Plane That Crashed In Brazil Had Recent Accident, Was Grounded

Plane That Crashed In Brazil Had Recent Accident, Was Grounded

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Last Friday, a Voepass ATR-72 had a tragic accident in Brazil, killing all onboard. There’s video footage of the accident, and it has to be one of the most unsettling plane crashes ever captured on camera, as the aircraft entered a corkscrew-style spiral, which the crew wasn’t able to recover from.

It’s too early to know what the cause of the accident was. We know that there was severe icing at the altitude the aircraft was flying at when the accident happened, though of course that doesn’t explain what caused this.

There is now an interesting revelation regarding the condition of the aircraft prior to the accident, which wasn’t initially discussed…

This aircraft was recently out of service for months

The aircraft involved in this accident was a 14-year-old ATR-72 with the registration code PS-VPB. Interestingly this exact aircraft was recently out of service for several months, as flagged by The Aviation Herald.

On March 11, 2024, this plane was operating a domestic flight in Brazil, from Recife (REC) to Salvador (SSA), with flight number 2Z2290. While enroute, the crew received a warning indicating a low hydraulic oil level. The crew worked through checklists, and made the decision to continue to the destination.

However, when the aircraft landed in Salvador, it suffered a tail strike. This wasn’t just a minor incident, as the plane ended up being grounded and not operating any passenger flights for months:

  • The aircraft remained on the ground in Salvador for well over two weeks, until March 28, 2024, when it was ferried to Ribeirao Preto (RAO), where Voepass’ maintenance facilities are located
  • The plane remained in the maintenance facility all the way through July 9, at which point the plane reentered service
  • When the plane returned to service on July 9, it lost cabin pressure, and the aircraft was then taken out of service for an additional four days
  • It finally started operating regularly scheduled flights as of July 13, all the way until the fatal accident happened, on August 9

At the time, Brazil’s CENIPA (which investigates aircraft incidents) categorized the March 11 situation as a minor incident, and no detailed investigation was ever performed. As the agency stated:

“The aircraft took off from Guararapes Airport – Gilberto Freyre (SBRF), Recife, PE, bound for Deputado Luis Eduardo Magalhães Airport (SBSV), Salvador, BA, in order to perform regular public air transportation. During the cruise phase, the aircraft displayed a low hydraulic oil level message. The procedures provided for in the manual were performed and the flight continued to the destination aerodrome. During landing, the aircraft made abnormal contact with the runway. After taxiing, the aircraft was handed over to the maintenance team.”

Some media in Brazil claim to have seen the Voepass maintenance logs for this aircraft, reflecting that there was serious structural damage. That would explain why the plane was grounded for so long.

Lastly, while you can make of this what you’d like, many passengers flying on this particular aircraft in recent days and weeks reported that the air conditioning system wasn’t working correctly and it was incredibly hot onboard, unlike on other aircraft in the fleet.

What should we make of this revelation?

Let me stress that we should let accident investigators conduct an investigation into what happened before drawing any conclusions. That being said, this is certainly a major detail that will be looked into very closely.

The timing here is certainly strange. The plane was grounded for four months, then it reentered service but had further issues, then it was grounded for another four days, and then it finally consistently reentered service. Less than a month later, the plane had a horrific crash.

It remains to be seen if or how these factors played into what happened, but I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough. This could just be a coincidence, but it seems to be the most significant lead so far.

Bottom line

A Voepass ATR-72 had a tragic accident in Brazil on Friday, which is one of the most shocking airplane accidents we’ve seen in a long time. While we don’t yet know what happened, it has now been revealed that the plane was recently grounded for around four months, following a tail strike, where the plane sustained structural damage.

We don’t yet know if or how this factored into the accident, but I imagine these details will be scrutinized closely.

What do you make of these latest details about the Voepass ATR-72 accident?

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  1. william Guest

    Could have lost hydraulic pressure once again causing the crew to override the auto pilot and ultimately losing flight controls causing it to go in to a flat spin. You can hear the engines in the video. They are operating. so.. in summation.. my guess flight control issue.

  2. Emmanuel Savage Guest

    While the investigator's are the best qualified to find out what happened, it seems here that it could (or not) be that the deicing system may have been effected by the aircraft's electrical problems if not a long systemic problem with the ATR in icy conditions....

  3. Ioan Sabau Guest

    They do no seem to be related.
    Accident investigators check all the maintenance records and identify if there was a potential link. It takes a lot of time to have the final report.

  4. skedguy Guest

    My gut reaction is these airplanes have killed more people than the 737MAX but where's the outcry and justice for passengers? On the contrary the then head of ATR denigrated the pilots' skills of the crew in the first ATR 42 crash by claiming "monkeys could have flown the airplane properly" Class act that!
    Do go back and research how many previous ATR crashes were caused by icing including the very first of the...

    My gut reaction is these airplanes have killed more people than the 737MAX but where's the outcry and justice for passengers? On the contrary the then head of ATR denigrated the pilots' skills of the crew in the first ATR 42 crash by claiming "monkeys could have flown the airplane properly" Class act that!
    Do go back and research how many previous ATR crashes were caused by icing including the very first of the type that crashed in Italy and the American Eagle crash into a beanfield in Iowa.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Eagle_Flight_4184

    I will not fly this airplane family unless the alternative is a donkey cart and thats 50 50 at best.

  5. Denny Afan/A&P Guest

    We are aware that this aircrafts is designed to have an anti ice/deice systems but is the System working?

  6. W Horne Guest

    Loss of hydraulic fluid and pressure could affect the control and the stability of the aircraft such as rudder, ailerons, flaps, etc.

  7. Regis Guest

    Like all the unfortunate passengers and crew aboard the ill-fated flight, Voepass will not survive this crash.

  8. Bill Narine Guest

    Interesting that the airspeed went so critically low regardless of icing or other mechanical issues that the pilot didn’t lower the nose to increase the airspeed
    Could it be that the elevator controls or as a matter of fact all flight controls were not operational at that moment due to previous hydraulic issues that probably resurfaced

    1. AERO Guest

      ATR aircrafts are NOT using hydraulic power (expept spoilers/flaps-secondary flight control-) for primary control surfaced. ELEVATOR AILERON AND RUDDER ARE MECHANICALS.

  9. William Ellis Guest

    I am waiting for the black boxes to be deciphered then go by that.

  10. Joe Guest

    I'm convinced that severe icing in the area is a more "significant lead" than a previous tail strike.

    If I were a betting man, I'd say the tail strike is coincidental.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Joe -- It's possible that the severe icing and the previous incident both played into this. Severe icing in and of itself shouldn't bring down a plane, unless there's some other issue with the aircraft. After all, lots of planes were flying in the area.

    2. Donato Guest

      I have no expertise but I am pretty sure icing can cause a loss or diminished lift. Lift is what keeps the aircraft in the sky.

    3. Legend717 Guest

      @Ben, respectfully, "Severe" icing is defined by the regulatory agencies as that which is beyond the capability of the airframe to cope with.
      So, in fact, yes, Severe icing could absolutely bring down the aircraft... particularly when you consider it's an aircraft that is perhaps more prone to icing than competitors (Fokker 50, Dash 8 come to mind), and that the crew did indeed request to descend (which was refused), perhaps to find warmer...

      @Ben, respectfully, "Severe" icing is defined by the regulatory agencies as that which is beyond the capability of the airframe to cope with.
      So, in fact, yes, Severe icing could absolutely bring down the aircraft... particularly when you consider it's an aircraft that is perhaps more prone to icing than competitors (Fokker 50, Dash 8 come to mind), and that the crew did indeed request to descend (which was refused), perhaps to find warmer air.

      While I'm not saying that you shouldn't report this prior history, I'd personally (and I say this as someone in airline maintenance management) be surprised if it proved to be a causal factor in this tragedy.
      Time will tell, of course.

  11. Tim Dunn Diamond

    a flat spin induced by icing is still the most likely scenario but the previous accident could have damaged de-icing equipment on the aircraft or it might not have been properly repaired after the accident.

    This airline did restructure under Brazil's version of chapter 11 bankruptcy IIRC.

    1. BradStPete Diamond

      The ATR has an unfortunate history of several crashes due to icing. I recall people far more educated than I blaming the high wing... I have flown on the aircraft only once and though it comfortable for the 1 hour I spent on board. Nice looking aircraft. I do wonder if ice will be the cause.

    2. Michael Guest

      Some wing designs are just notorious for being easily degraded by contamination or damage. High vs low wing designs have nothing to do with it. It's the actual design of the airfoil.

      The three planes that stick out in my mind are the B-24 bomber (hence they were shot down at a higher rate than the B-17, which could often crawl back home heavily damaged), the Fokker F28/F100, and the ATR series.

    3. Tim Dunn Guest

      Delta has never had a crash!

    4. AJO Gold

      American Eagle 4184 was an icing-related ATR crash. Wikipedia also directed me to another ATR icing accident, Aero Caribbean 883. Let's wait and see what investigators will find.

    5. Lime Guest

      To be clear, you can't get a flat spin from icing. You can get a stall from icing, but for a flat spin you need to induce a yawing motion during the stall.

      There's no doubt they were in a flat spin, it's clear as day in the video. How they got there remains a question. Icing likely caused a stall, but it's either going to be crew or mechanical failure that killed these people.

      ...

      To be clear, you can't get a flat spin from icing. You can get a stall from icing, but for a flat spin you need to induce a yawing motion during the stall.

      There's no doubt they were in a flat spin, it's clear as day in the video. How they got there remains a question. Icing likely caused a stall, but it's either going to be crew or mechanical failure that killed these people.

      ATRs have a stick shaker and anti-stall pull down. Basically if the airspeed gets too low and a stall is about to happen the yoke will violently shake to inform the pilot. If the pilot doesn't respond and the plane is even closer to stalling the yoke will slam all the way forward automatically. It's strong enough to pull the yoke straight out of the pilot's hands. This will put the plane into a dive to recover airspeed and prevent the stall.

      However, from flight tracking data, this plane flat spun for nearly 17k feet. No doubt icing fouled the wing and made it likely to stall, but someone or something happened to prevent any avoidance of that stall, and furthermore yaw the aircraft to induce the flat spin. Once it was spinning the aircraft was doomed. There's no feasible recovery in a large twin-engine aircraft like this.

      Black boxes will likely reveal a failed stall avoidance system, inoperable airspeed instruments (blocked pito), pilot error in responding to a stall, or all of the above.

      Everyone is pointing to AE 4184, but it's worth noting that, as one would expect in the case of a stall, that aircraft entered a nose down dive. They didn't have enough lift to pull out of that dive due to the ice, but they were still in a stall recovery dive. How this plane got into a flat spin remains a mystery.

  12. FOG Guest

    Also adding that the media in Brazil are sharing stories from former employees from not so long ago about the maintenance team using a toothpick to make a connection/fix one equipment or some not so nice nicknames about some planes from the company. Things are not looking very good for Voepass.

  13. Sean M. Diamond

    Not specifically related to this accident, but minor repairs can sometimes take a lot longer than expected to fix depending on the availability of parts and/or specialised approvals. So the duration of an AOG isn't always indicative of its severity. You can sit for weeks waiting for a regulator or OME to give approval for something that then takes 30 seconds to actually fix.

    1. NedsKid Diamond

      Or if they don't particularly need the plane, shifting expenses to a different period (been there before.....).

  14. Michael Guest

    Is "uh-oh" really an appropriate phrase to use when 70 people lost their lives in this accident?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Michael -- Totally fair, you're right. I'm sorry, that didn't come across the way I intended (it sounded different in my head), and I updated the post to remove it.

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Sean M. Diamond

Not specifically related to this accident, but minor repairs can sometimes take a lot longer than expected to fix depending on the availability of parts and/or specialised approvals. So the duration of an AOG isn't always indicative of its severity. You can sit for weeks waiting for a regulator or OME to give approval for something that then takes 30 seconds to actually fix.

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Ben Schlappig OMAAT

@ Joe -- It's possible that the severe icing and the previous incident both played into this. Severe icing in and of itself shouldn't bring down a plane, unless there's some other issue with the aircraft. After all, lots of planes were flying in the area.

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NedsKid Diamond

Or if they don't particularly need the plane, shifting expenses to a different period (been there before.....).

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