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American Adjusts Some Award Costs To Hawaii & Canada

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While I don't think we'll see a full blown award chart devaluation from American anytime soon (they've done enough damage to the program in the past few years), American has announced some (fairly minor) updates to their award pricing, which involve both Canada and Hawaii. They're both good and bad news, so let's look at…

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(@chesterwilson)
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They have nearly zero ORD-HNL award availability so I'd say its a positive if it keeps people from using there miles and opens up award space to book with other programs (Etihad, BA, etc).


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(@DCJoe)
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The Aanytime awards at 67.5K for flights the same length as east Coast-LHR(like ORD/DFW-HNL) were a pretty good option, especially if you could get a lie-flat on the red-eye back. I think American figured that out.


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(@terence)
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"As you can see:
If the award includes travel on an aircraft with lie-flat seats in the US and Canada, the business premium cabin award pricing on a saver ticket will be 7,500 miles higher
If the award includes travel on an aircraft with lie-flat seats in the US and Canada, the business premium cabin award pricing on an AAnytime ticket will be 20,000 miles higher"

How to see the difference between flat beds or not? I don't see an indicator in the charts


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 Hal
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There's pretty much no Hawaii availability from DFW anyways. Cheaper just to pay $2000 or so for the ticket.


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(@Chris)
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I found lie flat for anytime award at 67,500 was too good to last. Delta one and United was quite a bit more miles for anytime awards. Just my two cents. Also, AA miles were easier to earn with Citi and Barclays applications and churner mailers on Citi cards.


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(@Kyle B)
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AA has flights to Edmonton as well


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 Vinn
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While I wouldn't say saver first class space to/from Hawaii is easy to find, it is not nearly as hard to find as it used to be if your dates are flexible, even in lie flat. The key is that AA seems to be playing a lot of married segment games with these flights.

For example I have booked 3x KOA->DFW->PHX and 2x KOA->DFW->RDU on a Tuesday next August for 40K miles each, with the first segment being a redeye on a lie flat 777. The key is that KOA->DFW had no saver space directly, but when I changed the destination to PHX or RDU there were >5 seats available on that same KOA->DFW flight.

There also was quite a bit of saver first class space to and from KOA through LAX, though this of course is not lie flat.

And, the married segment part means I don't think it could be booked anywhere except through AA.


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(@bill-n-dc)
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Well glad we went to Hawaii in Oct on anytime level 1 award with 777 flatbed redeye home.
It’s only a game for me. ✈️


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(@ladakn99)
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Edmonton, Ottawa, and Quebec City are also oneworld destinations in Canada. American Eagle flies to those three along with Calgary, Toronto and Montreal, Vancouver is served by mainline only.


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 Ben
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AA also has flights to Quebec (PHL; ORD starting in June), Edmonton (PHX), and Ottawa (PHL). There are also still some codeshares with AS that are still available to some Western Canada destinations with AA miles as well (i.e. SEA-Victoria/YYJ).


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(@qofmiwok)
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Hawaii to Europe also went up 10,000.

Now does the 7,500-20,000 more points ONLY affect Hawaii to mainland lie-flat seats? What about, lie-flat segments in the continental US? For example, if from Hawaii to Europe the lie-flat is LAX-PHL.


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(@tony kline)
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I just booked 4 U savers DFW-KOA in 772 for spring break. I was amazed that availability was there given the upcoming devaluation


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(@steve)
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When will AA start letting the premium economy seats be up for awards? anyone hear anything?


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