Philippine Airlines Orders Boeing 787-10, As Part Of Major Fleet Renewal

Philippine Airlines Orders Boeing 787-10, As Part Of Major Fleet Renewal

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Philippine Airlines has just announced a new aircraft order with Boeing, and it’s a plane that seems like a great fit for the carrier.

Philippine Airlines orders up to 20 Boeing 787 Dreamliners

Philippine Airlines has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Boeing for the acquisition of up to 20 787-10 aircraft, with the order expected to include 15 firm orders and five options. The catch is that we’ll have to be patient, as the expectation is that the planes will be delivered between 2031 and 2034, best case scenario. So don’t expect to see one of these planes flying until around five years from now.

For context, the 787-10 is the largest variant of the Dreamliner. While it has the least range of any 787 variant, the per-seat economics are great, given how it’s “stretched.” Philippine Airlines intends to use the plane for both medium and long haul flights.

The agreement was announced at the start of the Farnborough International Airshow. This marks the carrier’s first Boeing aircraft order since 2007, as the airline has increasingly switched to Airbus for both narrow body and wide body aircraft. So that’s a pretty big win for Boeing, after nearly two decades.

Here’s how Lucio C. Tan III, CEO of PAL Holdings, describes this development:

“This investment manifests our confidence in the future of Philippine Airlines and the continued growth of air travel. The Boeing 787-10 will strengthen our medium and long-haul fleet, allowing us to provide an even better travel experience for our customers while improving operational efficiency and supporting our long-term sustainability goals. As Asia’s first and longest serving airline, we proudly celebrated our 85th anniversary earlier this year. An equally meaningful milestone that we celebrate this year is 80 years of partnership between Philippine Airlines and Boeing.”

Philippine Airlines is ordering up to 20 Boeing 787s

The Boeing 787-10 seems like a great fit for Philippine Airlines

For context, Philippine Airlines’ fleet currently consists of 51 aircraft, including 26 Airbus A321s (18 A321ceos, eight A321neos), 11 Airbus A330-300s, four Airbus A350s (two A350-900s, two A350-1000s), and 10 Boeing 777-300ERs. On top of that, the airline otherwise has 13 A321neos and seven A350-1000s on order.

Philippine Airlines has been through quite a few “phases” in terms of growing vs. shrinking. The airline now once again seems to be in growth mode, trying to improve its passenger experience, and become more of a global carrier. Keep in mind that it’s also joining the oneworld alliance, which is supposed to help with that.

The Boeing 787-10 seems like the obvious choice for the airline. For one, the Philippines is a very high volume market, and the attractive per-seat operating costs will come in handy. Furthermore, we’ve seen impressive improvements to the 787-10’s range, to the point that the plane could now fly from Manila (MNL) to some of the carrier’s North America destinations, including Seattle (SEA) and Vancouver (YVR).

I am curious to what extent these planes will be used for growth rather than fleet renewal. For example, the carrier’s A330s and 777s are an average of around 12 years old. So while those planes aren’t necessarily close to retiring, one imagines that some long term plans will have to be made there. Could we see either or both fleet types replaced by the 787s?

Philippine Airlines is also acquiring Airbus A350-1000s

Bottom line

Philippine Airlines intends to modernize its fleet significantly, as the airline is ordering up to 20 Boeing 787-10s, including a firm order for 15 jets, plus five options. This is just an MoU for now, and planes are expected to be delivered between 2031 and 2034.

This is a logical fit for Philippine Airlines’ fleet, given the plane’s great per-seat economics. My question now is just how much growth the airline is planning, and whether these planes will replace the A330s and/or 777s.

What do you make of Philippine Airlines’ Dreamliner order?

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  1. LOVETRAVELLING Member

    I am okay with PA as long as they do not serve Danggit, Dang or any other Dried Fish. I am Okay with it. These Dried Fish stink the whole place.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

  2. BjornFree Guest

    Coby ExPlanes did a video about how now one was buying the -10. Seems like a lot of airlines are buying the -10, Delta, Alaska, United.

  3. TravelinWilly Diamond

    It would be nice if PR reintroduced a first class product. They were amongst the best back in the day.

  4. Alert Guest

    I don't see any airports on those islands shown in the main photo .

    1. TravelinWilly Diamond

      Have you ever travelled anywhere at all?

      What islands do you think those are, specifically, in the picture? Like, what are the names of the islands you're seeing?

      You don't see any airports on those islands for the same reason that you don't see airports on limestone outcroppings in Phang Nga Bay or on the Phi Phi islands in Thailand either.

  5. 1990 Guest

    2031 is a long way away. I think this says a lot more about Boeing than Philippines Airlines. Still, this "Memorandum of Understanding" between the aircraft manufacturer and airline is probably more legit than any other MoUs in the news lately... *cough*

    1. Alert Guest

      Actually , 2031 is five years away .

  6. Mike O. Guest

    "I am curious to what extent these planes will be used for growth rather than fleet renewal. For example, the carrier’s A330s and 777s are an average of around 12 years old. So while those planes aren’t necessarily close to retiring, one imagines that some long term plans will have to be made there. Could we see either or both fleet types replaced by the 787s?"

    Both the A333s and 77Ws are planned to be...

    "I am curious to what extent these planes will be used for growth rather than fleet renewal. For example, the carrier’s A330s and 777s are an average of around 12 years old. So while those planes aren’t necessarily close to retiring, one imagines that some long term plans will have to be made there. Could we see either or both fleet types replaced by the 787s?"

    Both the A333s and 77Ws are planned to be refurbished just like what CX is doing now, so they have a decade+ of life in them, but it will eventually be both. A fleet of A350s and 787s. Simple and keeps the Europeans and Yanks happy! :D

  7. Mike O. Guest

    As I've indicated time and time again, the partnership between the two and GE will never waver for business and geopolitical reasons. They just can't rely on a single OEM alone.

    It'll also be an easier transition from the 777 to the 787 for pilots rather than transitioning to an all-new type with a completely different philosophy.

    The 787s are a flexible family compared to the A330neo and the A350 is just overkill; they can...

    As I've indicated time and time again, the partnership between the two and GE will never waver for business and geopolitical reasons. They just can't rely on a single OEM alone.

    It'll also be an easier transition from the 777 to the 787 for pilots rather than transitioning to an all-new type with a completely different philosophy.

    The 787s are a flexible family compared to the A330neo and the A350 is just overkill; they can order some 789s down the road if needed be.

    And while no engine announcement has been made, I'm willing to bet it'll be GE. They'll need to squeeze the range out of their 78Xs especially since they send their A330s to LAX when their 77Ws under go maintenance.

    1. Tim Dunn Diamond

      you are right that the Philippines and the US have a strong relationship and that flows down to the commercial aircraft and engine market.

      however, PR does have a growing fleet of A350 aircraft and GE is also the dominant engine provider on the 787 while RR is trying to rebuild its reputation which got justifiably damaged on the 787.

      Every airline that can fill seats will choose the 787-10 over the 330NEO or even...

      you are right that the Philippines and the US have a strong relationship and that flows down to the commercial aircraft and engine market.

      however, PR does have a growing fleet of A350 aircraft and GE is also the dominant engine provider on the 787 while RR is trying to rebuild its reputation which got justifiably damaged on the 787.

      Every airline that can fill seats will choose the 787-10 over the 330NEO or even the A350 for medium range flights while the A350 is superior to any other jet for long and ultra longhaul routes.

      PR, like alot of other airlines, is pursuing a mixed Airbus and Boeing widebody fleet for good product reasons; politics and larger country relationships are quite secondary.

  8. Barbarella Guest

    Looking forward to the first ever 10-abreast 787...

    1. 1990 Guest

      Cebu Pacific: "Hold my adobo..."

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TravelinWilly Diamond

Have you ever travelled anywhere at all? What islands do you think those are, specifically, in the picture? Like, what are the names of the islands you're seeing? You don't see any airports on those islands for the same reason that you don't see airports on limestone outcroppings in Phang Nga Bay or on the Phi Phi islands in Thailand either.

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TravelinWilly Diamond

It would be nice if PR reintroduced a first class product. They were amongst the best back in the day.

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Tim Dunn Diamond

you are right that the Philippines and the US have a strong relationship and that flows down to the commercial aircraft and engine market. however, PR does have a growing fleet of A350 aircraft and GE is also the dominant engine provider on the 787 while RR is trying to rebuild its reputation which got justifiably damaged on the 787. Every airline that can fill seats will choose the 787-10 over the 330NEO or even the A350 for medium range flights while the A350 is superior to any other jet for long and ultra longhaul routes. PR, like alot of other airlines, is pursuing a mixed Airbus and Boeing widebody fleet for good product reasons; politics and larger country relationships are quite secondary.

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