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American Airlines & Philippine Airlines Launch Partnership

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American Airlines and Philippine Airlines have just announced a new codeshare partnership. This is exciting on the surface, since American doesn’t often launch new partnerships. However, the execution here leaves a bit to be desired, and there’s no indication of things getting more interesting.

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Diamond
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I was wondering why they'd need this, with Cathay and the (previously, and likely eventually) powerhouse HKG hub right there.... but this just seems to be about connecting to the Philippines as a destination, so I guess that makes sense.


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(@Mike O.)
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I guess this helps the Filipino diaspora that reside in areas without any Oneworld presence but AA and seafarer traffic.


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(@roger)
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This has been a long rumored Partnership but there are more than likely restrictions on what can be offered since AA has Joint Venture Ops with JAL and Qantas across the Pacific where they share revenue and they also do code shares with Cathay Pacific and Malaysian in addition to China Southern. With the exception of China Southern all the others are Alliance Partners at this time so unless Philippine joins ONEWORLD there may be some obstacles in broadening the partnership.


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(@DaBluBoi)
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As long as ANA have a stake in them, PR joining Oneworld seems very unlikely. I kinda wished DL would partner with them instead, since I think SkyTeam would be the best fit for PR rn, given their existing partnerships


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 Alex
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The Tokyo-Manila flights are actually helpful because PR operates both daytime and nighttime HND-MNL flights, whereas JL only operates a nighttime one.


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(@ImmortalSynn)
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"there are more than likely restrictions on what can be offered"

These would be self-imposed though.


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(@Mike O.)
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@DaBluBoi At the moment, NHs stake is less than 1% which is pretty much nil. But someone else might be interested in investing in them. Maybe QR?

https://www.philstar.com/business/2023/05/02/2263023/pal-open-new-investors


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(@Eric D)
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Odd that PR routes from LA was not included in this new codeshare deal.


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(@Eric D)
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I meant PR routes from LA to Philippines.


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Diamond
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The problem with PR is that one has to experience the literal butthole that is Ninoy Aquino International Airport. I would only wish that on my worst enemy. Other than that, nope.


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(@brian)
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Wonder how the GUM codeshare would work as AA doesn't fly to GUM and PR only flies GUM-MNL ?


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(@chuck)
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They can't do any transpac routes as the sometimes fly over Russia which is a no-no and aa dropped codeshares with cx and JL

Saying this, mnl/naia is a total hellhole and pr frequently swap out the 359 for a 777 which is a horror show


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(@Brianair)
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I wonder if this means that we’ll see AA launch LAX-MNL soon. Large Filipino diaspora and still at least somewhat of an AA hub in Los Angeles. Typically that’s what happens when new partnerships are created. United launched SFO-MNL in addition to PR already flying it so it’s not that abnormal.


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(@Funtimes)
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Wonder when Ben will do a Philippines trip?

He has not done one. Why not?

Could go to Amanpulo in Palawan. The resort has it's own plane that goes to Manila. The resort also has a runway on it's small island.


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(@iamhere)
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A bigger idea regarding your general comments is about the need to do it. For Air Canada and other airlines there is more of a need to do it vs for American, Delta, et all.


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