I’ve gotta say, I’ve been mighty tempted to do something similar, and I admire the dedication…
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Uber customer approaches driver who stops responding
In general, I very much appreciate how rideshare apps make ground transportation easier than in the past. However, as apps like Uber and Lyft have grown over the years, they’ve also had an increasing number of bad apples, and the general level of service has definitely deteriorated.
Many years ago, I wrote about a frustrating Uber cancellation scam. The idea is that a driver accepts your ride request, but then the car doesn’t get any closer, and the driver also doesn’t respond to any calls or messages.
A vast majority of the time, it seems that this is basically done as a scam, with the driver trying to get the rider to cancel, so that they’re charged a fee. In fairness, I’m sure sometimes there’s a legitimate reason that something like this could happen, like if there’s a glitch in the app, or something along those lines. However, I think that’s the exception rather than the norm.
Anyway, I’ve always wondered what it would be like to confront one of these drivers who doesn’t move any closer to the pick-up point, and also doesn’t respond. Well, that’s exactly what someone recently did, as flagged by View from the Wing, and they even took a video of the interaction.
That video has gone viral, with nearly five million views in just a couple of days. The Uber customer claimed to have ordered an Uber, and was told the car was three minutes away. However, after 10 minutes, he noticed that the Uber still hadn’t moved, and the driver wasn’t responding to any messages.
So this guy did what anyone who really wants to prove a point would do — he drove to the Uber driver to confront him. The driver was in a parking lot, interestingly, in the back seat of the car, just chilling. The customer confronted him, saying “you got a booking that you accepted, what are you doing?”
Before the guy even had the chance to fully explain his actions, the customer said “you need to cancel it, you’re not gonna get paid off of me today.” The driver then canceled, and the man walked off.
I just wish that the customer had done a bit more listening rather than talking, as I’m curious how the driver would’ve responded if the customer just acted confused, and asked what was going on.
I still don’t fully understand the motivation here?
This Uber scam happens a lot more often than it should, but I still can’t fully wrap my head around it. Sure, the driver might earn a few bucks on a cancellation, but is that really worth it?
- It can often take 10-15 minutes before people cancel, so is that really worth it for a few bucks?
- When drivers dispute the cancellation charge due to how long they have to wait, they often get refunded; does the driver still get to keep their cut?
- Does Uber not ban drivers who are found to repeatedly face cancellations, with complaints for customers?
The only thing I can come up with is that drivers do this when they just feel like taking a break and chilling, so they still accept rides, and hope they’ll generate some amount of money in fees. Is that accurate, or how does the math on this hustle otherwise work?
Bottom line
An Uber customer decided to confront a driver who accepted a ride, but then didn’t actually start driving toward the customer, and also didn’t respond. I’ve dealt with this many times over the years, and if it were practical, I sure would’ve liked to actually reverse the script, and show up at the driver’s car. However, I don’t usually have quite that much will.
What do you make of this Uber cancellation situation?
I don't understand why Uber doesn't care about this issue. Surely the reliability of the service should be important to them? It's not a hard thing to implement - if the car doesn't start moving within X minutes of confirming the order, let the customer cancel for free. Simple.
From everyone saying this has happened to them, how many of those drivers were Uber Black vs the rest? Although way more expensive, I find Uber Black way superior and never had a problem. They are professional drivers, have commercial insurance, better cars and much higher standards.
When this happens I book a ride through another rideshare (or taxi, or public transit) and let them wait and wait and wait until they cancel on their own.
Uber needs some AI to read the messages back and forth and assess the situation. Shouldn't be tough to see what's going on here.
Uber doesn't have to and won't do anything about it anymore.
Uber has grown from being a better and cheaper alternative of cab to a miserable cab company itself.
They need more drivers to keep the prices low, they suck up to drivers more than passengers. You are the product, drivers are the customer. Wake up.
Like other too big to fail tech companies, they infiltrated our lives so much we depend on it.
Happened in LAS. Driver waiting for us to cancel so he can get more with surge pricing. He didn’t move and just sat.
Quality of Uber & Lyft drivers fall with ICE activities.
Sure a fraction of them might be criminals and rapists. But most of them are hard workers trying to earn a living rather than being lazy and rely on government printing you money so you can buy beer and video games on you 80 inch 4k tv that you can't afford to buy so you carry a balance and deal drugs to pay it off.
Happens to me all the time in Miami (and this video also happened in Miami). I've had half of those drivers message me to cancel.
It also happens to me a lot at the airport in MIA. They will show up on the opposite level (departures if I'm on arrival, or the opposite) and they will click "arrived" on the app since it looks like they have on the app GPS. Then, you have...
Happens to me all the time in Miami (and this video also happened in Miami). I've had half of those drivers message me to cancel.
It also happens to me a lot at the airport in MIA. They will show up on the opposite level (departures if I'm on arrival, or the opposite) and they will click "arrived" on the app since it looks like they have on the app GPS. Then, you have 5 minutes to get in before Uber starts charging you. The driver won't message you or anything, so you don't know where they are and you can't see them either. Then they ask you to cancel. Or they will wait forever as you keep getting charged, and then they will cancel and you still have to pay for their time. Nowadays I know about this scam so if I don't see their car and they click arrived, I will run to the other floor and catch them. Often they will be visibly mad that I caught on. I get that they barely make money nowadays, but you can't go around scamming passengers because of that.
They probably do it while taking a break, and use multiple apps at the same time (Grab + Lyft + whatever else is available locally) so they can earn maybe $20-30 in an hour, but drive normally for at least a few hours every day to not get banned.
Love this guy!
Many of us have had this happen, so good on him to fight back.
Uber needs to find the driver and ban him.
Seems like Uber could fix this issue rather easily
This happened several times to me a few years ago in Madrid. At one point the driver just kept going in the opposite direction. He messaged me something like "aren't you going to cancel?" And I wrote back: "I can wait all day ;)"
Leaving in Europe I must say I don't understand this at all. In France or in the UK, Uber or Bolt wouldn't charge you for cancelling if the driver isn't moving. And if they accidentally did, you'd easily challenge this to Uber/Bolt
Actually the place I've experienced this most is Madrid...
This is true about much of Asia too. If driver is not getting closer to the pickup radius or is not in the pickup radius, no matter how long it takes, there is no charge levied to the customer and the app will promptly give option to cancel for free or assign another driver
same in nyc; they've gotten smart and don't charge for cancels in this situation. i think this is maybe more of an issue in smaller markets?
This happens a lot in Miami area.
Good for him. This has happened to me a few times. Frustrating.
Maybe cuz I'm old, but when did we change the definition of "finesse"? /s
This has happened to me several times, usually at an airport. Uber needs to crack down on this bs.
Did you notice the race of the driver?
Apparently you did.
I hope you fall of the stairs tonight and break your back and get operated in surgery by a Latino transgender surgeon and assigned a black lesbian nurse to your ward
ben i just noticed the banhammer looks pretty hungry
Yet another reason why Waymo >>> Uber & Lyft.
Once they can go to SFO, I’m entirely done with human driven rides at home.
Wrong login Eskimo.
An idiot who think I post with more than one name.
It's a made up name on the internet. If someone using multiple made up name in a blog, you seriously need help.
Take Waymo to BART, then BART to SFO. BART still has a driver but you don’t have to interact with them unless you want to say thanks at SFO.
Sure, and add a variable 30+ minutes and $8 to your journey
You can, but unless there’s really heavy traffic on 101 only, and not in the City, it takes substantially longer.
Uber needs all the drivers it can get. It doesn't care if they're low quality.
To them supply creates demand and footprint, no matter how low quality of a service they offer.