American's New Los Angeles To Hong Kong Flight Now Bookable
As was officially confirmed a couple of weeks ago (and as has been rumored for quite a while), American will be launching nonstop daily Boeing 777-300ER flights between Los Angeles and Hong Kong as of September 7, 2016. The flight will operate with the following schedule: Los Angeles to Hong Kong departing 1:55AM arriving 8:10AM…
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Why do you think the fares to Asia have dropped? I think fares to everywhere have dropped.
There was also a class action against airlines for collusion for price fixing for trips to Asia.
I wonder if AA and CX will look at a joint venture (or are already in discussions)? With the overlap on routes (DFW and LAX to HKG) and connection potential it would seem to make a lot of sense. HKG is great for onward connections to Southeast Asia, less great for much of China (given how far south it is, requiring a backtrack for most Chinese cities), but given Cathay/Dragonair's extensive China network, lack of a mainland Chinese carrier in OneWorld (unlike Star and SkyTeam), and AA's own fairly limited service to China, a JV would make a lot of sense.
@02nz - The US generally wont - and hasn't - permitted any JV until the two countries in question have an open skies agreement in place. There's no open skies between Hong Kong and the US or between China and the US, so no JV for now.
Interestingly this route is part of their JV with JAL rather than a new one with Cathay Pacific
What if you're just regular platinum. What are the chances you'd expect an upgrade to clear?
For the dates I looked at, business fares start at $4900 for (JFK-LAX-HKG) which I think is very competitive (CX charges at least $1k more) and appealing (at least the hard product is the same, but most people know the AA soft product will be abysmal) on that route. I don't know if this translates into a guaranteed upgrade to C inventory for an AA EP, but you're right the odds are really good. Do you know if AA has historically deeply discounted the DFW-HKG route in J? Because I could see a sub $3k business fare as a great way to get 2x EQM and guaranteed J seat.
I think HKG locals may choose CX, but being US-based and if traveling for business, I would choose AA over CX. The hard product (including wifi) is all that really matters, and the service in CX J is nothing spectacular anyways.
Upgrades on international AA travel require System Wide Upgrades (SWUs). Those are only given out to Exec Plats. So your chances of an upgrade as a Plat are zero . . . . unless you know an Exec Plat who will give you one.
Even though CX is running 4 flights a day plus twice a day to SFO, it is extremely difficult to come across business and first class awards at any time of the year. Hence, this route must be doing very well.
Good decision by AA.
Looking forward to some good deals in the premium sector.
@Andrew: A family of 4 - 'Hong Kong Locals as you described' has chosen to fly AA on this route and visit relatives and friends in LAX, ORD, YTO and IAH. All International C and domestic F by AA. The fare including taxes and fees is less than 3k or 12k for 4... What an affordable trip compared to the 2016 CNY period CX F fare to LAX at 23K per person!
@chester -- while AA fares might well be less expensive generally than CX fares, comparing AA international business fares to CX international first fares makes no sense. That's apples to oranges!
@paul5795 If you have read Andrew's comment, you would understand I was trying to echo him. The CX service IS nothing special, spectacular or legendary. On the other hand, as local HKers who travel with family to North America, would still choose AA over CX due to cost issue. The return LAX F fare at 23k is outrageous while I had eventually taken that 1A seat for the both legs of the immediate past CNY period to LAX. The CX F service IS nothing spectacular as I would repeat, let alone CX C service. For the similar itinerary, LAX, ORD, YTO and IAH return on CX C, it would cost ~8-10k pp which is equally outrageous compared to AA's 3k. Personally I am not sold the difference in soft product would worth that 7k gap pp. It is indeed a good sign to see more competition on this route albeit AA and CX are both oneworld members. Well when you can not collude / cooperate, then you have to compete.. head-on..
I took an economy class flight with family and had to find a place to write my review. AA has the worse customer service for any LAX to HKG airline. I felt like they hired the worse flight attendants to service the flights. Half assed everything. They were trying to cater to Asian customers and fails at it. It is fine if they were catering to Americans who are used to bad service, but they're not. Domestic American flight service on an international Asian travel is degrading.
Food was subpar, why serve americnaized Chinese food to Chinese people. It's an insult. Also, the Chinese attendants could barely speak Chinese.(Cantonese and mandarin). The annocements in Chinese was terrible.
I lost count how many times the flight attendant push his cart into my seat and numerous others. Unapologetically. Going to HKG they at least provided headphones, the return flight they said "we don't have any".
During food service they ran out of chicken dish (vs beef) with a quarter of the plane unserved. They don't understand that Asian usually choose chicken over beef. Know your audience AA.
Good thing I only paid $500 for the flight, I get what I paid for.
