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American's 767-300 New Fully Flat Business Class

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Update: American Airlines will retire all 767-300s by May 2020. Back in January American unveiled the seatmaps for their newly reconfigured Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, which people seemed to come across through random searches on aa.com. While they revealed the seatmaps, oddly they didn't announce what type of seat they'd actually have. As I said at…

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(@Mike (The #hustle Blog))
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Finally retrofitting these old birds, awesome. I assume the DFW-HNL/OGG routes with NGBC will be the last to change over, if at all.


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wow... pretty!


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(@Harry Campbell (@PFPro1))
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I'm flying on AA from lax to JFK to FCO on July 15 booked on a 60k anytime economy currently in MCE. I could pay 40k more and get business, have been debating this for a while. How do I find out if JFK to FCO leg will be on a new 767-300 or an old one?


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@ PFPro1 -- You would want to look at the seatmap. As of now that flight is scheduled to be operated by the old configuration, but keep an eye on things because that could change.


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Looks nice. Delta's looks so cheap...


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(@Alex (@NoviceFlyer))
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That would be a great April fool's joke. Sorry, due to equipment change, we have our nice old 767 back! lol 😀


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 John
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Are they doing anything with economy, like AVOD or WiFi? Trust me, I will try to get into biz, but if we are stuck in the back is the same experience as we get today?


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With the increased width of the window seat tables, wouldn't the foot space be alot wider than the center two seats ? Hope they offer luggage storage in that wide table.


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 Mike
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Looks bad for tall (and wide) people.


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(@coalharbour)
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From that first picture, looks like 2G has more elbow room than 2D. Strange!


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(@Louis)
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How does this compare to UA's PS Business Class product?


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(@Frank)
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This is the weakest widely used J product out there.


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(@Hong Kong Airline News)
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Love the new product - looks amazing and short I will fit perfectly.

@ Alex - LOL!


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 Sean
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Ben, have you heard about an incident with Malaysia Airlines today? I can't find much online yet.


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@ John -- Here's what I've been told:
"Other elements of the retrofit project include the installation of new LCD drop-down monitors onboard, new digital audio systems, refreshed lavatories, and new seat covers and cushions in the Main Cabin that mirror the design of American’s 777-300ER fleet for a more consistent widebody experience."

So no wifi or PTVs, but they are "refreshing" the cabin.


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@ Louis -- They're similar products in that they're both fully flat and forward facing. The United style seat has a bit more legroom in the foot cubby, while this one is a bit more private since you can sit without a seatmate. So depends how you look at it, I guess.


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 Mark
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Wait, AA has turndown service in business class? Or is that photo misleading PR?

It's good to see AA follow DL's lead in offering direct-aisle access, though I must admit AA's finishes are much, much better looking.


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 Tara
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Couldn't agree more with everyone, DL seems cheap compared to AA's new offering.


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 Ted
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Hi Ben,

What is the deal with American's 767-300 refurbishment? Is seems that many routes have the new 767-300 for example MAN-JFK and ORD or CDG-MIA,ORD and JFK. However it seems that randomly the seat map gets swished to the old configuration. This is not an every day thing but it seems like it sometimes happens at least 3 times a week on some of these routes and the map is changed between 10-6 hours of departure. Is American's 767-300 refurbishment delayed or do they just not have as many planes with the new product as the website seat maps show? Also when American does do a plan swap to an older plane, do they randomly reassign your seat or do they still put you with your travel companions that you originally booked to sit next to? Thank You


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@ Ted -- Unfortunately they're just very inconsistent, and agree it's frustrating in terms of managing expectations. I think it's going as planned, but they're just being optimistic with plane allocation. There should be some logic when they reassign seats after an aircraft swap, though I doubt it's perfect logic. It definitely pays to monitor closely.


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