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American Is Already Cutting Capacity To Cuba

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Over the past few months we’ve seen the major US airlines begin selling tickets for flights to Cuba, with many of the flights launching in the coming weeks. It’s no surprise that so many US carriers requested rights to operate routes to Cuba, given that it’s the first time in decades that such flights are…

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(@Jake P)
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lol. Saw that coming!


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(@Stefan)
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I think one of the main reasons is, that these routes are not open to tourists (a fact which many European travel agents didn't even know until recently).


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(@Joeheg)
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I'd think that even the Cubans flying to the island would not like these changes. Previously they brought large amounts of supplies with them to Cuba (flat screen TVs, car tires, toys were all brought to relatives from the US. Charter flights knew this and charged by the weight you were bringing. With mainline US carriers limiting the weight of luggage and surcharges for more all bags and overweight luggage, they didn't learn from the carriers who knew how to make money on these flights.


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 Tom
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@Stefan,
What do you mean these routes are not open to tourists? I presume you mean European tourists connecting in the US. Why wouldn't they be able to take one of these flights? I though Cuba entry restrictions applied to US citizens but not US airlines.


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(@Tim A)
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I flew on a 737 from Miami to Holguin last month. There were 13 of us. Since I have elite status with American, I was upgraded to Business… where I was alone.

I'm guessing that route is also due for a cutback. (But flying American is so much nicer than having to take a charter!)


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Diamond
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Not enough hotels (and no really good hotels)


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All is unfolding as I foresaw. LOL

"I suspect this is only the beginning of capacity cuts to Cuba"

Yep. When the routes were awarded, and I saw the ridiculous overcapacity, some of them to towns most of us had never heard of, not to mention the dreadful lack of infrastructure to accommodate that many arrivals, my comment here was that this was "plane madness".

Right now they're downgrading A319s to ERJ 175s. Once they find they can't begin to fill even those, the next thing will be to use Dash 8 Turboprops. Eventually they will be petitioning to cut the daily flights back to once a week. 😉


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(@Darth Chocolate)
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And you always have to worry that the government will seize the planes. They have done it before.


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(@joeinsfo)
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Shithole Cuba. Wait until Trump and the Republicans (aka old time Miami Cuban expats) try to scale back the diplomatic openings. That will be the end of these flights. Go from Canada, Mexico or Jamaica....


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(@jason-brandt-lewis)
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I certainly hope no one is surprised by this . . .


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 Mike
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The word is out that Cuba sucks. Tell your friends so they don't waste their time and money. Think of all the people who travel just to post selfies and then find out it takes over 20 min to upload one photo on the 56.6k government regulated internet.


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(@ziggy)
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@Mike Do you really judge a vacation destination by how well the internet works there?


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(@Federico)
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The problem is that many cubans still don't know/trust to buy their tickets online to go to Cuba, why? well for many years they have been buying airlines tickets trough agencies on their charter flights without any seat selection (a chaos at the gate), and know is is hard to believe that is so simple because they are not use to.

Airlines should waive tickets fees for Cuba over the phone, at least for the first 6 months, spend some money on Ad/Commercials on local Spanish Tv channels. I live in Miami and I can tell you a lot of people still don't know that you can buy a ticket online and is cheaper that those charter flights.

Remember "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" but I think is possible in this case 😉


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 Mike
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I was at MIA flying to Cancun last week and all the gates around us were flying to Cuba. There are airlines flying to Cuba that you haven't even mentioned such as air Aruba was flying straight from Miami to Cuba and the flight was packed so they must be offering some pretty fares.
When we returned from Cancun almost all the flights coming in we're from Cuba we were in immigration waiting for a passport to be checked in all we could hear was Cubans screaming Oye tú!
Clearly the demand for Cuba is in Miami. But if say that's about it !!!


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(@Stefan)
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@Tom
The U.S. government currently permits passenger travel to Cuba for one of twelve general reasons and tourism isn't one of them! See the following document from AA: https://aasaleslink.com/en-US/documents/Archives/AgencyRef/Cuba_Travel_Agency_Instructions_20Sep16.pdf


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(@Melissa)
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American can fly one more flight to Cuba. Put Barack "Huessein" O'Racist, his wife Moochelle O'Racist, Elon Musk O'Communist and all the Silicon Valley, NYT, Uber, AirBNB, Bernie Sanders socialist, communist pigs from America on the flight, one way and let them stay there....right, Rauuul?


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(@jason-brandt-lewis)
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@Lucky -- I confess to some curiosity here. Perhaps I missed something, but what does Melissa's comment have to do with American Airlines reducing its capacity on flights to and from Cuba? And if it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, how did this comment pass moderation and, more importantly, why is it allowed to remain?


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 iv
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Cuba is primarily a all-inclusive vacation destination. Airlines will only make money selling vacation packages. Here's a tip... book with Air Canada or WestJet vacations via Toronto and save BIG $$$.

The beaches in Cuba are beautiful especially in Cayo Coco.


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Diamond
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@Tom - The restrictions apply to everyone, not just US citizens. The irony is that OFAC will not actually issue licenses to non-US entities to conduct business citing lack of jurisdiction, but they do assert the same jurisdiction to issue prohibitions.


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