Alaska Mileage Plan Devalues Japan Airlines Awards

no 90 day warning as what Alaska Promised?

They've already warned you with its simplified award chart.

Meanwhile, awards within Asia have doubled in price. From 25k to 50k in Business. ouch

Didnt Alaska say they would give customers 90 day notice? Lucky please press them, you are our voice.
We need to stop businesses imposing their devaluations and we just agreeing. No one holds them accountable.

Awards on BA in First and Business have also gone up from what I saw this weekend. F from 70K to 80K to London from the west coast, for instance.

Alaska MP is close to losing its edge,

Japan is experiencing it's highest ever demand for this upcoming spring. JAL and ANA first and business are selling out, even with very high rates. Do you think it's possible those airlines have made VS and AS increase their mileage redemption costs?

We were given 90 days notice for the new award chart in 2022. Unfortunately the "starting from" language in the award price absolves them from giving us notice for any pricing changes unless they increase the minimum price. Everyone saw this coming.

And a candy bar was 10 cents when I was a kid. We never refer to dollar devaluation. We refer to price inflation. Ought not we should refer to point price inflation rather than point devaluation? Isn't that what we're truly discussing. Do we not expect price inflation with everything else we buy? Certainly, we don't like it. But, it is not as if an airline is cheating us out of some birthright. And, Alaska warned "starting at."

I just looked for April 30/May 1 for TYO-LAX and it’s still 60,000 for Business Class.

Did this just start this morning??

Is there the possibility to fly from Europe-Asia now with JL at least?

Glad I got JFK-HND in first booked already. Now here’s to hoping I get the new suite!

Disagree with you Kendall. If that is the case, why do they kept 70 k first class consistent until now? They event sent out an email saying that so far nothing have been changed. They did not gave us a specific date on which day this new dynamic pricing will kick in. I am very disappointed at Alaska and will no longer consider them to be the most valuable loyalty program going forward.

The article says J between Japan and the west coast didn’t change.

It sure did, didn’t it:-)

Thanks for pointing that out! PHEW!!

Ouch. That one hurts, this was how I used most of my Alaska miles and I was waiting for the new cabins to come out to book something, especially because ANA has become completely impossible to book. Very disappointed!

They didn't need to tell us which day the price will change. As soon as they launched the new award chart, we knew the price could increase at any moment. As I said, everyone saw this coming. We were lucky that they even gave us a couple extra months at the 70k price, nobody expected that

My viewpoint as an AS 100k is this: four years ago fly AS 100k miles=280k RDM, now fly AS 100k=350k RDM! For AS flyers we're still ahead, and that doesn't seem all that bad!

Exactly.

It's award price inflation!

Luckily we were able to book our flights to Japan back in December. We have made the decision just this week to drop our AS credit cards after 20 plus years. There is almost no availability of AS British AL awards in 2024 so where to use miles. Feels crazy to use 70k miles to fly to Hawaii. It was great while it lasted. We will always remember our first class Emirates flight for hardly any miles.

Devaluations happen, but it's not a fair comparison between AA miles and Alaska miles as Alaska miles are still given based on distance and not spend. You can rack up Alaska miles very easily (if you fly) compared to AA. I guess something has to give.

I found SFO-HND F increased from 70k to 85k. C remains at 60k as you wrote.

Ben, you remind me of a friend of mine, WHO WANTS EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING

@ Todd -- You remind me of someone who adds no value to a topic.

Thank for adding literally nothing to the conversation.

It's too late now. As long as we have blogs like these blaring upon low mileage awards etc etc then get ready for devaluation after devaluation as the accounts department of these airlines get alerted by people like Ben!

Just waiting for the other shoe to drop now. Can't imagine Cathay being far behind in devaluation.

I know companies get some compensation for the points, but its clearly not very profitable or airlines would be actually make it easy to book. With inflation and the way prices have gone up, expect massive devaluation of points/awards in the coming year.

Aww, Todd. Do you own ALK? Down 4% today. 😉

It's profitable, it's just not as profitable to fill a premium cabin seat with a saver award as it is with a cash paying passenger. If you look at the dollar value of the number of points needed for a saver premium cabin seat, it's even lower than the lowest discount cash fares you would see. Intuitively, this makes sense, that's why people are so eager to have saver award redemptions rather than pay any cash fare that's available, because it's cheaper on an equivalent basis. Airlines don't want to sell cheap tickets, and they definitely don't want to sell a cheap ticket that they otherwise would have gotten much more cash for

yes, pricing has increased without notice. That sucks.
But what is far worse, Japan Airlines business class availability on points on Alaska Airlines from LAX to Tokyo (either airport) has evaporated. I checked June through January and found one business class seat on JAL for points. *One* on JAL through January. Last week, the pickings were slim (I’ve been checking), but boom, they’re (almost) all gone. What’s happened with Alaska and JAL?

Is booking JAL with AS points refundable?

AlaskaMP continues its slide into irrelevancy.
Its domectic awards were always pretty trashy, and now it's partner awards are in for the same treatment.
The promise of a better revamped program in OW has come to next to nothing so far as partner awards are concerned.
The IT is miserable, with the necessity to phone in for many, many partner awards which may or may not be there. The call centre agents, lovely as many of them are, haven't been very well trained and can't cope with anything out of the ordinary ( which is why youv'e phoned) and will charge you the phone fee for something unavailable on-line if you don't watch what they are doing.
MP has gone from my favorite of 8 or so years ago to one I rarely attempt to book an award on now.
Sad.

Would someone kindly translate Anthony's post for me?

Many OW prtners are just not giving inventory to Alaska, simple as that.
Don't know why, but suspect it's all to do with MONEY.
It is meant to be a two-way street, but Alaska wants it both ways, and won't play fairly.

So, will you update your high valuation of Alaska miles, Lucky? And for that matter, how about all of the other programs which have recently, and hugely, devalued?

It’s time to start ditching the whole airline loyalty scheme. If you devalue loyalty you simply end it. Good things go bad and bad things go bust.

My friend spotted some devaluation on CX, too. Details are not yet seen but 22.5k to 27.5k. Damn.

Precisely this. If you are a 100k, AS's plan is still more than profitable. 350k RDM will get you a lot of flights around the world compared to a program like SkyPesos where 350k might get you a single flight. It was inevitable that award charts would change.

Been lurking on Alaska's website literally 2-3 times a day for the past month looking for a 1-way from TYO to WAS. Until this week, my searches showed Econ/Biz/First - now it only shows Econ/First (with NO availability in first for 3+ months). So in addition to increasing redemptions, it appears (at least to the DC area) they no longer even show biz awards as an option and first shows up, but with no availability. Very frustrating.

Get off his case, Todd. This is just a game we're all playing!

Ha ha

While this is certainly a big disappointment, are free stopovers still in place?

Yes, but not back to cash

Ben, Please do a new post on the best Alaska miles sweet spots that are still alive. Time to burn...

I don't agree with the IT part. Are they great? no. But if you want horrid, head over to Iberia. Be prepared for intermittent log in troubles for no reason at all, PW reset emails that never come, constant crashes on the site when searching awards, having to clear browser history every 3-5 searches, and a whole host of other issues.

AS IT isn't great, but it isn't the worst by a long shot.