in CDG though)
hmmm i thought you'd be playing countess/mrs luann's "money can't buy you class" on your phone during the delay... "elegance is learned, my friends" https://youtu.be/kEDvlSAMhQU
Regarding your first class mate: Some of these people are simply drugged - they hate flying because they could loose their pathetic life. Then they add some alcohol and end up being idiots. Quite sure he does not travel too much first class.
I would rather fly in Y next to some nice people a thousand times before flying in F next to the person you encountered. That won't stop me from trying to book LH F one of these days, but what you described is basically my nightmare scenario.
@Lucky - Ben, love your reviews. You arrived from a Schengen country (A gate), walked to FCL B, and were driven to a US-bound flight. Where did you go through immigration, and was there any extra security?
Next week I have a 4-hour connection from France (also A gate arrival) before a US flight, debating whether to go to FCL B or FCT - definitely want to get a car ride to the plane. Based on what I read here, FCT seems to be a better choice. Original schedule had a 45-minute connection, barely enough to make the flight, especially since it's the first one in the mad rush of flights leaving for the US every 5 minutes between 1 and 2 pm.