MH17 Was Shot Down Directly By Russian Armed Forces

Comrade Fonzi is correct of course. The Russian people are all very highly educated and knowledgeable in world affairs and history. It is this knowledge which helps the great Russian people to see the lies of the imperialist west. We know due to our deep knowledge of world affairs and history that of course Malaysia Air was shot down by the Americans and their NATO lackeys.

It is an undisputed fact that the great Russian people lead the world in all areas. From space where Sputnik established Russian dominance of the heavens to military might werenshe is unequaled to the quality of life for her Citizens Russia is unmatched.

Clearly the days of the bourgeois west are numbered. Soon her people will throw off their shackles and join with Comrade Putin in the glorious Russian Revolution!!!

Comrades,

Those who speak against mother Russia, the party and the people
Have made themselves our enemies. Enemies which will certainly be crushed. You should know that the Organs of State Security are eternally vigalent and unmatched in their devotion to Mother Russia and Comrade Putin.

If you are an astute observer of world affairs then you will understand that national borders serve as no protection from thier wrath. You would be well advised to renounce your treachery quickly before they visit you to express their displeasure.

Realize too that the Americans and their imperialist lackeys will not hesitate to shoot down yet another airliner if they believe they can use the incident to their advantage against mother Russia. Comrades it is high time you cast off the yoke of your imperialist masters and the decadent west and join with mother Russia and the glorious people's revolution!!!!

Lucky, I bet you never knew you ha so many Russian readers! You'd better start reviewing more Aeroflot flights.

The Russian trolls would be entertaining if their effects were not so serious. This comments section needs to be pruned on off-topic nonsense. If I want to hear Russians answer every argument by saying "yes, but look at what America does..." I will turn on RT. As though you can just hand-wave away your government shooting down an airliner because other governments do bad stuff too. I hope they pay you enough to salve your conscience.

As some of my Comrades have noted above this entire story is false. A patented attempt by the decadent imperialist west to smear the great Mother Russia and her glorious leader Comrade Putin.

Clearly the Americans have employed their lackey Dutch dogs as agents on their behalf. This cannot be disputed. In fact it is likely that this entire shootdown and sham investigation was an American imperialist plot. The Americans shot down the airliner (as they have done before) and used their NATO lackeys to accuse mother Russia of this treachery. They do this in order to foment a crisis in the hop that this would undermine Comrade Putin and cast the name of the great Russian military into disrepute. Their lies are obvious. But soon the truth will be known by all.

The American imperialist dog and his lackeys in the west that seek to undermine the glorious Russian Revolution will be seen for what they are. The world will know the victims on this plane were in fact murdered by American armed forces decripit and morally bankrupt as we all know them to be. The world will know Comrade Putin as the glorious and esteemed world leader that all Russians know him to be. Reunited with our brothers in the Ukraine the people and the party as one we will move onto to victory!!!

Soon the imperialist west with all its plots and evil will be smashed. It will of course like the Roman Empire collapse in on itself from its own decadence. Weak and divided it will be snuffed out. The steel of mother Russia will then unite the world under its glorious banner led of course by the wise and generous Comrade Putin!!!!

@Jesse yeah, I live in Russia (Moscow, SZAO, born and raised), and most of my local acquaintances think of Russia as a third-world hellhole. All of them have gotten their university education, too, and are generally smart and interesting people.
I can say that Moscow looks better than a regular third-world country (if we can even apply this term), because of the love of our government to keep up appearances (пускать пыль в глаза), but go like 40 minutes out, and all you see is trash, drunk people (most of them educated, yes) with no hope for any future and dilapidated houses.
So please, stop with your nonsense. Russia is an awful place to be and to live in right now. For foreigners like you - maybe less so (due to a low income tax and stuff).

And Jesse, you might very well be a real person. The problem is that Russians have worked so hard at muddying the waters online that there's no real way to know. Which, perhaps, is the intent.

Common sense says Russia was involved. They had motive, opportunity and there's a rather substantial amount of evidence to support their involvement. Certainly enough that a respected governmental body (Dutch investigatory body) would release a statement heavily implicating the russian government. All the huffing and puffing from folks like you doesn't change the reality.

And attack the BBC all you want. What I love is when folks like you attack the integrity of storied institution like it then turn around and link to some fly by night site that didn't exist last week.

Russia did this. History will remember that and not your attempt at online static.

Indeed Dolan, @DaKine's errors were too obvious to be anything but an employed troll.

It's funny how hard it really is to be good at emulating a native-English speaking American. Every word really does matter. The more one lives or travels abroad the better they get at picking up the nuances as to mistakes a person makes when speaking a given language. In my case, it's English. The word choices often reflect upon the language programs or ties to similiar words in a country/language, which assist in teaching English.

For example, one can easily separate the vast majority of non-native level French persons writing English from that of a German, even if their structure and other elements are largely very good. For example, a French person might use a phrase like "I propose", which a native English speaker would almost never use those two side by side. They would say "I would propose". But in French, I propose is "je propose", and thus many will simply translate it to 'I propose', missing the natural language elements. But that ignores that it'd be very rare to write 'I would prorpose' in a correspondance for a native speaker. They'd use phrases like "I'd suggest" or "How about".

In the DaKine's response, there's many linguistic errors. For example:

"unbelievable liars of the west" - No American would use these phrases, it's not a natural combination words.

"they are greedy" - Used the word 'they', when you meant 'we', since you noted you were an American citizen.

"Of course." - Also not natural language to use as a sentence by itself reconfirming yourself. You can use it in a conversation with another person as a response, but not to oneself.

"there is audio of USA diplomats" - Again, it's not natural. An American would almost never use the term 'USA' in that context. They'd say 'American', such as 'there is audio of American diplomats'.

To name a few. Of course, the cadence and flow doesn't fit a native speaker either. But that's more time than I can fix here.

Enjoy!

C'mon, Ben, did you read the original or you rely on BBC to be truthful? Here is an abstract from the official release:

"During the meeting today, the JIT presented their conclusion that the BUK TELAR with which flight MH17 was downed, originates from the 53rd Anti Aircraft Missile Brigade of the Russian army. That conclusion raises questions, such as the question to what extent the relevant Brigade itself was actively involved in the downing of flight MH17 on 17 July 2014. An important question, into which the JIT is still investigating."

Read last two sentences. Also, evidence based on social media pics? They can do better.

Ok, it's a miles and points blog after all. I am done.