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Air France-KLM Credit Card Bonus: 70K Miles + Up To 100 XPs

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The Air France-KLM World Elite Mastercard has been in the US market for several years now, and is issued by Bank of America. We’re increasingly seeing non-US airlines launch credit cards in the United States, and that’s pretty cool.

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(@Dick Bupkiss)
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Is there a business version of this card available? Asking for a friend.


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(@Michael)
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D**n! I just got the card three weeks ago with the lower bonuses.

Ugh.


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Diamond
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Wow I had no idea how good a deal this was. Am now strongly considering getting this card to help me get to AF Platinum, especially after experiencing my first La Premiere flight last month—would love to be able to redeem points for it!

I will be getting Gold status with AF next month with another Delta flight I have booked then. Should I wait until I have Gold status and then get this card? Or does it not matter for how status is earned? (In other words, if I am only 3 XP away from Gold and have a transaction that gives me 60 XP like card approval, would the extra 57 XP roll over and count towards Platinum qualification?)


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(@TProphet)
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Beware: If you credit points from this card to your Flying Blue account, it's the same as crediting a flight to Flying Blue. Why is that bad? If you have points earned from flights, you can't extend them with a credit card transfer. Instead, you actually have to credit flights to Flying Blue (or spend from the credit card). It's a sneaky way to lock you into keeping the card.

Also, if you haven't booked with Flying Blue in awhile, keep in mind that they have hugely devalued the program. It's very hard to find business class availability that doesn't start in the 6 figures these days, and 7 figures isn't uncommon.


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(@treyciford)
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Until Flying Blue makes good on their promise to "significantly increase entry level award availability" (which they made almost two months ago), I would stay away. The available saver fares are still too few and far between.


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 Mike
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Crazy it doesn't even include a free checked bags lol


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(@Mateo)
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They give you 100XP which is silver status. Silver status gives you 1 free checked bag on all Skyteam carriers.


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(@Mateo)
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With silver status (which you get from this card) your flying blue miles will not expire.


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Diamond
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The last two years, we used Flying Blue miles to fly Air France or KLM to/from Atlanta. Their rewards pricing is much better than Delta. And for those trips, we have gotten extra value from transfer bonuses. I have the card, but I’m thinking of getting one for my wife to get the extra 70k miles. That 5k on the anniversary more than covers the annual fee based on my tracking of the value I get from Flying Blue miles.


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With the 5k anniversary miles, that more than covers the annual fee in value for me. While you’re right about it being hard to find award flights for less than six figures, it’s hard to find that on any carrier since my travels are generally in the summer or around holidays. I love in Atlanta, and Flying Blue is much cheaper than trying to use miles on Delta anymore. I’ve basically given up on Delta for international Delta One.


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BTW, your link showed me 50k miles with $2000 spend.


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(@Lukas)
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They should roll over but you should consider that your new qualification period might start earlier. it‘s another 12 month to go for the missing 243 xp as far as I understand


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(@Turnover)
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How churn-able is this card? Get it in year 1, cancel at end. Wait two years (2 and 3) and can get it at beginning of year 4?


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 PV
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Like for others, your link is only showing an offer for 50000 miles after $2k spend and, crucially, no 40xp on sign-up, "only"the 60 after min spend. Is anyone finding the better offer?


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 70k
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Just Google the offer. I just tried and it was the terms Ben said.


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(@Missy)
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AF offers little to no value for must of us these days with 98% of the saver awards POOF GONE! Unless u want to spend 130k+ points for J.


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(@Frustration)
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I agree. I been looking for a month, every day. It's annoying as shit.


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(@Dick Bupkiss)
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Is there a business version of this card available? Asking for a friend.


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(@Michael)
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D**n! I just got the card three weeks ago with the lower bonuses.

Ugh.


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Diamond
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Wow I had no idea how good a deal this was. Am now strongly considering getting this card to help me get to AF Platinum, especially after experiencing my first La Premiere flight last month—would love to be able to redeem points for it!

I will be getting Gold status with AF next month with another Delta flight I have booked then. Should I wait until I have Gold status and then get this card? Or does it not matter for how status is earned? (In other words, if I am only 3 XP away from Gold and have a transaction that gives me 60 XP like card approval, would the extra 57 XP roll over and count towards Platinum qualification?)


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(@Lukas)
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They should roll over but you should consider that your new qualification period might start earlier. it‘s another 12 month to go for the missing 243 xp as far as I understand


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(@TProphet)
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Beware: If you credit points from this card to your Flying Blue account, it's the same as crediting a flight to Flying Blue. Why is that bad? If you have points earned from flights, you can't extend them with a credit card transfer. Instead, you actually have to credit flights to Flying Blue (or spend from the credit card). It's a sneaky way to lock you into keeping the card.

Also, if you haven't booked with Flying Blue in awhile, keep in mind that they have hugely devalued the program. It's very hard to find business class availability that doesn't start in the 6 figures these days, and 7 figures isn't uncommon.


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(@Mateo)
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With silver status (which you get from this card) your flying blue miles will not expire.


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Diamond
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With the 5k anniversary miles, that more than covers the annual fee in value for me. While you’re right about it being hard to find award flights for less than six figures, it’s hard to find that on any carrier since my travels are generally in the summer or around holidays. I love in Atlanta, and Flying Blue is much cheaper than trying to use miles on Delta anymore. I’ve basically given up on Delta for international Delta One.


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Until Flying Blue makes good on their promise to "significantly increase entry level award availability" (which they made almost two months ago), I would stay away. The available saver fares are still too few and far between.


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 Mike
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Crazy it doesn't even include a free checked bags lol


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(@Mateo)
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They give you 100XP which is silver status. Silver status gives you 1 free checked bag on all Skyteam carriers.


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(@Billy jack)
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You get free checked bags for the first year only. And flying blue program is on life support. This card is a shameless money grab providing no real benefits to customers after year one…KLM/AF hope is that subscribe to their stupid monthly subscription


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Diamond
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The last two years, we used Flying Blue miles to fly Air France or KLM to/from Atlanta. Their rewards pricing is much better than Delta. And for those trips, we have gotten extra value from transfer bonuses. I have the card, but I’m thinking of getting one for my wife to get the extra 70k miles. That 5k on the anniversary more than covers the annual fee based on my tracking of the value I get from Flying Blue miles.


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(@Throwawayname)
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DL sell Africa-S. America tickets on AF via CDG for 100k miles each way in business class. Good luck pricing that up on Flying Blue.


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Diamond
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BTW, your link showed me 50k miles with $2000 spend.


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(@Turnover)
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How churn-able is this card? Get it in year 1, cancel at end. Wait two years (2 and 3) and can get it at beginning of year 4?


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 PV
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Like for others, your link is only showing an offer for 50000 miles after $2k spend and, crucially, no 40xp on sign-up, "only"the 60 after min spend. Is anyone finding the better offer?


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 70k
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Just Google the offer. I just tried and it was the terms Ben said.


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(@Missy)
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AF offers little to no value for must of us these days with 98% of the saver awards POOF GONE! Unless u want to spend 130k+ points for J.


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(@Frustration)
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I agree. I been looking for a month, every day. It's annoying as shit.


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Jesus, not again... Whatever happened to making Platinum (somewhat) exclusive (considering the low qualification in the first place)?


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Diamond
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Anyone else receiving the 100K offer in their email? Structured as a 2 part offer: 70K after $3k in 3 months and an extra 30K after a total of $7.5K in 6 months. Seems to be an all time high offer!


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 Lv
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I got this one and my spouse got the 70k offer.


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(@Throwawayname)
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No wonder they've started blocking partner availability even for the dates and routes when the 'cheap' 85k redemptions are available- they need to make space for their credit card customers. There's no business class availability on AFKL to anywhere in the Cono Sur using SK miles from the beginning of Oct until 19 Nov- not a single seat!


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 BBT
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It's not just the saver awards are hardly ever available. But the fact that the taxes have just gone through the roof that even with saver awards this is just not a great redemption.

Hard pass!


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 Lq
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20 XP + 80 XP + 60 XP = 160 XP from spending, not 180 right? You’d still be 20 XP short of gold status as I understand it.


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 Lee
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Receipt of XPs upon approval (or via SUB) is only once every 24 months. So, if someone is starting "new," they'll receive 100 XPs. That will trigger FB Silver and their FB membership year is reset. Let's say October. IF the card's anniversary 160 XPs hit before the person's reset FB membership anniversary date and IF the person earned another 20 XPs via paid flights, then the person would advance to FB Gold. To sustain FB Gold, the person would need to earn the extra 20 XPs that you note.

However, the timing of the card's anniversary 160 XPs might be problematic. If they hit in November and are not deemed credited in October, thus after the person's reset FB membership anniversary date, the person will drop down to FB Blue and 0 XPs. And, when the 160 XPs are credited, the person will move back up to FB Silver with an excess of 60 XPs (or 80 XPs with the earned XPs in the example above). Now, to move up to FB Gold, the person must earn 120 XPs (or 100 XPs) to reach FB Gold.


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 BBT
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The last time this was posted it was just before the latest devaluation.
Even than the 70k FB points were not enticing because of high taxes and fees.
Now you cannot even get a saver award with 70k that includes lounge access or an award that is refundable even with a penalty.


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 Lee
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Benz do you still have this card?


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I wouldn't apply for a DieTeam credit card or status if you put a gun to my head.


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