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Air France La Premiere Routes: Which Flights Have The New 777 First Class?

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Air France exclusively has its La Premiere first class cabin on just over two dozen Boeing 777-300ERs, operating select long haul flights out of Paris Charles de Gaulle (CDG). These planes are in the process of being reconfigured, and Air France has so far updated the interiors of 17 jets.

You'll now find these updated 777-300ERs flying from Paris (CDG) to Abidjan (ABJ), Los Angeles (LAX), Miami (MIA), New York (JFK), San Francisco (SFO), Singapore (SIN), and Tokyo (HND), on select frequencies. Obviously this is exciting for those in first class, but it's also positive for others, between the new business class cabins, plus the consistent availability of Starlink Wi-Fi.

What do you make of Air France's plans for its refreshed four cabin Boeing 777-300ERs?


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I see AF everyday at IAH it’s always a350.


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You may want to check AF274 and AF275 (CDG-HND-CDG), not sure they're flying with LP these days. For sure, AF278 and AF279 have it, as I have an LP booking on one of these coming up very soon.


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Willy, if you do not have a very good AF LP flight, I will be most surprised. I might even eat Walter Mitty’s hat …. 🙂

With eating in mind, you might like to give
La Train Bleu, Gare de Lyon a squirt. If you do not know it then you might be put off because it is in a railway station, don’t be.


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(@Charlie)
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I wish Swiss would leave the Lufthansa Group. Their old first class was good but the new version is hopeless and with barely 3 seats per flight instead of 8 it won't last long. Why don't Lufthansa group swallow their pride over the Allegris debacle and look to Air France's 4 seats per row, comfort par excellence approach?


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 DS
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Agreed. It’s a significant downgrade. At least J is better if you study hard enough to figure out what seat to pick.


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No thanks - sitting on a coat hanger is not comfortable .


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 Jj
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How can they leave if they were bought by LH because of bankruptcy..


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Albert, I know that it is early morning here in the ‘Old Country’, but I am awake …. ‘onest! Yet I really do not understand what you are posting about, care to elaborate?


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I just booked CDG-SFO for September and it shows the new config.


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I fly F in the US and J across oceans. If I flew F internationally, it would only meant charities would get less when I die. I'll never do international F. Stupidly wasteful it is (Yoda).


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"I'm poor."

-This comes to mind, in lots and lots of words 🙂


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I'm booked in one Houston IAH-CDG in late July so IAH is getting it also at some point soon


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 23H
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AF.com displays the new suite from SFO from 13 August.


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(@Gordon)
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Charlie … your Allegris comment is just stupid and asinine.


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(@SFODan)
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No way, I just booked this!!


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I see AF everyday at IAH it’s always a350.


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That's now changed, they're all 77Ws these days going as AF98/99


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You may want to check AF274 and AF275 (CDG-HND-CDG), not sure they're flying with LP these days. For sure, AF278 and AF279 have it, as I have an LP booking on one of these coming up very soon.


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Willy, if you do not have a very good AF LP flight, I will be most surprised. I might even eat Walter Mitty’s hat …. 🙂

With eating in mind, you might like to give
La Train Bleu, Gare de Lyon a squirt. If you do not know it then you might be put off because it is in a railway station, don’t be.


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AF278/AF279 are Narita and last flew 7 years ago, so unless there's some joke I'm missing here, I think you're confused.


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"AF278/AF279 are Narita and last flew 7 years ago, so unless there's some joke I'm missing here, I think you're confused."

LOVE the passive aggression. One thing about passive aggression - if you're going to use it, you need to be sure you're right, or you look uninformed and silly, and people are embarrassed for you.

AF279 is currently HND-CDG, has been for some time, and flies five days a week. I was ON this flight last month. Unless there's some joke I'm missing here, I think you are confused. You should look at something called the "internet" and see for yourself.

The more you know...


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You have the numbers wrong, thus my confusion. AF 278 isn't CDG-HND, it's AF 274. This is easily verifiable by a simple Google search.

I was wrong in assuming that the return was AF 275 rather than AF 279; so you are right in that HND-CDG is AF 279.

"For sure, AF278 and AF279 have it" ... AF 278 does not exist.


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I wish Swiss would leave the Lufthansa Group. Their old first class was good but the new version is hopeless and with barely 3 seats per flight instead of 8 it won't last long. Why don't Lufthansa group swallow their pride over the Allegris debacle and look to Air France's 4 seats per row, comfort par excellence approach?


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Agreed. It’s a significant downgrade. At least J is better if you study hard enough to figure out what seat to pick.


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How can they leave if they were bought by LH because of bankruptcy..


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Charlie … your Allegris comment is just stupid and asinine.


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No thanks - sitting on a coat hanger is not comfortable .


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Albert, I know that it is early morning here in the ‘Old Country’, but I am awake …. ‘onest! Yet I really do not understand what you are posting about, care to elaborate?


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I just booked CDG-SFO for September and it shows the new config.


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I fly F in the US and J across oceans. If I flew F internationally, it would only meant charities would get less when I die. I'll never do international F. Stupidly wasteful it is (Yoda).


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I'm booked in one Houston IAH-CDG in late July so IAH is getting it also at some point soon


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 23H
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AF.com displays the new suite from SFO from 13 August.


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No way, I just booked this!!


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 23H
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TLV has been operational again for more than a month…


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I have an AF flight booked to IAH in a few months specifically hoping for an upgrade to LP!


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Assuming that you're already booked into AF biz? If so, is it on a paid/cash ticket?

AF changed the policy so that *officially,* only PAID/CASH biz. tickets are eligible for cash upgrade at checkin or at the airport. That said, I've read reports about how it's not enforced at all stations that have LP service, so YMMV if you're on an award. If you're on a cash ticket and want to pay for the upgrade, try and check in as soon as online checkin opens to see if you're offered the upgrade. They seem (anecdotally) to range from US $1,500 to US $2,500. On my last few LP flights, AF was showing LP availability for at least two seats the day before the flight, but the cabin went out full the day of, which I'm assuming are upgrades because business was *not* full on a couple of those segments.

Personally I have no idea how and when and if the upgrades work, because I'm always on a cash ticket or an award (EXPENSIVE at 350,000 o.w. for almost all segments), so I'm confirmed when I book and I've never played upgrade roulette myself.

Good luck to you!


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@Ben, every JFK flight is showing as having the new La Premier now, per their site and in Sabre.


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Ooh lala! We’re LP’n ‘ere! Fuhgeddaboudit!


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In September 2025, Air France mentioned that it's considering La Premier for upcoming A350s, but that no final decision had been made. Was Fabien Pelous who made the announcement.


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