American Airlines Pilots File Lawsuit, Refuse To Fly To China

Suggest you redact the Duty Pilot's phone number for privacy.

are you happy to breach GDPR and publish his phone number ?

Hong Kong isn’t really an issue , but most Americans wouldn’t know

AA has zeroed out all flights from DFW to HKG next week

@Icarus

LOL, Exactly you have no idea about Hong Kong, like most Americans.

HK is an issue PLEASE AVOID UNNECESSARY TRAVEL THERE.

The notice was published by them on their APA site, with the phone number, to the general public. No need to redact the number.

Eskimo. It’s safer to travel via HKG. I was there yesterday I meant transit There is no restriction on travel to HK
You’re more likely to be shot in parts of the US

Even if HK isn't included in the travel warning, plenty of us have been told to avoid it by our employers as part of "Greater China" (and required to not go into the office for 2 weeks if we do go there), so demand will drastically drop there too.

I’m surprised flights to HK are not being given the same flexibility as flights to PEK/PVG. Air Canada had me jumping through hoops to cancel my flight to HK this weekend (even though I was willing to accept the fees and penalties) and the only reason I received a fee waiver in the end was because my connection from the US to Toronto was cancelled due to technical issues with the plane.

Why put quotation marks around the word facts? Do you doubt these facts? If so provide some evidence that the facts listed are incorrect

They are facts - all the issues listed are true and not open to debate.

Hi i believe the Unions are correct, i,m suprised at Delta, as these planes , crew can go onto fly other routes, so not only the crew , plus their passengers could be at risk, they need to stop services now,

The virus is either rapidly spreading or the authorities cannot keep up with the number of sick people in China to give complete tracking metrics. Singapore announced today that they are no longer allowing visitors from mainland China. Unfortunately, I think airlines need to suspend travel to China until the situation improves. I think the pilots are right.

I’m surprised that all three US carriers continue

all the Chinese airlines continue to service their routes, so if any one needed to evacuate China, it’s not like they would be stranded.

When the state department and CDC says do not travel, it makes sense for pilots to uh not travel.

Another good example of the value of unions. HQ is happy to send employees into a pandemic if it means making a dollar.

Interesting that they sue over this and I do not recall any lawsuits when AA was making crews stop in Caracas. And nothing in China holds a candle to what goes on in Venezuela.

@ChrisC +1

I'm also intrigued that Lucky tells us American Airlines "announced", but British Airways just "claimed".

Does Lucky "claim" to be a knowledgable travel blogger? Or is he one?

Any chance Chinese carriers will be barred from entering the US? Israel yesterday banned all Chinese carriers.

Why is this coming from the pilots union and not from the crew? Pilots are locked up while crew is serving and getting up close to passengers so much more dangerous

@Eskimo some people are clueless

When speaking of a China that includes Hong Kong and Taiwan however American doesn’t fly to Taipei , China.

@D3KingAmerican

Taipei is in China, however not the Communist China you're supporting here. As a matter of fact, if one wants to experience the millenary Chinese culture, look no further that Taiwan, where years of communist rule and purges have not destroyed the people's culture and traditions.
I already know the answer but:
Why do Hong Kong people have their own distinct passports if they're part of the one China?

@ChrisC +1

@stogieguy7 , international crews dont spend time in Venezuela. They turn around immediately or go to Aruba for rest. The risk in Venezuela is crime, and there's not really an epidemic of shootings at the airport. No different than flying into Memphis or Birmingham , which have sky high gun crime rates.

Our son lives in Vietnam and has tickets To Chicago on China Eastern Airlines (April 9-19) with connections in Shanghai. Because he is traveling for his brother’s wedding, should we re-book with United who has connections in Tokyo?

@ChrisC

Be careful when you speak logically based on real facts about this issue. Some people here will slam you and/or call you a racist…

I am glad airlines and countries are taking this matter into their own hands, instead of waiting on China.

@D3KingAmerican

I'm not going into geopolitics. This is purely risk of spreading the virus.

Mainland crossed into HK countless times. With numbers not transparent, there is a higher chance HK is already a high risk zone. Think of what country a Chinese national can transit through and speaks Mandarin. There are 5 million who left Wuhan before the lockdown. Does anyone think none of them are infected?

AVOID HONG KONG
AVOID TAIWAN
AVOID MACAU

The racism going on here is absolutely disgusting beyond belief

Will they also refuse to fly to Chicago?

@ kathypolvi. It’s in April and why ask here ? I guess it’s upto your son otherwise you will forfeit the ticket and have to buy a new one

@D3KingAmerican

Ritz Carlton, infected, W, Infected, Four Seasons, Infected, where are you staying?

I understand both the cockpit crew and the cabin crew of a SriLankan Airlines A330 volunteered to fly to Wuhan to bring back a group of Sri Lankan students to Colombo.

Does all this Not flying make common sense.
1. BA says its not flying.
2. Soon after AirFrance, Lufthansa, American goes limited.

Dum de dum dum. Is Cathay still flying, AirChina, EVA and a whole cast of other "non nationally named" carriers are flying. Quantas says Feb 9th will stop.

The whole world and the rest of us are just dum dums. I was surrounded by Chinese tourists in Europe this past week. Planes, trains and shopping centers.

So Allied Pilots Association make statement that 737MAX is safe to fly after 2 flights crashed, which caused deaths of all onboard which they had no control over.

Conversely, they take court case just to avoid a virus broadly similar to the flu, in which you control the outcome in terms of your own cleanliness, and which has had no reported transmission outside the originating country.

Crazy!

@Icarus Not Lucky nor this blog are from the EU, so he's not under any obligation to follow the GDPR.

@Mh so since they didnt do that in the past, are they supposed to continue making the same mistakes, then??