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American Airlines Stops Pilot Hiring, Cancels Training Classes

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American Airlines expects it will need fewer pilots in the next year, which is a pretty telling development about the situation that the airline is in…

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(@Eskimo)
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Too much raise.


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 Lee
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For the better part of nine months, AA's international footprint will contract due to the 773 retrofit -- we already see it in the schedule. And, due to delivery delays, the XLRs will likely not fully phase in until mid-2025. Other factors? It would seem to make sense but maybe I'm wrong.


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(@Paper Boarding Pass)
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Just image you have resigned your commission with the military or have a s**t load of student aviation debt and United puts you in a holding pattern for a year!! Some serious cussing and cursing going on right now!

As for the instructor pilots, they would continue to fly just to maintain their proficiency.


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(@George Romey)
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Within the space of a year the airline has gone from desperate for pilots to no need for more pilots. I think we're going to see changes in air travel and not for the good. There's a segment of the population that is massively tapped out and taking the kids to Disney is no longer remotely affordable-or having credit card capacity to fund it.


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(@John Jo)
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Paper boarding pass , sure you know what flight or Airline your getting on?
Romey, I don't know everywhere I go is packed with people, spending while they cry inflation.
Plane shortage = less Pilots plain and simple.


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(@George Romey)
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Packed planes don't equal profits. Airlines began to pack planes in the late 90s responding to primarily Southwest which had a much cheaper cost structure and therefore could offer lower fares and even more so the Internet, which gave consumers the ability to ferret our a much lower fare. And yet what happened to the industry?

And the American consumer? There's very little worry about tomorrow. As long as there's room on the credit card and they can make that minimum monthly payment they will spend. But that eventually comes to an end UNLESS we get COVID style helicopter money again.


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(@Cory Cesar)
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Wow, the competition for those open First-Class seats must be really fierce.


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(@Dee Tails)
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United is continuing to place pilots in new hire classes. American is pausing hiring until next year at the earliest.


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That’s what I thought. The raises cost people their jobs. It always happens when unions demand the world.


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Diamond
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Sounds like they’re entering bankruptcy .


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 Joe
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Isom got $31 million last year. If they’re going bankrupt the fat cats in the executive office are lining their pockets before it happens. Meanwhile FAs haven’t had a pay increase since 1/1/2019 and management wants to blame the “unreasonable” unions for all their woes. Isom is driving that company into the ground and lining his pockets with millions while he does it.


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 Mark
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Their product offering is so bad , if you have a choice you wouldn't use them. That does have an effect on a carriers performance when they market themselves as a full service carrier.


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(@Steve Cook)
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Sounds like TWA all over again?


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(@Jana McDonough)
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We used to fly American exclusively. My husband flew over 2 million miles with them and has nothing really to show for it. Their flight schedules in our area are pathetic. I just looked at American to fly to NY and the return flight via DFW has an 18% on time rating. Wow. Plus, I have miles I cannot use. BUT, the main complaint is when I called the airline to try and book a flight to Europe, there was a 3 hour wait to get a reservation agent who could only read from a script and could not answer my questions. Improve the quality of your customer service!! Make it possible to use hard earned miles for flights. Make customers feel valued and they will return.


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(@J.M. Fredrickson)
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I’ve been a flt attendant with AA for 37 yrs & frankly, the airline that hired me has been flushed down the toilet by the current USAir/America West mgmt..
I would never fly for my yearly vacation, too risky with high probability of delays & flight cancellations; For the 5th straight year, I’ll drive to my destination in the Midwest.


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(@Robert Hersh)
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Under USAirways, Doug Parker, Scott Kirby and Robert Isom were dubbed the golden boys of the airline industry by the WSJ I believe for the incredible turnaround they collectively implemented at USAirways.
The airline was at the top of its game. Then they merged and bailed out AA that just couldn’t seem to find a pathway out of bankruptcy. The baffling thing that happened was instead of staying the course USAirways was on, with incredible documented success, the adopted the corporate philosophy of an already failing airline. Now, they’re back in a mess. Let’s see what happens next. Vasu essentially tore the airline apart. Hopefully Robert Isom can go back to the good days of USAirways corporate model and right the ship. He did it once before, he can do it again


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(@Victor Cardozo)
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I flew with them as F/A for almost ten years it was smooth and taking care of the Customers but merge with Us Airways is caos they invest the mi i'm un or nothing on Aircraft's and the most important the people ! they don't care about customers and the employees they want you to follow policies and be productive cash/ Cash is what they expect. The CEO make more and more profit and the employees less and less and Customers paying for this and that like Spirit. ☹️


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(@Fred Door)
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My daughter, a Marine 130 driver, has a CJO with them from Oct 2023 and now is in limbo until who knows when. Guess she’ll have to live on reservist money until they make good on the offer.


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