A couple of days ago, I wrote about how China issued a travel warning for Japan, advising citizens against traveling to the country. The government of China argued that Japan was “unstable, with a high number of criminal incidents targeting Chinese citizens,” and the “security environment” has “continued to deteriorate.”
In reality, it seemed pretty clear that this was simply part of a diplomatic spat, with Japan’s new Prime Minister showing support for Taiwan, in the event that China tries to invade. I was curious to what extent these travel warnings would actually impact demand, and now we have our answer…
In this post:
32% of tickets to Japan canceled amid diplomatic issues
Following China’s recent travel warning, several Chinese airlines issued flight waivers for Japan, allowing customers to rebook their tickets at no cost.
So, just how many people are actually canceling their flights? According to the South China Morning Post, Chinese airlines have seen roughly 491,000 flight cancelations to Japan since Saturday, representing around 32% of tickets that have been booked for travel over that waiver period. This is the highest number of cancelations that have been seen in the market since the start of the coronavirus pandemic.
As another interesting figure, on Sunday, 27 times more people canceled flights between China and Japan than booked tickets.
China is among the largest markets for visiting Japan, with over seven million visitors from mainland China having visited Japan in the first nine months of the year. And it’s also a very fast growing market, since that number is over 40% higher than the number of visitors during that same period the year prior.
It’s going to be interesting to see how long this spat lasts
When I wrote about China’s travel warning against Japan, some people took issue with what I wrote. While I’ll gladly admit when I’m wrong, as of now, I stand by what I said.
Japan is one of the safest places in the world you can travel to, so to suggest that travelers from China face a high number of criminal incidents in Japan compared to just about anywhere else in the world is, to my knowledge, baseless.
For example, some people pointed out how in June, a Chinese national was stabbed in the chest multiple times on the streets of Kyoto (fortunately with non-life threatening injuries). The issue with that narrative is that the person who has been charged with that crime is a Chinese national who had overstayed his visa, and the two had reportedly gotten into an argument.
I’ll gladly update my stance if someone can show me these alleged widespread crimes that I’m missing, but it seems pretty clear to me what the motive here is.
Obviously China isn’t happy about Japan’s lack of support for the “reunification” of Taiwan, and this is about diplomatic concerns rather than actual safety concerns. Could there be some bad blood between Chinese and Japanese nationals? Sure. But does it seem likely that Chinese nationals will be attacked unprovoked by Japanese nationals? I think that’s highly unlikely…
I’m curious to see how this all plays out. Japan is of course one of the hottest tourist destinations in the world, and has been suffering from over tourism. So honestly, if this means there will be a little less demand for travel to Japan, maybe that’s not so bad for the rest of us.
Bottom line
China issued a travel warning for Japan, claiming there are a high number of criminal incidents targeting Chinese nationals. In reality, it seems pretty clear that this warning is politically motivated, given Japan’s government showing support for Taiwan.
I wasn’t sure to what extent this would impact travel demand, but travelers do seem to be taking note. Chinese airlines have reportedly seen 32% of tickets canceled, with very few new tickets still being booked. While tourism makes up a big part of Japan’s economy nowadays, fortunately the visitor profile is quite diversified, with demand from all over the world.
How long do you think we’re going to see this depressed travel demand between China and Japan?
Good timing. I'll be in Japan next week. Keep it up, Sanae!
Just flew PVG-KIX, and and KIX-HGH, planes were nearly full to my surprise.
A godsend for Japan and the other tourists. Thank you, PRC
Yes, Japan belongs to the americans. It's our playground, not theirs.
-- "Japan's Asahi Shimbun has reported that Prime Minister Takaichi privately told people around her that she "went a bit too far" with her Taiwan remarks.
A close aide reportedly said "We gave an answer without fully checking what the fallout would be."
good. now japan needs to repent and apologize publicly, not just privately, and maybe some damage will be undone. Such a stupid and unforced move by Japan leading to both international...
-- "Japan's Asahi Shimbun has reported that Prime Minister Takaichi privately told people around her that she "went a bit too far" with her Taiwan remarks.
A close aide reportedly said "We gave an answer without fully checking what the fallout would be."
good. now japan needs to repent and apologize publicly, not just privately, and maybe some damage will be undone. Such a stupid and unforced move by Japan leading to both international and domestic humiliation for its demented prime minister.
Japan does not need to "repent". They've not sinned against China. The over the top language suggests a PRC troll. Hope the commie bosses give you a good social credit score
As a few others have commented here: A decent percentage of Chinese foreign tourism is state authorized tour groups (30-40%). I smell PRC manipulation here to put pressure on Japan. Japan however has built up it's defense forces to the point that China now sees a legitimate threat to any move they would make towards Taiwan.
It's almost like dealing with Putin now. Constant escalation and threats.
"I smell PRC manipulation"... uh, yeah, isn't it obvious?
Xi and Putin want their 'sphere of influence' and to bully (and kill) their neighbors.
Great time to visit Japan. Foreign currency exchange is very favorable and there will be less crowds of Chinese shoppers with suitcases in tow all around the stores.
Nothing against the Chinese, just pointing out there is an opening travel spot for Japan.
Not sure it will last very long though. Money.
Agreed. Can't wait to visit!
China is the world's number one importer of soy bean while the US is the number one soy bean exporter. Who needs who? You obviously did not watch 60 Minutes last Sunday when it reported the increasing number of suicides and bankruptcies of family farm businesses in the red states, due to the lunatic tariffs war.
When Bush Jr. invaded Iraq, China was ecstatic because it knew the US would be dragged down into...
China is the world's number one importer of soy bean while the US is the number one soy bean exporter. Who needs who? You obviously did not watch 60 Minutes last Sunday when it reported the increasing number of suicides and bankruptcies of family farm businesses in the red states, due to the lunatic tariffs war.
When Bush Jr. invaded Iraq, China was ecstatic because it knew the US would be dragged down into a quagmire while China was free to expand its economic influences in Africa, South America and Asia. China is laser focused on economic dominance, not military adventures, for all the reasons you mentioned in the second paragraph. China buys deeply discounted gas from Russia, Iran and UAE/ Saudi Arabia. It controls 90% of the world's rare minerals --which forces the US to contemplate invading Greenland and Venezuela. It has a fifteen year plan, unlike the US government every presidential and congressional election cycle and US businesses every quarterly earnings calls.
while that may be true, China still has a number of economic and societal challenges that are unique in the world.
There are countries that have very publicly taken on their economic relationship with China and are not seeing their economies crater.
The US has a very strong relationship with Japan as well as a number of other countries in E. Asia that is economically far larger than China and its E. Asian...
while that may be true, China still has a number of economic and societal challenges that are unique in the world.
There are countries that have very publicly taken on their economic relationship with China and are not seeing their economies crater.
The US has a very strong relationship with Japan as well as a number of other countries in E. Asia that is economically far larger than China and its E. Asian allies.
Japan knows what it can get by with; we focus on aviation social media on subplots while failing to see the larger picture.
Japan will be just fine.
Tim, you are probably correct in your assessment of Japan being “Just fine”. It is sad that the same cannot be said for most of the proletariat who troll you on this website …. they are very sad people indeed and never held to account for their actions.
Well said, Tim. And what would make Japan even better is when Delta eventually operates a35K nonstop flights from JFK-HND or NRT. *wink*
Ben,
Unfortunately, you fail to comprehend the extensive and in-depth analyses from less than a hand full of readers among us, who genuinely understand Japan-China-Taiwan historic relations in connection to international law and order. Eat Asia is the most peaceful and harmonious and the least violent place on earth, in regard to religion and diplomacy. I assume all of us know where WWI and WWII took place. We do not agree with the notion...
Ben,
Unfortunately, you fail to comprehend the extensive and in-depth analyses from less than a hand full of readers among us, who genuinely understand Japan-China-Taiwan historic relations in connection to international law and order. Eat Asia is the most peaceful and harmonious and the least violent place on earth, in regard to religion and diplomacy. I assume all of us know where WWI and WWII took place. We do not agree with the notion that Japan is unsafe for mainland Chinese tourists. We are unable to enlighten you to encourage and promote ways for them to co-exist in peace and harmony. Instead, you "stand your ground" the Floridian way to deepen and widen the friction. It is always better to go against the conventional wisdom and be vindicated than "stick to your conviction" and be regretful and apologetic later.
And this, folks, is what we call verbal diarrhoea.
Absolutely Smic, you need medical attention to stop yours old sock.
Last time I looked it up the Japan China war lasted from 1937 to 45: you had Japan running Amok in that area, you had the internal Chinese wars which cost millions of lifes, then we have thecwar between China and Vietnam…
pleae define peaceful.
globetrotter: "Eat Asia" (sic)... yum!
Well Taiwan is part of China, so not sure where the invade reference comes from. Its never the violence rather media in the west and the spin doctors making a scene, good time to visit China and have a look yourselves. =)
Taiwan is China indeed but it's most definitely not PRC. It's the only part of China controlled by the legitimate government.
Samo gets it.
Joey meant to say "Taiwan is part of (the Republic of) China (the one true China)"
What awesome news.
Great time to visit Japan in Dec.!
Heck. Let’s all go now!
Addition by subtraction.
Delighted the Chinese visitors will be reduced! Would be great if they were completely banned!
Anyone debating lack of safety in Japan is simply incredibly ignorant. And they should given their views stay away from here!
Japan, you have the opportunity to be heros here and do something that causes this to extend to the whole of 2026!
It seems like the pro-CCP ten cent army is out in force. I can only imagine the moderated comments we can’t see.
As far as Japan, they’re probably very happy about the cancelled trips. A minimal amount of effort and they can replace them with other travelers.
Dammit I just returned from a month long trip. The whole time I thought this would be so much more tolerable if all the damn mainland Chinese tours weren't here.
Cool! A great time to visit Japan!
Lucky Japan
They don’t need obnoxious Nainland tourists
When the proletariat attempts to escalate a topic into conflict, one is best advised to avoid debate, disengage and ignore the gross ignorance being expressed, yes?
Blink if youre under duress.
It is hard to feel compassion for the proletariat who are posting rude, crude, revolting and uneducated comments. Their behaviour obviously means something. Are they feeling sidelined because of their inadequacy, or, could this be simply out-of-character conduct indicating cognitive or neurological change?
Uh oh, looks like we got a Manchurian Candidate over here...
Is this some safe words ( •ω•˘ ).｡oஇ
A Chinese, since we're doing 'Animal Farm' on here, I think of AeroB13a as less of one of the 'pigs' (Napoleon, Snowball, Squealer, or Old Major) and as more of a 'donkey' (Benjamin, the old cynic, aware of the corruption but are unwilling to act until it is too late.)
When the proletariat becomes more argumentative, rigid or politically obsessed, this can sometimes point to changes in the frontal lobes of the brain rather than simply a change in ideology. These regions govern inhibition, empathy and social awareness, the necessary abilities that keep anger and impulsive behaviour in check.
Is that a 'Queen of Diamonds' you got there?
This is great... the commies have been ruining Japan these past few years!
The confronted proletariat suffers a sense of siege …. that others have been brainwashed. Only the proletariat sees the truth. This is the psychology of polarisation, driven less by ideology than by the brain's threat response to difference, where perceived rejection activates the limbic system, turning disagreement into danger.
Japan should welcome the reprieve from the worlds worst tourists ever. If we had not just traveled to Japan I would think now is the time to go.
"Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?"
(Kinda feels like you're doing a 'trigger phrase' on here.)
I guess we'll see if the Japanese decide they actually want more tourists after all. If they do, I'll be happy to go after I get a groveling apology for some of their past statements about overtourism.
They do seem to be a bit "two faced" about it... Not a single day goes by that I don't see an email from some Japanese tourist group / area - come visit ( insert region)
Yet constant complaining in Japanese media about tourism. I get many travelers are uncouth.
But please choose a lane.
“That’s what Xi said” - tired old irrelevant American propagandist found on this site
That’s what Xi said. LOL.
Get a life
On these pages we see anger functioning as a secondary emotion, protecting a more vulnerable emotion beneath. The proletariat’s fury may mask sadness, loneliness, or even something more existential …. a fear of change, of being irrelevant and dismissed.
One more time, just for you: That's what Xi said.
On these pages we see anger functioning as a secondary emotion, protecting a more vulnerable emotion beneath. The proletariat’s fury may mask sadness, loneliness, or even something more existential …. a fear of change, of being irrelevant and dismissed.
That's... what Xi said.
The three most helpful comments as chosen by the OMAAT community are:
"lol what drugs are you on?"
"Loser"
-and-
"That surprises me. Can you provide evidence?" (no context given, though presumably this was part of a back-and-forth.)
How are these, especially the first two, helpful comments? How has the OMAAT community chosen them? Is there any way to make the comments on this board more useful, and send the playground sand-throwing to a sandbox somewhere?
The first two (directed at AeroB13a's comments below) are 'helpful' (within their context).
The proletariat feels unsafe when confronted and everything is reduced to binaries, eg, right or wrong, us or them, because rigid certainty gives the illusion of control.
That's what Xi said.
When I saw your first article I thought this might happen. Chinese nationals are well aware of the repercussions of not following state directives. They may be free to travel the world, but they are not free to disregard state policy.
Hopefully Japan’s tourism can weather this storm. Most Japanese realize the threat China represents in the region.
Excellent news!
Ben, you probably know this but the reason for the precipitous fall in bookings on the back of a government travel warning is that it immediately invalidates your travel insurance (most of us outside the US use travel insurance on trips).
So if anything at all happens on your trip, you can't make an insurance claim. But you can make a claim for a refund of said trip if the government changed its policy...
Ben, you probably know this but the reason for the precipitous fall in bookings on the back of a government travel warning is that it immediately invalidates your travel insurance (most of us outside the US use travel insurance on trips).
So if anything at all happens on your trip, you can't make an insurance claim. But you can make a claim for a refund of said trip if the government changed its policy before you travel to deem the country "unsafe".
It has nothing to do with actual safety, it's all about money.
That makes a lot of sense, because I can't imagine that many travelers actually thinking their lives are in danger from targeted anti-Chinese violence or repression if they visit Japan.
super helpful to know !
the details matter!!
I purchase travel insurance (NY), and PROC's warning doesn't impact our policies. The USA has not warning anyone about anything to do with Japan. There are more Americans visiting than ever.
Communists versus fascists issue.
BS from eighty years ago still dominating current events. Both sides need to grow up.
Last I checked only one side was so embarrassed about failing to conquer an island 70 years ago that it's still one of their biggest government policy positions today.
@Dusty
You mean Cuba?
Bay of pigs was a mess.
Missile crisis made everyone paranoid.
Till today, Still an embargo and can't visit freely.
I have been a long-time reader of your blog and have immense respect for your work.
As a Chinese reader, I must admit that I am consistently bothered by a noticeable shift in your tone whenever a post addresses a China-related topic. Your usual mature, measured voice seems to be replaced by something far less nuanced—a shift that undermines your otherwise insightful commentary.
This is not about freedom of speech; it is about depth of...
I have been a long-time reader of your blog and have immense respect for your work.
As a Chinese reader, I must admit that I am consistently bothered by a noticeable shift in your tone whenever a post addresses a China-related topic. Your usual mature, measured voice seems to be replaced by something far less nuanced—a shift that undermines your otherwise insightful commentary.
This is not about freedom of speech; it is about depth of analysis. It appears that your opinions on China, Japan, and Taiwan are built upon what I perceive to be a shallow or one-sided understanding of the complex historical and legal frameworks involved. While I understand you might feel strongly about certain issues, feelings should be secondary to historical facts and international law in an analytical piece.
The relationships between China, Japan, and Taiwan are profoundly complicated, involving centuries of history, particularly the legacy of World War II and subsequent international legal agreements.
I urge you to dig deeper:
World War II History: Specifically, the actions taken by Japan against the Chinese people.
Post-War International Law: The agreements that defined Japan’s post-war status and its constitutional limitations on military action.
Cross-Strait Relations: A closer look at the constitutional claims and historical developments between mainland China and Taiwan.
We pride ourselves on being a rule-based society, yet your commentary on China often appears to prioritize a subjective sense of "rightness" over the verifiable facts of history and the constraints of international law. I hope you will consider these points in your future writing.
Jay, the only government being aggressive here is the PRC. End of story. There is no resemblance between the Japanese government of today and the military junta that invaded China 90 years ago. There is no justification for the PRC's aggressive rhetoric and military actions against Taiwan and other Southeast Asia nations. As long as the PRC espouses the goal of VIOLENT "reunification", the PRC can get bent.
there is no shift; the tone is the same as other topics.
the "bother" you are experiencing is cognitive dissonance arising out of your backwards, bootlicking worldview being exposed as pathetic by a neutral, fact-based authority.
Anyone challenging the proletariat’s beliefs is a “Snowflake” or “Woke” or “Elite” or “Entitled” or “Privileged” and becomes a perceived threat, fuelling the proletariat’s self-appointed duty to defend their version of common sense. When the proletariat’s mind is in threat mode, survival trumps reflection and reality.
When everyone else says "snowflake", it's a vile racism and you show Aaron-level ragebaited behavior.
But when you say "snowflake", it's suddenly appropriate.
Typical AeroB13a hypocrisy.
Do reassure the other reader that you understand written English. A reference which places words of the “Proletariat” in quotation marks, can never be described as hypocritical, it is simply highlighting the words posted by the others, yes?
AeroB13a, you're not even saying anything to anyone; you're just repeating the same nonsense... kinda like... 'That's what Xi said.' *wink*
The keyboard warrior stance gives the proletariat status, of being a participant and not just a bystander.
Again, this means fewer poorly behaved mainlanders so for everyone else it's a plus.
Correct.
Fewer rude and inconsiderate mainlanders in Japan? awesome.
PRC Chinese tourists are very obnixious. They're loud, spit eveywhere and have no decorum
CCP bots out in full force in the comment section
For the proletariat online spaces can act as surrogate communities and outrage may have become the proletariat’s way to feel engaged and relevant. So has the proletariat well and truly lost the plot? That is the $64,000 question.
That's. What. Xi. Said.
The proletariat raised on a clear moral frameworks …. right/wrong, respect/disrespect …. is now navigating an information world defined by fluidity and ambiguity. This clash fuels what is called intolerance of uncertainty, where, as seen during the pandemic, conspiracy theories flourish and anger becomes a coping strategy.
Loser.
A lot of yapping but zero contribution. Great job as usual
lol what drugs are you on?
@Aero:
Dude, please stop
the issue will fix itself after Japan comes to its senses and apologies
That's what Xi said... (but, he's still wrong to think that.)
They are dozens of apologies issued by the government of Japan, and offered cash compensations multiple times…
I agree. Once Japan apologizes for taking so long to find a way to eliminate the Chinese tourists I'll be happy. You're up next Europe, Thailand and Australia. Travel happiness is on the horizon once again. Yay.
Tourists. Soybeans. Rare earths. Canola. Another reminder to other countries of China's enormous clout.
That's what Xi said... (and it's a great reminder to the world to not trust the CCP.)
Brazil, Argentina, and the United States all produce more soybeans than mainland China. Canola is as common as muck, and grown almost everywhere. Rare earth exploration, extraction, and refinement is accelerating outside China. And tourists? There are already too many. The Chinese can all stay at home and they'll barely be missed.
The world can adapt to life without China's participation, and adapt quickly. The question is, how would China adapt to the rest of...
Brazil, Argentina, and the United States all produce more soybeans than mainland China. Canola is as common as muck, and grown almost everywhere. Rare earth exploration, extraction, and refinement is accelerating outside China. And tourists? There are already too many. The Chinese can all stay at home and they'll barely be missed.
The world can adapt to life without China's participation, and adapt quickly. The question is, how would China adapt to the rest of the world giving it the cold shoulder? There are a lot of mouths to feed, a lot of industries needing raw materials, a lot of power plants needing fuel.
RE: Soybeans, last I checked China imports more than they export. They were importing US soybeans, until the stable genius in office kicked off his second trade war. Now they buy from Argentina and US soybean farmers are left holding the bag.
Can adapt and will adapt are two different things! As for giving China the cold shoulder… it’s a drug too addictive to give up especially for businesses who want to make huge profits from cheap production. The world makes China and China makes the world.
Japan offended China by voicing support for Taiwan. The Chinese government essentially shut off travel to Japan. The US has imposed tariffs on China so Chinese imports of soybeans shifted to Argentina leaving US farmers needing bailouts. Canada offended China so Chinese imports of canola (production of which is concentrated in three countries) dropped off the cliff impacting Canadian farmers. China still controls the rare earth supply chain. In the short term China, to quote...
Japan offended China by voicing support for Taiwan. The Chinese government essentially shut off travel to Japan. The US has imposed tariffs on China so Chinese imports of soybeans shifted to Argentina leaving US farmers needing bailouts. Canada offended China so Chinese imports of canola (production of which is concentrated in three countries) dropped off the cliff impacting Canadian farmers. China still controls the rare earth supply chain. In the short term China, to quote an American, is holding all the cards.
Blogs like this just shows how little they understand international politics. Obviously this is a diplomatic nightmare for Japan.
Masaaki Kanai, head of the Asian and Oceanian Affairs Bureau at Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs Rushed to Beijing immediately but left empty handed.
Look, while western tourists might see this as a win due to less tourists overall, I can guarantee you it’s catastrophic for Japan economy. You just don’t understand how this impacts not...
Blogs like this just shows how little they understand international politics. Obviously this is a diplomatic nightmare for Japan.
Masaaki Kanai, head of the Asian and Oceanian Affairs Bureau at Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs Rushed to Beijing immediately but left empty handed.
Look, while western tourists might see this as a win due to less tourists overall, I can guarantee you it’s catastrophic for Japan economy. You just don’t understand how this impacts not just tourism but secondary boycotting effects to other japans export industries. Who is japans largest trading partner????? Anyone?
HAH. He left without giving the Chinese anything since the Commies are clearly showing themselves to be unreasonable. Stand strong Japan! The free world stands with Taiwan and Japan.
This.
I am pretty sure that Abe and Ishiba would do what Takaichi said, should China “unifies” Taiwan “by force”. The difference? Not a single sane PM in the past said that in public. Fortunately, most Japanese PMs were sane.
Japan is a resource dependent country. The exact reason they chose to attack Pearl Harbor was the United States embargoed them. Now, Japan is facing both Donnie’s tariffs and China’s diplomatic tensions that would very...
This.
I am pretty sure that Abe and Ishiba would do what Takaichi said, should China “unifies” Taiwan “by force”. The difference? Not a single sane PM in the past said that in public. Fortunately, most Japanese PMs were sane.
Japan is a resource dependent country. The exact reason they chose to attack Pearl Harbor was the United States embargoed them. Now, Japan is facing both Donnie’s tariffs and China’s diplomatic tensions that would very likely end up in trade limitations. Guess how their economy will be affected?
No politicians’ call should stop general public from broadening their horizons by traveling abroad. However, even from a completely realpolitik perspective, I still do not believe Takaichi’s remarks about Taiwan is wise.
When did OMAAT get infiltrated by Chinese online bots and trolls?
I donno, Eve; doesn't mean we have to 'let them' spread their CCP propaganda unanswered.
Some will suggest, ignore the trolls. Naw, I'd rather 'troll the trolls.'
I'd rather say 'no,' and counter their lies.
The wu mao got the call this week and are hard at work. Those of us westerners who have lived in China know Ben is spot on
I calling Ben out not for his stance on Japan being safe for tourists… I think majority of folks know this is propaganda from China. But that’s totally expected.
I’m calling Ben out for thinking this is a silly save face tactic from China… I am here to tell you that Japan is taking the actions by China very seriously because they understand the implications.
They (Japan) need to save face too and can’t just...
I calling Ben out not for his stance on Japan being safe for tourists… I think majority of folks know this is propaganda from China. But that’s totally expected.
I’m calling Ben out for thinking this is a silly save face tactic from China… I am here to tell you that Japan is taking the actions by China very seriously because they understand the implications.
They (Japan) need to save face too and can’t just take back PMs comments. But they are desperately trying to find a way out of this as evident by japans eagerness to start talking to China.
@Davisson
That is Oriental Wisdom! Just like Japan still call **losing WW2 as an Axis nation** as "shuusen" (lit. end of the war) or China calls Cultural Revolution "bumpy trip towards socialism", they will not recall the remarks because if they do, domestic "netouyo" (lit. right wing on the internet), Takaichi's loyalist force, will call Takaichi traitor and drop support to her. Japan has a long tradition of doing so in the last century,...
@Davisson
That is Oriental Wisdom! Just like Japan still call **losing WW2 as an Axis nation** as "shuusen" (lit. end of the war) or China calls Cultural Revolution "bumpy trip towards socialism", they will not recall the remarks because if they do, domestic "netouyo" (lit. right wing on the internet), Takaichi's loyalist force, will call Takaichi traitor and drop support to her. Japan has a long tradition of doing so in the last century, and it directly led to the election of Tojo cabinet, and we all know what happened next
Now, the right wing mobs would rather have the entire nation suffer an economic hit just to save face and tell the story that they can be harsh on China. Sounds Juche to me.
lol great old school wolf warrior agitprop there Davisson
No, I think Davisson has it right …. Japan has become more and more dependent on Chinese trade and tourism…. I just wonder how many times does japan have to be bitten before they start to turn their economy away from china.
@FoulOwl
Generally countries with big tourist industries don't choose their tourists.
The PRC is:
1. Nearby
2. Has a large "new money" middle class that wants to travel and spend their money
3. Has a massive population overall, exacerbating #2
Japan literally can't end Chinese tourism without heavily restricting travel by PRC nationals generally, which would be disastrous for far more than just tourism in Japan. Personally, I don't think...
@FoulOwl
Generally countries with big tourist industries don't choose their tourists.
The PRC is:
1. Nearby
2. Has a large "new money" middle class that wants to travel and spend their money
3. Has a massive population overall, exacerbating #2
Japan literally can't end Chinese tourism without heavily restricting travel by PRC nationals generally, which would be disastrous for far more than just tourism in Japan. Personally, I don't think the cancellations are that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. It's not much of a political or economic stick for the PRC, because as mentioned plenty elsewhere, there's a lot of other people who'd take up the slack with the weak yen. Just going by statistics, Chinese tourism hasn't recovered to pre-COVID levels but tourism from Korea and Taiwan has more than taken up the slack: https://www.tourism.jp/en/tourism-database/stats/inbound/
just as with the US-Canada spat, Chinese airlines are taking the biggest hit in declines.
Airplanes are mobile factories and can be moved but there will be a financial hit to the state-owned Chinese airlines.
Sounds like Canada when the American leadership offended them, except Trump was much ruder to them than the Japanese have been to China.
"Japan is one of the safest places in the world you can travel to".
If you are a white man (gay or straight), Ben.
I don't think woman share this.
That surprises me. Can you provide evidence?
Foreign woman can feel safe.
I'm half-Japanese. I'd assume George is referring to sexual harassment in Japan. Stories about groping and upskirt photos, particularly on trains, make the rounds every now and then. I will be the first to acknowledge that Japan has a problematic culture regarding gender, misogyny, and sex, although practically speaking I think the issue is overblown and I doubt women traveling there would face a risk materially beyond what you would find in other countries. I've...
I'm half-Japanese. I'd assume George is referring to sexual harassment in Japan. Stories about groping and upskirt photos, particularly on trains, make the rounds every now and then. I will be the first to acknowledge that Japan has a problematic culture regarding gender, misogyny, and sex, although practically speaking I think the issue is overblown and I doubt women traveling there would face a risk materially beyond what you would find in other countries. I've had many friends who have traveled to Japan and have never heard any complain about problematic encounters, although I am a male so that might just be something that wouldn't be shared with me. I certainly would be interested to hear the perspectives of women who have traveled there.
This. Women aren't in danger of any life threatening violence, it's more groping / unwanted touching. The japanese call it "chikan" and there are posters in train stations warning about it. Basically on crowded trains some people see an opportunity to get handsy. That's why there are women only train cars as a way to combat this. It's not something to worry about daily but it must occur enough to address it this way.
I think it is a typo. It should be India not Japan.
And what would be a safer place for women to travel to?
I'm not saying Chinese travelers are facing widespread danger more than non-Chinese travelers, but at least in Korea (can't speak to Japan, where I haven't been recently) there is a much, much higher degree of anxiety and what would be called racism in the US against China and Chinese people out in the open compared to even a few years ago.
The last president openly supported a conspiracy theory that multiple elections were rigged.
Which included blaming China for everything.
Somehow this triggered the majority of Korean old dudes and males in their 20s-30s.
Then they started to march in streets and that's what you saw.
Honestly, given their economic dependence, how dumb that they do that and think they're acting patriot.
Good for tourist from other countries to visit during this period but I doubt it will be good for Japanese economy.
It's been tanking for a while with prices going up every year for locals.
Japan had too much tourists coming in, and seeing a reduction in their quantity seems to be a good thing.
Looking forward for this December.
Maybe a bit hurtful for the new Abenomics Takaichi wants to push which includes promoting foreigners' spending within Japan. But it's not like Japan is gonna die because of that.
If only the same thing could happen with bookings from the US what a lovely time it would be to visit Japan
Should probably look into airfares between the two countries. Maybe I can finally afford to fly in First.
Prices are still stable.
We thinkin' recliner 'First' (a321 or 737, meh, lame, or with Air China, a Comac C919, yikes, avoid), or like JAL/ANA (777) legit 'First'?
ANA and JAL do operate 777s between China and Japan while you may sit in The Suite with business class service. JAL’s F seats sold as J are for OW EMDs only and ANA’s are for its own Diamond only.
"JAL’s F seats sold as J are for OW EMDs" that's epic!
Everyone I know in Japan in relieved to have fewer tourists. This might hurt if the country weren't about as hot as you can get without Mike White doing a show there.
This might be a good thing to increase tourism actually. As all the other tourist will be happy all the Chinese tourists are gone.
If you see Asian people being loud, eating noisily and being generally obnoxious you can tell where they're from immediately.
And everyone loved that!
Chinese tend to travel abroad as part of tour groups. I bet a few old people panicked and the tour groups cancelled all bookings to reduce financial risk.
A lot of major Chinese travel companies are owned by some state investment vehicle so it won’t be surprising to see heavy state interference on the travel plans
Oh no! ...anyway.
That's what Xi said.