Over the past couple of years we’ve seen Delta and United both switch to at least somewhat revenue based frequent flyer programs. Delta and United both:
- Require you to spend a certain amount of money to get status
- Award redeemable miles based on how much you spend as opposed to how much you fly
- Still award elite qualifying miles based on how much you fly
In other words, to be rewarded you can’t just spend a lot or fly a lot. You have to do both. And that’s fair enough…
But all that gets even trickier when partner airlines are involved. Both Delta and United continue to award miles for travel on partner airlines based on distance flown as opposed to money spent (tracking spend on partner airlines would prove challenging).
With the introduction of revenue based programs, airlines are for the most part less rewarding for cheap fares and more rewarding for expensive fares.
United MileagePlus just announced their new mileage earnings rates for travel on partner airlines as of March 1, 2015 (which is also when United starts awarding miles based on revenue for travel on their own metal). The changes are negative overall, as you’d expect. Some premium fare classes earn more miles, but for the most part earnings rates are staying the same or going down.
I put together charts comparing the new and old earnings rates.
Star Alliance earnings rates:
Airline | Fare Type | Fare Class | Earning Rate Prior to 3/1/15 | Fare Class | Earning Rate After 3/1/15 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Adria | Business | J, C, D, Z | 125% | J, C, D, Z | 100% |
Adria | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B, P | 100% |
Adria | Economy | P, M, E, H, Q, V, W | 100% | M, U, H, G | 75% |
Adria | Discount Economy | T, G, K, L, U | 50% | Q, E, T, V, W, S | 50% |
Adria | No Mileage Credit | – | – | A, O, L, K | 0% |
Aegean Airlines | Business | C, D, Z, A | 125% | C, D, Z, A | 125% |
Aegean Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Aegean Airlines | Economy | – | – | M, G, O | 100% |
Aegean Airlines | Discount Economy | – | – | S, Q, K, J | 75% |
Aegean Airlines | Deep Discount Economy | M, L, W, G, O, S, K, Q, J, H, E | 100% | L, W, H, E | 50% |
Air Canada | Executive Class | J, C, D | 175% | J, C, D, Z, P | 200% |
Air Canada | Discount Executive Class | Z, P | 150% | – | – |
Air Canada | Premium Economy | O, E, N | 100% | O, E, N | 100% |
Air Canada | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
Air Canada | Economy | M, U, H, Q, V, W, G | 100% | M, U, H | 100% |
Air Canada | Discount Economy | – | – | Q, V, W, G | 75% |
Air Canada | Discount Economy | S, T, A, L, K | 100% | S, T, L, A, K | 50% |
Air Canada | Discount Economy | S, T, A, L, K | 25%1 | S, T, L, A, K | 25%2 |
Air China | First | F, A, P | 150% | F, A, P | 150% |
Air China | Business | C | 125% | C | 125% |
Air China | Discount Business | D, J, Z | 125% | D, J, Z | 125% |
Air China | Full-Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Air China | Economy | M, H, K, L, W | 100% | M, H, K, L, W | 100% |
Air China | Discount Economy | Q, G, S, V, U, T, E | 50%3 | Q, G, S, V, U, T, E | 50%3 |
Air China | No Mileage Credit | O, R, I X, N | 0% | O, R, I X, N | 0% |
Air India | First Class | F, A | 150% | F, A | 150% |
Air India | Business | C, D, J, Z | 125% | C, D, J, Z | 125% |
Air India | Full-Fare Economy | Y, B, M, H, K, Q, V, W, G | 100% | Y, B, M, H, K, Q, V, W, G | 100% |
Air India | Discount Economy | L, U, T, S, E | 50% | L, U, T, S, E | 50% |
Air New Zealand | International Business | C, D, J, Z | 125% | J, C, D, Z | 125% |
Air New Zealand | Pacific Premium Economy | U, E, O, A | 100% | U, E, O, A | 100% |
Air New Zealand | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Air New Zealand | Economy | H, M, Q, V, W, T | 100% | M, H, Q | 75% |
Air New Zealand | Discount Economy | – | – | V, W, T | 50% |
Air New Zealand | Trans-Tasman Business | C, D, J, Z | 125% | C, D, J, Z | 125% |
Air New Zealand | Full Fare Economy | Y, B, M, H, Q, U | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Air New Zealand | Economy | – | – | M, H, Q | 75% |
Air New Zealand | Intra-New Zealand Full Fare Economy | Y, B, H, M, V, Q | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Air New Zealand | Economy | – | – | M, H, Q | 75% |
Air New Zealand | Discount Economy | – | – | V | 50% |
ANA | First | F, A | F | 350% | |
ANA | Discount First | – | – | A | 300% |
ANA | Business | J, C, D | J, C | 300% | |
ANA | Business | – | – | D | 250% |
ANA | Discount Business | Z, P | 150% | Z, P | 150% |
ANA | Full Fare Economy | Y, E | 125% | Y | 150% |
ANA | Economy | B, M, U, H, Q, V, W, S | 100% / 70%4 | B, M | 125% |
ANA | Economy | – | – | E | 100% |
ANA | Discount Economy | L, T, K | 100% / 50%4 | U, H, Q | 75% |
ANA | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | V, W, S, L, T | 50% |
ANA | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | K | 25% |
Asiana | Premium First | P | P | 200% | |
Asiana | First | F, A | 150% | F, A | 150% |
Asiana | Business | J | 135% | J | 135% |
Asiana | Business | C, D, Z | 125% | C, D, Z | 125% |
Asiana | Discount Business | U | 100% | U | 100% |
Asiana | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Asiana | Economy | M, H, E, K, Q, S | 100% | M, H, E, K, Q, S | 100% |
Asiana | Discount Economy | G, T, V, W | 70% | G, T, V, W | 70% |
Austrian | Business | C, D, J | 175% | C, D, J | 200% |
Austrian | Discount Business | Z | 150% | Z | 150% |
Austrian | Deep Discount Business | P | 100% | P | 100% |
Austrian | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
Austrian | Economy | M, H, Q, G | 100% | M, U, H, G | 100% |
Austrian | Discount Economy | V, U, W | 100% | Q, V, W | 75% |
Austrian | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | S, T, E, L, K | 50% |
Avianca5 | Business | C | 125% | C | 125% |
Avianca5| Discount Business | D, J | 125% | D, J | 100% |
Avianca5 | Full-fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
Avianca5 | Economy | M, H, Q, V, A, E, G, K, L, O, P | 100% | G, K, L, O, P | 100% |
Avianca5 | Discount full-fare Economy | – | – | M, H, Q, V, A, E | 100% |
Avianca5 | Discount Economy | W, Z | 75% | W, Z, U, T, S | 50% |
Avianca5 | Discount Economy | S | 50% | – | – |
Avianca5| Deep Discount Economy | U, T | 25% | – | – |
Brussels Airlines | Business | J, C | 175% | J, C, D | 200% |
Brussels Airlines | Discount Business | D, Z | 150% | Z | 150% |
Brussels Airlines | Deep Discount Business | – | – | P | 100% |
Brussels Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
Brussels Airlines | Economy | M, U, H, K, Q, V | 100% | M, U, H, G | 100% |
Brussels Airlines | Discount Economy | W, S, G | 100% | Q, V, W | 75% |
Brussels Airlines | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | S, K, T, L, E, N | 50% |
Copa Airlines | Business Flex6 | C | 175% | C | 100% |
Copa Airlines | Business Promo | D | 150% | D | 100% |
Copa Airlines | Economy Flex | Y, B, M, H, Q | 125% | Y, B, M, H, Q | 100% |
Copa Airlines | Economy Plus | – | – | K, V, U, S, W, E | 75% |
Copa Airlines | Economy Extra | K, V, U, S, W, E | 100% | – | – |
Copa Airlines | Economy Promo | L, T, N | 100% | L, T, N | 50% |
Croatia Airlines | Business | C, D, Z | 125% | C, D | 125% |
Croatia Airlines | Discount Business | – | – | Z | 100% |
Croatia Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B, A, F | 100% | Y, B, A, F, M | 100% |
Croatia Airlines | Economy | M, H, K, Q, V | 100% | H, K, Q, V, W, O, J | 75% |
Croatia Airlines | Discount Economy | W, J, S, P, O | 50% | S, P, E, L, T, U | 50% |
EgyptAir | First | F, A, P | 150% | F | 150% |
EgyptAir | Discount First | – | – | A, P | 100% |
EgyptAir | Business | C | 125% | C, D | 125% |
EgyptAir | Discount Business | D, J, Z | 125% | J, Z | 100% |
EgyptAir | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B, M, H | 100% |
EgyptAir | Economy | M, H, Q, K | 100% | Q, K | 75% |
EgyptAir | Discount Economy | V, L | 50% | V, L | 50% |
EgyptAir | Deep Discount Economy | E, G, W, T, U, S | 25% | E, G, W, T, U, S | 25% |
Ethiopian Airlines | Business | C, J, D | 125% | C, J, D | 125% |
Ethiopian Airlines | Full Fare Economy | G, S, B, Y | 100% | G, S, B, Y | 100% |
Ethiopian Airlines | Economy | M, K, L, V, H, U, Q, T, W, E, O | 100% | M, K, L, V, H, U, Q, T, W, E, O | 100% |
EVA Airways | Business | C, J, D | 125% | C, J, D | 125% |
EVA Airways | Full Fare Economy | K, L, Y, B | 100% | K, L, Y, B | 100% |
EVA Airways | Discount Full Fare Economy | T, M | 100% | – | – |
EVA Airways | Economy | – | – | T, M | 100% |
EVA Airways | Discount Economy | H, S | 75% | H, S, Q | 50% |
EVA Airways | Discount Economy | Q | 50% | – | – |
LOT Polish Airlines | Business | C, D, Z | 125% | C, D | 125% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Discount Business | – | – | Z | 100% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Premium Economy | A, P | 105% | A, P | 100% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B, R | 100% | Y, B, R | 100% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Discount Full-fare Economy | M | 70% | M | 75% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Economy | E, G, H, K, Q, T, V | 50% | E, G, H, K, Q, T, V | 50% |
LOT Polish Airlines | Discount Economy | L, S, W | 25% | L, S, W | 25% |
Lufthansa | First | F, A | 250% | F, A | 200% |
Lufthansa | Business | J, C, D | 175% | J, C, D | 200% |
Lufthansa | Discount Business | Z | 150% | Z | 150% |
Lufthansa | Deep Discount Business | P | 100% | P | 100% |
Lufthansa | Premium Economy | G, E | 150% | G, E | 150% |
Lufthansa | Discount Premium Economy | N | 100% | N | 100% |
Lufthansa | Full-fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
Lufthansa | Economy | M, H, Q, V, U, W, S | 100% | M, H, U | 100% |
Lufthansa | Discount Economy | T, L | 100% | Q, V, W | 75% |
Lufthansa | Discount Economy within Europe only | T, L | 0% | – | – |
Lufthansa | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | S, T, L | 50% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Business | C, D, Z | 175% | C, D, Z | 150% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Premium Economy | P, A, J, Y, S, B | 175% | J | 125% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Premium Economy | – | – | P, A, Y, S, B | 100% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Economy | E, M, H, Q, V | 100% | E, M | 100% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Discount Economy | W, U, G, K, L, T, O | 100% | H, Q, V | 75% |
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | W, U, G, K, L, T, O | 50% |
Shenzhen Airlines | First | F, A, P | 150% | F, A, P | 150% |
Shenzhen Airlines | Business | C, D | 125% | C, D | 125% |
Shenzhen Airlines | Full-Fare Economy | Y, B, M, H, K, L | 100% | Y, B, M, H, K, L | 100% |
Shenzhen Airlines | Discount Economy | J, Q, W, Z, G, S, V, U, T, E | 50% | J, Q, W, Z, G, S, V, U, T, E | 50% |
Shenzhen Airlines | No Mileage Credit | O, I, R, X, N | 0% | O, I, R, X, N | 0% |
Singapore Airlines | Suites | R | 150% | R | 150% |
Singapore Airlines | First | F, P, A | 150% | F | 150% |
Singapore Airlines | Discount First | – | – | A | 125% |
Singapore Airlines | Business | Z, C, J | 125% | Z, C, J | 125% |
Singapore Airlines | Discount Business | D | 100% | U, D | 100% |
Singapore Airlines | Full Fare Economy | S, Y | 100% | S, T, P, Y, B | 100% |
Singapore Airlines | Economy | B, E, M, H, W, U, L, K | 100% | E, M | 75% |
Singapore Airlines | Discount Economy | – | – | H, W, L | 50% |
South African Airways | Business | J, C, D | 125% | J, C, D | 125% |
South African Airways | Discount Business | Z | 125% | Z | 100% |
South African Airways | Full Fare Economy | – | – | Y, B, M, K, H | 100% |
South African Airways | Economy | Y, B, M, K, H, S, Q | 100% | S, Q | 75% |
South African Airways | Discount Economy | T, V, L, W, G | 50% | T, V, L, W, G | 50% |
SWISS Airlines | First | F, A | 250% | F, A | 200% |
SWISS Airlines | Business | J, C, D, Z | 175% | J, C, D | 200% |
SWISS Airlines | Discount Business | P | 150% | Z | 150% |
SWISS Airlines | Discount Business | – | – | P | 100% |
SWISS Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
SWISS Airlines | Economy | Q, U, W, M, V, G, H, S, T, E | 100% | M, U, H, G | 100% |
SWISS Airlines | Discount Economy | – | – | Q, S, V, W | 75% |
SWISS Airlines | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | E, K, L, T | 50% |
TAP Portugal | Business | C, D, Z, J | 125% | C, D, Z, J | 125% |
TAP Portugal | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B | 100% |
TAP Portugal | Economy | M, H, Q, V, W | 100% | M, H, Q, V, W | 100% |
TAP Portugal | Discount Economy | S, L, K, U, G | 50% | S, L, K, U, G | 50% |
THAI Airways | First | F, A, P | 150% | F, A | 150% |
THAI Airways | Discount First | – | – | P | 100% |
THAI Airways | Business | C, D, J | 125% | C, D, J | 125% |
THAI Airways | Discount Business | Z | 125% | Z | 100% |
THAI Airways | Premium Economy | U | 100% | U | 100% |
THAI Airways | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | Y, B, M, H | 100% |
THAI Airways | Economy | M, H, Q, T, K, S, G, V, W | 100% | Q, T | 75% |
THAI Airways | Discount Economy | – | – | K, S | 50% |
Turkish Airlines | Business | C, D, K | 125% | C, D, K | 125% |
Turkish Airlines | Discount Business | J | 100% | J | 100% |
Turkish Airlines | Business Upgrade | F | 100% | F | 100% |
Turkish Airlines | Comfort Class | U, A, O | 100% | U, A, O | 100% |
Turkish Airlines | Economy7 | – | – | Y, B, M, H, S | 100% |
Turkish Airlines | Full Fare Economy | Y, B | 100% | – | – |
Turkish Airlines | Discount Economy | M, H, S, E, Q, V, T, L | 100% | E, Q | 75% |
Turkish Airlines | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | V, T, L | 50% |
Turkish Airlines | No Mileage Credit | – | – | W, G, P | 0% |
1 Flights within Canada and between Canada and the U.S., the Caribbean, Central America or Mexico.
2 Flights within Canada only
3 Members earn a minimum of 250 base miles on Q, G, S, V, U, T, and E purchased fare classes
4 Higher earnings rates apply to ANA-operated flights within Japan with an international connection; and ANA-operated flights that are trans-Pacific or intra-Asia (excluding flights between Japan and Australia, mainland China or India)
5 See link for intra-Columbia rates
6 See link for intra-Columbia rates
7 See link for AnadoluJet-operated flights
Other MileagePlus partners:
Airline | Fare Type | Fare Class | Earning Rate Prior to 3/1/15 | Fare Class | Earning Rate After 3/1/15 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Aer Lingus | Business | C,D, J | 150% | C,D, J | 100% |
Aer Lingus | Economy between North America and Ireland | Y, B, H, K, M, V, N | 75% | Y, B, H, K, M, V, NC, D, J | 100% |
Aer Lingus | Economy between North America and Ireland | L, X, S | 75% | L, X, S | 50% |
Aer Lingus | Economy between London and Dublin, Belfast, Shannon or Cork | Economy between Dublin and Manchester or Birmingham | Y, B, H, K, V, N, L, X, S | 250 miles | Y, B, H, K, V, N, L, X, S | 250 miles |
Aeromar | Economy | Y, B, M, S, Q, N, K, W, H, V, G, Z | 100% | Y, B, M, S, Q, N, K, W, H, V, G, Z | 100% |
Air Dolomiti | Business | A, C, D, F, H, J, P, R, G, O, U, Z | 125% | A, C, D, F, H, J, P, R, G, O, U, Z | 125% |
Air Dolomiti | Economy | B, Y, M, Q, V, W, S, E, K, L, N, T | 100% | B, Y, M, Q, V, W, S, E, K, L, N, T | 100% |
Azul | Business | C, D, I, J | 125% | C, D, I, J | 100% |
Azul | Full Fare Economy | Y, A, B, E, F, G, H, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, Z, U, V, W, X | 100% | Y, A, B, E, F, G, H | 100% |
Azul | Economy | – | – | K, L, M, N, O | 75% |
Azul | Discount Economy | – | – | P, Q, S, T, Z, U, V, W | 50% |
Azul | No Mileage Credit | – | – | R, X | 0% |
Cape Air | Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 125% |
Cape Air | Economy | – | – | M, E, U, H | 100% |
Cape Air | Discount Economy | M, E, G, H, K, L, N, Q, S, T, U, V, W | 100% | Q, V, W | 75% |
Cape Air | Discount Economy | – | – | S, T, L, K, G, N | 50% |
Edelweiss | First | – | – | F, A | 200% |
Edelweiss | Business | J, C, D, Z | 175% | J, C, D | 175% |
Edelweiss | Discount Business | – | – | Z | 150% |
Edelweiss | Discount Business | P | 150% | P | 100% |
Edelweiss | Full-Fare Economy | Y, B | 125% | Y, B | 150% |
Edelweiss | Economy | Q, U, W, M, V, G, H, S, T, E | 100% | M, U, H, G | 100% |
Edelweiss | Discount Economy | – | – | Q, S, V, W | 75% |
Edelweiss | Deep Discount Economy | – | – | E, K, L, T | 50% |
Germanwings | Best Fares | D, J | 125% | D, J | 125% |
Germanwings | Smart Fares | I, C, H, Q, V, W, S, G, K, L, T, X, Y, B, M, N, E, F, O, R | 100% | I, C, H, Q, V, W, S, G, K, L, T, X, Y, B, M, N, E, F, O, R | 100% |
Great Lakes | Economy | Y, C, D, I, R, A, E, K, N | 100% | Y, C, D, I, R, A, E, K, N | 100% |
Hawaiian | First | F, J, P, C | 150% | F, J, P, C | 150% |
Hawaiian | First | A | 100% | A | 100% |
Hawaiian | Economy | Y, W, X, Q, V, B, S, N, M, I, H, G, K, L | 100% | Y, W, X, Q, V, B, S, N, M, I, H, G, K, L | 100% |
Island Air | Full Fare Economy | – | – | F, A, C, J, Y, B, T, N, K, R, Z, I | 100% |
Island Air | Economy | F, D, G, R, Y, B, T, N, M, V, L, U, S, H, Q, E, K | 100% | V, L, U, G, M | 75% |
Island Air | Discount Economy | – | – | S, H, Q, E, D | 50% |
Jet Airways | First | F, A | 150% | F, A | 150% |
Jet Airways | Business | C, J, Z, I, P | 125% | C, J, Z, I, P | 125% |
Jet Airways | Economy | Y, M, T, U, N, L | 100% | Y, M, T, U, N, L | 100% |
Jet Airways | Discount Economy | Q, S | 50% | Q, S | 50% |
Silver Airways | Full Fare Economy | Y, B, M | 100% | Y, B, M | 100% |
Silver Airways | Economy | E, G, H, K, L, N, Q, S, T, U, V, W | 100% | E, G, H, K, L, N, Q, S, T, U, V, W | 100% |
Silver Airways | Discount Economy | – | – | Q, V, W | 75% |
Silver Airways | Discount Economy | – | – | K, L, N, S, T, U | 50% |
Bottom line
As you’d probably expect, the changes are sort of in line with United’s rewards structure for their own flights. Lower fares on partners are generally earning fewer miles, while expensive fares are a mixed bag. Some expensive fares earn more miles, while others earn fewer miles.
But overall I can’t help but point out just how damn complicated these programs are getting… and that’s coming from someone that obsesses over them 24/7.
Will the change in earnings rates for travel on MileagePlus partners impact your loyalty?
I recently flew a bargain basement Eithiopean Airlines economy ticket --> IAD-ADD connecting to ADD-ACC and received 20k PQM and 20k redeemable miles.
I didn't realize how lucky I was because my next RT a month later was a United ticket flying Lufthansa from IAD-FRA-ACC. This United ticket was obviously 50% more expensive. Result? 0 PQMs and 0 redeemable miles. The were in 2H 2015. I worked like a son of a gun to...
I recently flew a bargain basement Eithiopean Airlines economy ticket --> IAD-ADD connecting to ADD-ACC and received 20k PQM and 20k redeemable miles.
I didn't realize how lucky I was because my next RT a month later was a United ticket flying Lufthansa from IAD-FRA-ACC. This United ticket was obviously 50% more expensive. Result? 0 PQMs and 0 redeemable miles. The were in 2H 2015. I worked like a son of a gun to explain to United how idiotic their "improved system" had become. The MP Rep said go ahead then and book on Eithiopean!!
Thanks for making this chart. It's much more user-friendly than clicking through dozens of links on the United web site.
Do you have a version that shows United PQM earnings for partner airlines?
I noticed that on united.com you can't book a lot of partner airlines which would reward you better if you purchased it on United (and got miles for money spent). However, on United's mobile app you CAN book a lot of partner airlines. And that's just great when you are paying a lot for a business class ticket that is flying less than 1,000 miles. Change your rules UA, and I will fly a way to benefit....
DEC
The airline loyalty programs are not worth it. I fly every week for work on United. Since I am based by one of their hubs it is basically impossible for me to earn a high status. Gold is the best I could do - and that is traveling EVERY WEEK! In addition, I just realized that I booked a flight on a Star Alliance partner airline for our trip to Europe. I will be getting...
The airline loyalty programs are not worth it. I fly every week for work on United. Since I am based by one of their hubs it is basically impossible for me to earn a high status. Gold is the best I could do - and that is traveling EVERY WEEK! In addition, I just realized that I booked a flight on a Star Alliance partner airline for our trip to Europe. I will be getting 0% mileage accrual.
What a waste. It's a waste of time, effort, and money. I should fly Delta and connect every week, but I prefer to spend more time at home than in airports.
Lucky: thanks so much for the phenomenally helpful summary of the new earning rates all in a single chart. So nice to have this PDF-able chart available on one's phone! Any chance you might do a similar one that shows the PQM earn rates for M+ carriers?
@ sf_uniform -- I'll see what I can do! Thanks for the kind words.
I apologize in advance for all the quotation marks...What is so interesting [read disappointing] to me is how things are coming full circle...I have been w/ UA long enough to remember the days before Star Alliance and how difficult mileage credit/tracking/redeeming on "partner" airlines could be...Then behold, unto us a "Star" was born and everything was SUPPOSED to get better...You were no longer dealing w/ a "partner" airline, you were dealing w/ an "Alliance" ...Everything...
I apologize in advance for all the quotation marks...What is so interesting [read disappointing] to me is how things are coming full circle...I have been w/ UA long enough to remember the days before Star Alliance and how difficult mileage credit/tracking/redeeming on "partner" airlines could be...Then behold, unto us a "Star" was born and everything was SUPPOSED to get better...You were no longer dealing w/ a "partner" airline, you were dealing w/ an "Alliance" ...Everything was equal as long as you were dealing w/ an Alliance carrier [except you, my beloved SQ, we know all to well you were the exception to almost EVERY benefit]...Then, not too long ago, slowly, I noticed how things were beginning to change in the other 2 alliances and feared for my precious Star...Yes, now those fears are reality, and its looking more and more like 1995 every time I look at these updated "benefits"...
am i really the only one who noticed F.A.P. i'd bet good money the ordering was not happenstance.
this was my (and many, i'm sure) work around to UA's 3.1.15 award miles death. now, looks like the only hope is to route everything thru ICN.
combine all this with chase banning me for life (odd how no blogger/partners have been banned by one of their partners. hmmm....) and it's adios UA. as a collective we...
am i really the only one who noticed F.A.P. i'd bet good money the ordering was not happenstance.
this was my (and many, i'm sure) work around to UA's 3.1.15 award miles death. now, looks like the only hope is to route everything thru ICN.
combine all this with chase banning me for life (odd how no blogger/partners have been banned by one of their partners. hmmm....) and it's adios UA. as a collective we really need to throw as much business at AA as possible- enough to show up on their bottom line to such a degree as to make them think that being the only '1 mile, 1 mile earned' left standing makes sense to continue.
Does United want to bleed customers??? But a real question…maybe its just me but I am having a hard time finding where the UA website states what the PQM earning rate is on *A partner airlines. Any help here? Thanks
Does United want to bleed customers??? But a real question...maybe its just me but I am having a hard time finding where the UA website states what the PQM earning rate is on *A partner airlines. Any help here? Thanks
For the most part, I see this as a net positive right now in my life. For instance, I fly ANA J/C all the time and now that increases to 300%. I'm also lucky enough to fly almost always in premium classes or full fare, but this is going to totally suck for family travel or when I change jobs..
Yup, way too complicated. Just eliminate "mileage" earning/using and go to a % cashback bonus/points system based on spend like the credit cards - oh wait they already have cards that do that :P. MileagePlus is degenerating fast.
DL AF/KLM RDM mileage accrual question. Applies to UALS as well I believe.
Looking at an AF flight, let's say it's a 10k miles nonstop flight for easy math purposes. Ticket cost is $1500 (Class V).
It earns the following per link below:
A) 25% Base Miles
B) 25% Total Miles earned
C) 100% MQM
D) 80% Medallion Mileage Bonus (Eg.Platinum status)
Just to understand correctly, is this what would...
DL AF/KLM RDM mileage accrual question. Applies to UALS as well I believe.
Looking at an AF flight, let's say it's a 10k miles nonstop flight for easy math purposes. Ticket cost is $1500 (Class V).
It earns the following per link below:
A) 25% Base Miles
B) 25% Total Miles earned
C) 100% MQM
D) 80% Medallion Mileage Bonus (Eg.Platinum status)
Just to understand correctly, is this what would get posted to one's account:
A) 2,500 miles (cancels out B?)
B) 2,500 miles
C) 10,000 miles
D) 8,000 miles
For a total of 10,500 RDM, and 10,000 MQM.
For comparison, for a DL 006 stock, it would be 10,000 MQM + 13,500 RDM (9 x 1,500).
Is this right?
Thanks in advance.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...ir-france.html
It seems simply too complicated to encourage any loyalty to the alliance, and isn't loyalty supposed to be the point of the mileage game as far as airlines are concerned?
I just got off the phone with Mileage Plus to express my dissatisfaction with the fact that when flying on some Star Alliance partners (looking at you, Air Canada) I often receive less PQM than actual miles flown, even when flying a United codeshare flight, on United ticket stock.
A recent flight:
Vancouver --> Toronto Air Canada S class on United codeshare. Ticketed through United.
Miles Flown: 2085
Base Award Miles: 521
I just got off the phone with Mileage Plus to express my dissatisfaction with the fact that when flying on some Star Alliance partners (looking at you, Air Canada) I often receive less PQM than actual miles flown, even when flying a United codeshare flight, on United ticket stock.
A recent flight:
Vancouver --> Toronto Air Canada S class on United codeshare. Ticketed through United.
Miles Flown: 2085
Base Award Miles: 521
Base Revenue Award Miles (if flight after March 2015): 990
PQM: 521
IMO PQM should never be less than actual miles flown, regardless of partner, especially on codeshare flights on United ticket stock.
The lack of notice is unconscionable. I just sold 15 tickets in the last 2 weeks on AirNZ and made sure we were in 100% milage classes for March travel. AARGH!
All these program changes (Delta, United, BA etc.) seem to be encouraging less revenue flying and more credit card bonuses and earning through spending.
@Lucky.
The video ads seems to be back Lucky, can't say I missed them.
Starts in a frame with this address
http://www.viki.com/player/1034206v?il=en&sl=en&autostart=true&autoplay=true&volume=0
This is the video that play.
http://v.viki.io/1034206v/1034206v_high_360p_1403132003.mp4?e=1422545095&h=755b6941a57f9512ddfac67b5c51e465
@ No Name -- Thanks for the heads up, grrr! Will report it to the tech team.
"Will the change in earnings rates for travel on MileagePlus partners impact your loyalty?"
No. Nobody in their right mind is loyal to United any more.
judging from the change, does ANA seem like their closest partner now?
This stuff is getting way too confusing for me on both United and DL.
Can someone help clarify these two scenarios, assuming just "normal" economy fares?
A: DL-marketed flight operated on KLM/AF. I earn full MQMs, MQDs, but redeemable miles based on ticket cost?
B: KLM/AF-marketed and operated flight: I earn full MQMs, no MQDs, but redeemable miles based on mileage flown?