With Alaska Air Group having acquired Hawaiian Airlines, we’re seeing the company take an updated approach to how it uses the Hawaiian fleet. Along those lines, plans have just been announced to suspend three “underperforming” legacy Hawaiian routes.
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Hawaiian Airlines shifts Honolulu route network
As of mid-November 2025, Hawaiian Airlines plans to cut three routes out of Honolulu (HNL), including the 4x weekly flights to Boston (BOS), 3x weekly flights to Fukuoka (FUK), and 5x weekly flights to Seoul Incheon (ICN). These are all routes operated by the Airbus A330-200.
The company emphasizes that travelers can continue to reach all three destinations with connections, and passengers confirmed on flights that are canceled can be rebooked on other flights, or receive a refund.
As it’s described, these routes are being cut in order to redeploy capacity in higher demand (and presumably more profitable) markets. Out of Honolulu (HNL), we’re going to be seeing a fifth daily flight to Los Angeles (LAX), a fourth daily flight to Seattle (SEA), an additional 1x weekly frequency to Papeete (PPT), and an additional 2x weekly frequencies to Sydney (SYD).
Here’s how Hawaiian Airlines CEO Joe Sprague describes this:
“It’s always a difficult decision to suspend a route, especially in cities like Seoul, which we have enjoyed serving for over 14 years. However, despite our team’s best efforts, soft post-pandemic travel demand from Asia combined with various market challenges have persisted in Seoul, as well as in Fukuoka and Boston, both of which we entered in 2019. We remain committed to continuing to provide robust Hawaiian Airlines service between Asia and Hawai‘i through our nonstop Japan flights, and via one-stop connections to and from Incheon and beyond with our global partner airlines. These adjustments will ensure we are meeting strong demand for travel to Hawaiʻi – both internationally and domestically – while providing all our guests access to more destinations.”
My take on Hawaiian Airlines’ unsexy network updates
With these changes, Hawaiian Airlines is essentially taking two dots — Boston and Fukuoka — off the map, and both of these are routes that were launched in 2019. Meanwhile Seoul Incheon service is being shifted to Seattle (SEA), where the airline is setting up a long haul hub.
We’re primarily seeing these services replaced with fourth and fifth daily flights to existing destinations, which also feed into Alaska’s network. Each of these cuts makes sense:
- Fukuoka (and Japan more broadly) to Hawaii has become an extremely challenging market post-pandemic, due to the decrease in Japanese travelers (largely due to the weak JPY)
- Seoul Incheon to Hawaii is a very competitive market, with service from Asiana, Korean Air, and Air Premia, all of which have stronger name recognition in South Korea
- Boston to Honolulu was the longest flight in the United States, and the economics of that are just really challenging; Delta also operated this flight for one season, but cut it
The reality is that Hawaiian lost money for years prior to being acquired by Alaska, due to the challenging operating environment. Alaska Air Group’s goal has been to make the carrier’s operations profitable in record time, and I think these changes are the perfect example of working toward that.
Sure, simply adding even more flights to Los Angeles and Seattle might not excite us, but it pays the bills better than an 11+ hour Boston to Honolulu flight with $299 fares.
Bottom line
Hawaiian Airlines is continuing to update its route network, and is cutting flights from Honolulu to Boston, Fukuoka, and Seoul Incheon, all of which have reportedly been unprofitable for some time.
Now that the company is part of Alaska Air Group, capacity can be deployed a bit more strategically, giving the additional mainland flying options. The biggest change we’ll see is additional flying from Honolulu to both Los Angeles and Seattle. While not objectively very exciting, that’s where there’s more money to be made, so you can’t blame the company…
What do you make of Hawaiian Airlines’ network updates?
I grew up flying between CA and HNL at least once a year as a kid since we had family there. When we would go to HNL for an early afternoon flight back home, the airport could be mistaken for an airport somewhere in Japan with all the ANA/JAL 747s.
I went back last year and it felt weird to see Southwest 737s there and only a JAL 787 or two.
I don't get the augida.
Airlines always redeploy aircraft to more profitable or opportunistic routes, and related aircraft utilization. What's the drama?
What's FINALLY in discussion is HA's overseas network from HNL. That's been missing from all of the AS/HA posts.
because AS said repeatedly that it would preserve HA's network. To think they didn't know how badly performing these routes were is beyond naive.
"because AS said repeatedly that it would preserve HA's network."
That was in reference to inter-island. They never at any time said they wouldn't cut long-hauls.
they most certainly did. that is precisely what the State of Hawaii wanted preserved.
Post your link, tim
Where did AS promise international would never change out of HNL
you can look at Hawaiian's press release on the day of the merger - part of which I posted below - and their press release just today.
They cancelled 8X weekly service to FUK and ICN and add 2X weekly additional service to SYD and 1X to PPT.
trying to convince someone that 3 is equal to 8 is the epitome of not being able to tell the truth.
HA knew full well that most...
you can look at Hawaiian's press release on the day of the merger - part of which I posted below - and their press release just today.
They cancelled 8X weekly service to FUK and ICN and add 2X weekly additional service to SYD and 1X to PPT.
trying to convince someone that 3 is equal to 8 is the epitome of not being able to tell the truth.
HA knew full well that most of its international routes were unprofitable and they and AS made all kinds of promises to Hawaiian officials INCLUDING ABOUT international destinations.
and they are ripping apart HA's international network. They aren't adding any new destinations. They aren't even replacing as many international flights as they are cutting.
It's crazy how wrong everyone in this comments section is.
BOS to HNL is not "always full". It had 75% loads in the past three months from February to April on HA.
As a BOS based flyer this is horrible. Had flown both JFK-HNL several times with the convenient B6 connection BOS to JFK and was super excited to fly F BOS-HNL just before Covid. Had a return trip on my mind but I guess l’ll just have to go to NY. As mentioned-the load factors on those flights previously had been very high in the 90%+ range from what I heard.
Where did you hear that from? The HA loads from the most recent month with publicly available data in April were 75%, don't make up lies.
Since AS has decided to run the 2 airlines separately, it means an entire crew base has to be qualified for HA A330 and & 787 fleet. Imagine being an HA pilot that was flying the 787 BOS flight only to be told - NOPE not anymore. That’s going to a 737 SEA based captain. I get it AS bought HA - it wasn’t a merger and they can move the assets around. It just...
Since AS has decided to run the 2 airlines separately, it means an entire crew base has to be qualified for HA A330 and & 787 fleet. Imagine being an HA pilot that was flying the 787 BOS flight only to be told - NOPE not anymore. That’s going to a 737 SEA based captain. I get it AS bought HA - it wasn’t a merger and they can move the assets around. It just sucks for the HA Crews.
I wonder… has AS started training their crews? Betcha those lucky crew will be HAH getting the Intl WB pilot pay.
Eventually there will be one team of Pilots and one team of FA once the Single Operating Certificate (both HA and AS procedures and manuals are approved creating just one set) is obtained which sometimes this fall and the Union/seniority agree btwn them that might take some time. When those are completed any pilot/FA can bid flights/trip that avail for their turn to bid!
FUK might have been a good award flight and destination. Terrible that the airline can't compete against competitors in ICN.
BOS is no big loss
Says you! I have flown BOS to HNL 6 times since 2019/2020. Always full and maybe once at 90%+. This stinks. Things are changing faster than I expected.
See, this is how politicians act. They do something and do not realize the impact on you. I was just commenting. A politician would do the same except pass a city ordinance or a state or federal law and not realize that you can be hurt. They don't care. They just do whatever they want. It's worse in Canada where they have a limited dictatorship there.
I was on a Hawaii kick a few years ago, and I visited a few times, direct flights from the East Coast. IMO - the flight times from the east coast to Hawaii are pretty great. Leave in the morning, arrive in the afternoon. You basically still get a full evening/night in Hawaii after you land. On the way back, a long redeye where you can rest. Hawaii is a cool, unique destination - there...
I was on a Hawaii kick a few years ago, and I visited a few times, direct flights from the East Coast. IMO - the flight times from the east coast to Hawaii are pretty great. Leave in the morning, arrive in the afternoon. You basically still get a full evening/night in Hawaii after you land. On the way back, a long redeye where you can rest. Hawaii is a cool, unique destination - there *should* be more demand from the east coast to Hawaii that doesn't have to connect in California.
Maybe BOS-HNL was a bridge too far. But I would like to see an airline attempt East Coast to OGG again once demand to OGG normalizes (it still seems to be down from the wildfires). Right now, we have United flying from Chicago and Delta flying from Atlanta. I think United used to run EWR-OGG. Maybe Hawaiian Airlines could try it - but I feel like Alaska has other priorities over growing Hawaii traffic. I would love to see Delta fly JFK to OGG (even on the 763 that people love to disparage here).
In terms of the Japan thing, it is a big structural shift. HNL depends on robust Japanese tourism. If the Yen decline has created permanently lower traffic to HNL, that's a problem for hotels on the island.
Florida and cancun suck up all the east coast demand
Delta and Korean Air's joint venture will likely dominate the Honolulu - Seoul route. Add in Asiana soon, and no one can compete.
When I worked at Hawaiian they were doing well and adding secondary routes in APAC like TPE and CTS.
Granted that the TPE foray was more about aircraft maintenance, it still showed that HA was willing to grow its footprint.
I will be interesting to see if JFK stays especially with plenty of Alaska and Oneworld connections available.
JFK will stay. It's the premium O&D route. BOS is much smaller than NYC.
Delta flies it, UA runs EWR-HNL.
UA EWRHNL flight was seasonal and it hasn’t operated this past year.
Probably sacrificed to beef up Denver and ORD. United has so much capacity to Hawaii, there are lots of options. Did they ever bring D.C. back to seasonal?
What're you talking about? EWR-HNL is on sale again in November.
The comments section of this blog are filled with so many counterfactual statements these days.
Bos-Hnl is almost always full this is just another example of alaska air making hawaii a connection destination rather than providing direct routes for the residents and tourists hawaiian airlines was previously serving. More to come im sure.
“Is always full” has little to do with profitability. If airlines made every flight $10 they’d never have an empty seat, right?
BOS-HNL is a long flight and the longer a flight the more expensive it is to operate
It's always full
But for a flight with a longer stage length compared to JFK, its average yield per passenger is 10-15% lower
This is all the beginning of the end for Hawaiian, it's network, and its brand. What will emerge is a much smaller subsidiary, with a focus back to its core routes (West Coast to Hawaii that compliments AS service, with fewer wide bodies but for the largest markets), some Hawaii-Mainland flights further afield, with the bulk of Honolulu long haul intercontinental shifting to Seattle. The Hawaiian brand will be much more niche in the future.
as I have said would happen, AS would start to cut HA"s core network which AS said they would preserve as part of the agreement with the state of Hawaii.
HA was a money-losing airline and the notion that shifting a Narita flight from HNL to SEA wasn't going to fix the problem.
Japan has been a huge drag on Hawaii tourism since before covid because of the strong dollar. Japan has become much...
as I have said would happen, AS would start to cut HA"s core network which AS said they would preserve as part of the agreement with the state of Hawaii.
HA was a money-losing airline and the notion that shifting a Narita flight from HNL to SEA wasn't going to fix the problem.
Japan has been a huge drag on Hawaii tourism since before covid because of the strong dollar. Japan has become much more of a US point of sale market for all carriers.
BOS-HNL didn't make money for AS or DL; DL blinked first and AS' presence in BOS is now even smaller.
good for AS in making the right calls to get rid of HA's money-losing routes.
Now they face the big task of taking on a whole lot more established carriers on international routes from SEA.
Flew TPE-SEA last week on DL. Flight had 50 passengers. DL crew mentioning repeatedly how much the airline doesn't make money in SEA and some routes could be cut.
first, neither DL's or no other airline's employees outside of a relatively few headquarters employees know how much an airline makes on any route or hub.
second, DL isn't cutting SEA-TPE which simply says they have the pockets to sustain even weak routes.
and third, as much as anyone wants to think otherwise, AS has a pretty long history of cutting routes post mergers - they exited huge portions of Virgin America's network and...
first, neither DL's or no other airline's employees outside of a relatively few headquarters employees know how much an airline makes on any route or hub.
second, DL isn't cutting SEA-TPE which simply says they have the pockets to sustain even weak routes.
and third, as much as anyone wants to think otherwise, AS has a pretty long history of cutting routes post mergers - they exited huge portions of Virgin America's network and then have cycled through a bunch of routes even that AS has started and exited.
as much as you or want to throw rocks, it was a given that AS would cut much more extensively to HA's network and that is now happening.
In Apr I redeemed a round trip on Delta Sea-Tpe-sea for 29,500 delta miles for coming-up Sept trip, and my friend also got his tix at 29,500. Such a great deal!
"Flew TPE-SEA last week on DL. Flight had 50 passengers. DL crew mentioning repeatedly how much the airline doesn't make money in SEA and some routes could be cut."
None of that is true.
There wasn't a single such segment that went out with "50 passengers" last week, and flight crew are not privy to non-public actual financials.
Oh wise one. How on earth did you ever predict that Alaska would redirect HA assets to more profitable flying off Alaska’s superior hub structure?
How are you so wise…? Lol
I have said so in multiple places over quite a period of time, including as part of the discussions about AS on CF.
And I didn't call AS' hub structure superior, max. They have a strong hub. A - as in one - strong hub. which is also a detriment given the airport is landlocked and someone else is laying claim to part of the space at that hub.
oh, and I have repeatedly...
I have said so in multiple places over quite a period of time, including as part of the discussions about AS on CF.
And I didn't call AS' hub structure superior, max. They have a strong hub. A - as in one - strong hub. which is also a detriment given the airport is landlocked and someone else is laying claim to part of the space at that hub.
oh, and I have repeatedly noted that AS cut a large part of Virgin America's network every time someone talks about how great AS' international expansion would be. AS is doing the same thing as they did with Virgin America.
Hawaii asked for assurances that AS would keep HA's Hawaii network intact, AS gave those assurances and AS is now backtracking. It certainly wasn't a legal agreement but the notion that AS was going to go from a bunch of low-performing strength markets from HNL to a strong international hub at SEA, an airport that is highly competitive was, still is, and will be more than a stretch
It isn't a surprise that, in your fixation with me, you missed the bottom line in all of the AS rah-rah dance.
the way you waste your day replying and dreaming about Delta...
You don't even comprehend what I write and go off on tangents...
Yes, Tim. Alaska does have a superior hub network to HA.
There's nothing smart about predicting AS would redirect widebody assets. It was kind of obvious. Alaska never promised to protect Hawaiian's international route network.
your hypocrisy has no match, max.
talking about me replying while you sat breathlessly waiting for me to reply so you could is the height of hypocrisy.
whether it was obvious or not, nobody and esp. not you, said that AS would redirect a large number of HA's assets. In fact, people were quite content to say that AS had done what needed to be done when HNL-NRT was redirected to SEA even as I...
your hypocrisy has no match, max.
talking about me replying while you sat breathlessly waiting for me to reply so you could is the height of hypocrisy.
whether it was obvious or not, nobody and esp. not you, said that AS would redirect a large number of HA's assets. In fact, people were quite content to say that AS had done what needed to be done when HNL-NRT was redirected to SEA even as I said that wouldn't fix the problem.
Your real problem is that you can't stand that someone else understands and speaks to the airline industry while you just sit in the bushes attacking me.
Of course SEA is a superior hub to HA. but that's not what you said the first time.
and SEA is only a SINGLE superior hub.
none of which changes that AS made promises - unwritten I am sure - about keeping HA's resources in Hawaii and they are now backtracking on that promise.
21 paragraphs on this article alone this morning, Tim.
Keep it up, loser. You're only proving my point.
And no, you were certainly not the only one predicting AS would redirect HA widebodies. lol. There were entire articles and podcasts on the topic. Stop being such an obvious and stupid loser.
the topic is AS' cuts to HA's network, Max, not your fixation with me.
the fact that you wake up EVERY. SINGLE. MORNING. looking for an opportunity to crAAp on whatever I have to see IS the problem.
which makes you, not me, the loser.
and feel free to link to one of those podcasts that talked about specific cuts that entail 4 widebodies worth of HNL flying, Max.
lol. you're funny and you really do have the lamest comebacks. Try harder.
Not everything is about you nor are my posts every morning but it's nice to know you wake up dreaming about me and what I may write about you that day. ;) Get a life.
25 paragraphs now.
no, I don't dream about you. But I do cringe every time I see you reply to something I write because it simply confirms that you are only interested in doing whatever you can to try to trash me rather than tracking w/ the conversation.
Today's article is about HA's TPAC cuts, not your fixation w/ me, max.
take your ADHD meds and track w/ the conversation as Ben laid it out.
Thank you for your medical advice. How about you not claim to be the prophet of Hawaiian widebody usage at Alaska hubs. You simply are not.
I don't trash you, Tim. But when you flat out lie like you did multiple times yesterday or claim to be some prophet about things EVERY AVIATION BLOGGER was predicting... yeah. You can expect to get called out.
Keep a stiff upper lip. Your feelings are hurt...
Thank you for your medical advice. How about you not claim to be the prophet of Hawaiian widebody usage at Alaska hubs. You simply are not.
I don't trash you, Tim. But when you flat out lie like you did multiple times yesterday or claim to be some prophet about things EVERY AVIATION BLOGGER was predicting... yeah. You can expect to get called out.
Keep a stiff upper lip. Your feelings are hurt too easily. You don't need to cry when your lies are called out. You just need to post fewer inaccuracies.
the topic is HA's cuts.
When you rush onto this and every other thread looking to trash me and contributing nothing to the discussion, it very much is perfectly obvious there is something distinctively wrong with you, max.
and when you get around to it, post the articles and blogs that said AS would be decimating HA's HNL widebody network. You can't because nobody said it.
I repeatedly have said that HA was a...
the topic is HA's cuts.
When you rush onto this and every other thread looking to trash me and contributing nothing to the discussion, it very much is perfectly obvious there is something distinctively wrong with you, max.
and when you get around to it, post the articles and blogs that said AS would be decimating HA's HNL widebody network. You can't because nobody said it.
I repeatedly have said that HA was a money-losing airline and moving HNL-NRT would come nowhere near close to fixing what was wrong.
You can use google yourself. If you think you're the only one to predict HA wide bodies being used on Alaska's network, you're just an idiot and you can do your own research. lol
You're the only one talking to yourself thinking you alone predicted HA wide bodies on the Alaska network.
I don't rush on to every thread trashing you. You're obsessed with me and seem to think that, I'll give you...
You can use google yourself. If you think you're the only one to predict HA wide bodies being used on Alaska's network, you're just an idiot and you can do your own research. lol
You're the only one talking to yourself thinking you alone predicted HA wide bodies on the Alaska network.
I don't rush on to every thread trashing you. You're obsessed with me and seem to think that, I'll give you that. and to be clear, you're the one that replied to me on the Delta article.
Be less of an idiot. You were not the one to predict Hawaiian widebodies on Alaska network. Everyone and their brother was talking about the potential, to include the cranky podcast among others.
once again, max, I didn't say that HA widebodies would be used on AS' network. AS mgmt itself said as much.
I did say that nobody said that AS would cut multiple HNL widebody routes.
We are now up to 4.
The question again is whether you, not google, can provide links to show that anywhere near 4 HA longhaul HNL routes would be cut.
Where did you think AS was going to source those HA widebodies from? Magically make new ones appear from thin air without cutting some international routes?
Jesus, Tim. Give it up already. This is an incredibly stupid conversation and you're literally backing yourself into a logical brick wall by this constant new line in the sand of what you said.
No, you predicted nothing. The entire aviation nerd blog industry was talking about...
Where did you think AS was going to source those HA widebodies from? Magically make new ones appear from thin air without cutting some international routes?
Jesus, Tim. Give it up already. This is an incredibly stupid conversation and you're literally backing yourself into a logical brick wall by this constant new line in the sand of what you said.
No, you predicted nothing. The entire aviation nerd blog industry was talking about AS using HA widebodies on the AS network and of course that meant that some HA widebody routes would be cut to supply those widebodies.
It's like you don't even think before you type sometimes.
JUST the links to the predictions that AS would cancel 4 longhaul HA widebody routes, 3 of which are international.
WHO predicted that, max?
AS did say it would use 787s from SEA; they are significantly cutting 330 routes so they have opportunities to place them. Not a soul, including AS mgmt, has said that AS would cancel a bunch of 330 routes from HNL in order to fund other flights.
If they did, you should be able to provide the links.
All the best, Tim. I'm sure you have google. No, you were not the lone prophet forecasting that, in order to use HA Widebodies in SEA, that it requires taking widebodies off other routes.
This is the dumbest thing I've seen you desperately claim to in some time.
Again, all the best.
you still can't accurately note what the discussion is about.
AS THEMSELVES said they would use some of AS' widebodies to add SEA service.
THAT is not the issue.
The issue is that AS said it would not destroy HA's HNL longhaul network and many people believed them. I did not and they are indeed tearing HA"s HNL longhaul network apart.
You clearly can't stand to admit that I said for months that HA...
you still can't accurately note what the discussion is about.
AS THEMSELVES said they would use some of AS' widebodies to add SEA service.
THAT is not the issue.
The issue is that AS said it would not destroy HA's HNL longhaul network and many people believed them. I did not and they are indeed tearing HA"s HNL longhaul network apart.
You clearly can't stand to admit that I said for months that HA was a money-losing airline and AS is doing what they had no choice but to do which is to cut the money-losing routes.
Feel free to show me where anyone else said that AS would cut anywhere close to 4 longhaul HA routes from HNL.
Long time lurker first time poster here. Just to point out some things. I would argue that Alaska is not "tearing" Hawaiian's long haul network apart. In addition to the seasonal adds to mainland flying they are also adding Hnl-Syd frequency as well as Tahiti from HNL.
Also, I don't believe they are backtracking on their Hawaiian promises either. To please regulators they did have to maintain frequency and certain levels of service which...
Long time lurker first time poster here. Just to point out some things. I would argue that Alaska is not "tearing" Hawaiian's long haul network apart. In addition to the seasonal adds to mainland flying they are also adding Hnl-Syd frequency as well as Tahiti from HNL.
Also, I don't believe they are backtracking on their Hawaiian promises either. To please regulators they did have to maintain frequency and certain levels of service which they seem to be doing here. They are taking away some routes but adding others. Are they taking away 2 international long hauls in FUK and ICN? Yes, but like I just pointed out they're upping service elsewhere almost 1 to 1 (1 long haul international dropped and one with added frequency etc). Even when they moved NRT from HNL to SEA they upped HNL to HND service (frequency). I think Alaksa is taking a balanced approach so far and I haven't read anything that suggests they are abandoning HNL or picking it apart. In fact I have read the opposite; their leaders have said they want to grow HNL as a base and hub in their network.
Part of the assurances Alaska gave regulators and state leaders was helping to preserve jobs on the Hawaiian side. Right now anytime they add a route using a widebody they have to use Hawaiian crews, even if that route doesn't touch the state of Hawaii (think seasonal service SEA/ANC on a Hawaiian widebody). If I had to guess, and this is pure speculation, I would say that in the future we'll see some added service from HNL to Manila for example.
Right now Alaska and Hawaiian are in the midst of a merger. It's always messy and it can take a while to see the true picture unfold. Is the focus now on Seattle and Alaska's network? Yes. At the same time I don't think HNL has been abandoned or that Alaska is backtracking on their promises. I think when the merger is complete and Alaska gets things going in Seattle we'll see more Hawaii fanfare.
I think people are projecting a lot of what happened in the Virgin America merger onto this one. Hawai'i is a bit of a unique case and Alaska with its presence in another unique market that depends on air service has the experience to understand that. I think we'll see HNL remain an important hub in its own right, but more focused on interisland (Southwest is hemorrhaging money in this market and has neither the...
I think people are projecting a lot of what happened in the Virgin America merger onto this one. Hawai'i is a bit of a unique case and Alaska with its presence in another unique market that depends on air service has the experience to understand that. I think we'll see HNL remain an important hub in its own right, but more focused on interisland (Southwest is hemorrhaging money in this market and has neither the right airplanes nor the financial stamina to be able to scale up and effectively compete against HA in the long term), O&D markets to the US and profitable overseas gateways.
SEA is simply where the largest opportunity is right now for the combined airline- to push Delta out and take more of the market by reallocating widebodies to long haul international service. It's been no secret that DL's hub is struggling, and AS has a better chance of making long haul routes there work due to its superior ability to provide domestic feed.
Well said and you took my thoughts a step further by mentioning VA. Alaska, when first announcing this merger over a year ago, said right off the bat they were going to try and not make similar mistakes to their Virgin merger. Alaska made very public promises about their plans. I don't remember them promising to keep Hawaiians (long haul) network in tact. As I mentioned in my previous comment I think Alaska is really...
Well said and you took my thoughts a step further by mentioning VA. Alaska, when first announcing this merger over a year ago, said right off the bat they were going to try and not make similar mistakes to their Virgin merger. Alaska made very public promises about their plans. I don't remember them promising to keep Hawaiians (long haul) network in tact. As I mentioned in my previous comment I think Alaska is really trying to add when they take away. Hawaii as a place is challenging as it's an island chain not really close to anywhere else. Almost all their routes have to be long haul. I believe as you SEASFO said they will refocus Hawaii flying in the future once they settle the merger, get Seattle international long haul going and can find better routes to fly to and from HNL.
I'm sorry for Hawaiian and Hawaii but it's time to move on, no profits and no prospects, time for a completely merged airline with a new identity and a new name, I don't think Alaska is willing to give up their brand but it should consider becoming a streamline american carrier with a global brand and international appeal, SEA might be a good experiment to taste the waters as a global carrier, and hopefully they...
I'm sorry for Hawaiian and Hawaii but it's time to move on, no profits and no prospects, time for a completely merged airline with a new identity and a new name, I don't think Alaska is willing to give up their brand but it should consider becoming a streamline american carrier with a global brand and international appeal, SEA might be a good experiment to taste the waters as a global carrier, and hopefully they will manage to grow out of SEA. Hawaii won't ever be a profitable global hub unfortunately. Time to put things on order and bid farewell to Hawaiian and HNL.
of course HA was losing money. Many people figured that out.
but AS and HA BOTH made plenty of statements about retaining not just domestic but also HNL international service.
This is right from HA's merger announcement
"Honolulu to become a key hub for the combined airline with expanded service for residents of Hawai‘i to the Continental U.S. and creating new connections to Asia and throughout the Pacific for travelers across the U.S."
AS...
of course HA was losing money. Many people figured that out.
but AS and HA BOTH made plenty of statements about retaining not just domestic but also HNL international service.
This is right from HA's merger announcement
"Honolulu to become a key hub for the combined airline with expanded service for residents of Hawai‘i to the Continental U.S. and creating new connections to Asia and throughout the Pacific for travelers across the U.S."
AS and HA sold their HNL service to Asia which is why the State and its business leaders supported the merger.
Yes, it is lights out for HNL as an international gateway. The only thing left is for AS to add service to the S. Pacific so the S. Pacific flights can be ended.
Again tim
Post links where Alaska said they’d keep hawaiian’s international network in place.
Any link.
This is such a stupid thing for you to cling to and you even know how stupid you sound but you have no ability to admit when you’re wrong.
Get a grip.
Tim, cite your sources or stuff a salami in it.