Delta Bans Employees From Wearing Flag Pins

Delta Bans Employees From Wearing Flag Pins

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Delta Air Lines is changing its uniform policy, eliminating what was a cool form of expression for frontline employees. If you ask me, unfortunately the airline really had no choice here.

I first wrote about this a few days ago, but wanted to provide an update, as this situation is now being used in an effort to get flight attendants at Delta to unionize, and I can’t help but find this to be a bad faith argument.

Palestine flag issue causes Delta policy change

Historically, Delta employees have been allowed to wear flag pins, representing countries and nationalities of the world. While airline employees of course wear uniforms, it’s nice to give people some ability to express themselves, and it can even be a great conversation starter.

For example, many flight attendants who speak foreign languages might have a flag pin for a foreign country they speak the language of, which can be an easy way for non-English speaking passengers to identify them. Others might just have a connection to a certain culture, and it’s intended to be a good way for employees and passengers to connect.

Unfortunately in recent times, any positives from these flag pins have been outweighed by the negatives. There have been several viral incidents whereby Delta employees were spotted wearing Palestinian flags, and of course this caused an uproar online. This put Delta in a tricky position:

  • Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry
  • Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear “any clothing that conveys a message or advocates a position or cause other than Delta-sponsored programs or initiatives”
  • Delta hasn’t explicitly told employees they couldn’t wear Palestinian flags, because as you’d expect, that wouldn’t go over well

So Delta is now addressing this issue by more broadly updating its flag pin policy. As of July 15, 2024, Delta is no longer allowing employees to wear any flag pins with their uniform, with the exception of the US flag. Here’s how Delta describes this decision:

We are taking this step to help ensure a safe, comfortable and welcoming environment for all. We are proud of our diverse base of employees and customers and the foundation of our brand, which is to connect the world and provide a premium experience.

Unfortunately I think this all fits into the “this is why we can’t have nice things” category, and I’m not sure Delta had another choice here, but to address it this way.

Back in the day, Emirates flight attendants used to wear flag pins representing their home country. It was such a fun aspect of the Emirates uniform, and highlighted how international the company’s flight attendants are. However, eventually China found out that Emirates was letting employees wear Taiwan flag pins, and then demanded that the airline immediately stop allowing that.

As you’d expect, Emirates couldn’t simply eliminate the Taiwan flag, so the airline just got rid of flag pins altogether.

“Terrified” Delta social media employee “counseled”

The biggest Delta social media story of the past week involves a Twitter/X post, where someone posted pictures of two Delta flight attendants wearing the Palestinian flag, and wrote the following:

Since 2001 we take our shoes off in every airport because a terrorist attack in US soil. Now imagine getting into a @Delta flight and seeing workers with Hamas badges in the air. What do you do?

The official Delta account responded as follows:

I hear you as I’d be terrified as well, personally. Our employees reflect our culture and we do not take it lightly when our policy is not being followed.

To me it seems likely that the Delta social media employee might just not have been paying attention with what was being shared (or took the comment, rather than the picture, at face value — that’s the Palestinian flag, not a “Hamas badge”), since surely that wasn’t Delta’s intended official response.

Delta has now taken action regarding this. First, the company “removed a mistakenly posted comment on X because it was not in line with our values and our mission to connect the world.” Not only that, but “the team member responsible for the post has been counseled and no longer supports Delta’s social channels.”

I mean, I’ll simply say that I don’t envy the job of airline social media employees. On a good day, they get to deal with angry people complaining about delayed flights, lost bags, etc. On a bad day, they get drawn into lose-lose conflicts.

Union uses flag pin situation for clout

Let me start by saying that I’m a generally pro-union guy, which is to say that I think workers should be able to unionize without intimidation, and that unions serve as an important balance to corporate greed.

Delta is the only major airline in the United States where flight attendants aren’t unionized. For the record, I think that’s great too — if they’re happy with their situation, kudos to all involved.

Of course there have long been efforts to convince flight attendants at Delta to unionize, and now the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) is using this flag pin controversy as a way to argue for unionization at the airline. The AFA is requesting that Delta issue a public apology, and backtrack on its new flag pin ban, once again allowing flight attendants to display all flags.

As the union explains:

Working Delta Flight Attendants have been subject to harassment after pictures taken without their consent were circulated on social media with false, inflammatory, and discriminatory allegations. Delta’s social media responses showed contempt for current employees, and the subsequent lack of public response and concern for the safety of all crew members is unacceptable. We are calling on Delta management to issue a public apology, strengthen protections for crew members, and address shortcomings in your corporate social media moderation strategy.

The union then makes the following demands:

The Delta AFA Steering Committee, the national representative body of Delta Flight Attendants organizing our union, demands the following: 

  • Public Apology: Delta leadership must publicly apologize to the targeted crew members, confirm that pins representing the flags of different nations are allowed per policy, and denounce the moderator’s response. Leadership must further issue an unambiguous statement from Delta explicitly stating all employees deserve a safe and harassment-free work environment.
  • Protection for Crew Members: A public statement implementing the prohibition of non-consensual photography of crew members while on duty or in uniform.
  • Social Media Moderation: Immediate action to address shortcomings in its corporate social media moderation strategy, ensuring proper handling of sensitive situations and upholding company values.

The union’s perspective here seems highly idealistic. Delta already bans photography of frontline employees without their consent. But the union wants employees to be able to wear Palestine flags, and to not be harassed publicly.

Like, I don’t disagree with the premise that we should have the right to express ourselves in a respectful way without fear of harassment. But, umm, I wouldn’t exactly say that reflects the reality of the discourse in this country at the moment.

Do you think some random person on Twitter/X who is calling a Palestinian flag a “Hamas badge” is simply going to not “expose” people online because it violates Delta’s policy, when they have strongly held beliefs about it?

Bottom line

Delta is updating its employee uniform policy. As of July 15, 2024, Delta employees can no longer wear flag pins, aside from ones with the US flag. Unfortunately in recent times, all the discussion around Delta’s flag pins has centered around a small number of employees wearing Palestinian flags. This put Delta in a tough spot, and the airline chose to address this in the most “delicate” way possible, by just eliminating the flag pin concept altogether.

What do you make of Delta updating its flag pin policy?

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  1. Gary Hohenstein Guest

    If this was an Israel flag that was banned , Ben would be crying about antisemitisn. But anti Palestinian is ok!! Doesn't matter that thousands of women and children are being killed by genocide there.

  2. Brian W Guest

    Curious does this apply to pride flag pins also?

    1. Gary Hohenstein Guest

      If it did, we would never hear the end of it from Ben!!!

  3. Grzegorz Guest

    Free Palestine...from Hamas. Yes, the so-called "palestinian flag" is 100% equal with a Hamas badge. Hamas is the legally elected government of Palestine, supported by over 90% of the population. This is exactly the same thing.

  4. Nick Guest

    @ Ben-you mention generally you’re pro union to help fight against corporate greed.

    How do you feel about unsustainable demands of unions and union greed?

  5. iamhere Guest

    If you are a Delta employee and do not like the flag rules then quit and find another job. I completely agree with Delta's flag policy. I think it saves people's uneducated assumptions and avoids political issues as in the examples you presented and others.

  6. Alex Guest

    Front line employees in any company are there to work, not to make support statements of any kind. Support your company by providing superior service not political or social support statements.

  7. James Guest

    This is such a (rare) bad take here Ben.

    I’m very disappointed you see to have gone to great lengths to appear reasonable when defending a completely unreasonable view.

    Palestine is not Hamas.

    Palestine is a nation that is suffering from extreme cruelty, suffering, famine, death, terrorism, poverty and genocide. From both Hamas and israel.

    Denouncing genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today - should not be...

    This is such a (rare) bad take here Ben.

    I’m very disappointed you see to have gone to great lengths to appear reasonable when defending a completely unreasonable view.

    Palestine is not Hamas.

    Palestine is a nation that is suffering from extreme cruelty, suffering, famine, death, terrorism, poverty and genocide. From both Hamas and israel.

    Denouncing genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today - should not be a controversial stance at all. Less still should it be out of the ordinary a union representing a group of people that agree with that reasonable and common view.

    Bowing to no doubt some form of pro-israel pressure isn’t going to end well and has sadly made me see your blog in a new light.

    It lacks both any nuance or standing up for what’s right.

    Ben, please: you can do better!!

    1. Watson Diamond

      > genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today

      This sounds like a textbook example of lacking any nuance.

      High collateral damage does not imply genocide. Hamas could surrender and this war would be over tomorrow.

  8. Bob Moran Guest

    The people of Palestine support Hamas. Never forget, they were the ones who helped Hamas overthrow the Palestinian Authority, murder their leaders or force them into exile, and then kept Hamas in power. So, in a very real sense Palestine is Hamas and Hamas is Palestine. saying they're not the same is a convenient foil to try to disconflate the two. After all, when was the last time you saw the innocent people of Palestine...

    The people of Palestine support Hamas. Never forget, they were the ones who helped Hamas overthrow the Palestinian Authority, murder their leaders or force them into exile, and then kept Hamas in power. So, in a very real sense Palestine is Hamas and Hamas is Palestine. saying they're not the same is a convenient foil to try to disconflate the two. After all, when was the last time you saw the innocent people of Palestine demonstrating against Hamas in the streets of Gaza? That's right, you didn't. Why not? Again, because they're one and the same.

  9. ernestnywang Gold

    @Lucky, I am really surprised and feel your articles get unreasonably biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine, even though I think the vast majority of your other articles are fair enough. I have already made my previous comment, so I will not repeat that part, but the rationale you put in your summary of this update again baffles me.

    I am actually fine if DL decides that the US flag is the only...

    @Lucky, I am really surprised and feel your articles get unreasonably biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine, even though I think the vast majority of your other articles are fair enough. I have already made my previous comment, so I will not repeat that part, but the rationale you put in your summary of this update again baffles me.

    I am actually fine if DL decides that the US flag is the only flag flight attendants can wear in the future. The policy is itself reasonable, as DL is a US airline. However, you seem to imply that wearing a Palestanian flag does not "[reflect] the reality of the discourse in this country [the US] at the moment." What exactly is the reality of the discourse in your opinion?

    I also agree having a policy prohibiting people posting flight attendants' photo online without consent would not stop someone calling a Palestinian flag a Hamas badge from exposing people online. Nevertheless, should there not be a policy just because someone will certainly violate it?

    I would really like to kindly ask you to review your rationale and see if you would still consider what you said to be reasonable if Palestine is not involved.

  10. LadyOlives Guest

    No American flags either, and none of those tacky ones with eagles. American jingoism is awful.

  11. Jill Guest

    Id love to see the reaction of these flight attendants ad some passengers if people wore Israeli Flag pins....
    #FoodForThought

  12. Uri Guest

    I would probably pull a Delta if I were you and eliminate the comments completely from this article. Really depressing to see that a community of travel lovers sink down to this.

    1. Never In Doubt Guest

      That would be the equivalent of napalming Ben’s engagement harvest.

      He shudders at the thought.

  13. Geoff Guest

    Good lord! Just do your job and be quiet. No one cares about your beliefs. Why is this so difficult????

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  14. Ric Guest

    Keeping politics out of this comment - how are airline passengers supposed to know which FA's speak their language now ?
    Does Delta develop its own signage:
    "I speak Espanol", I speak German

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  15. Azamaraal Diamond

    I apologize for my comments that are off topic (along with others).
    But this question is threatening world peace.

  16. Azamaraal Diamond

    There is no country called Palestine - just a terrorist organization

    For at least 3500 years Jews have inhabited the land now called Israel.

    Around 660 AD a terrorist called M subjugated the Saudi peninsula with a peaceful offer to all the small villages - convert to Islam or die. (Subsequently he invaded and conquered most of southern Europe with the same message and the invaders were not thrown out until the mid 14th...

    There is no country called Palestine - just a terrorist organization

    For at least 3500 years Jews have inhabited the land now called Israel.

    Around 660 AD a terrorist called M subjugated the Saudi peninsula with a peaceful offer to all the small villages - convert to Islam or die. (Subsequently he invaded and conquered most of southern Europe with the same message and the invaders were not thrown out until the mid 14th century).

    Yet some claim that the Jewish people are colonizers and, typical of their religion, want Israeli's to convert or die. (Really just don't want them to convert). Israel chooses to exist.

    Goebbels said it well - if you tell the lie often enough even you will begin to believe it.

    Don't forget 9/11. After Israel you are next.

    1. Nick in Chicago Guest

      Ok, Goebbels. Keep cranking out the propaganda.

  17. Watson Diamond

    Wear a pin if you speak the language. Otherwise, leave it at home.

  18. bridarshy New Member

    Delta is an American carrier, with primarily domestic flights, American passengers, American flight attendants and American pilots. They are also the only major carrier to NOT have a plane flown into the WTC. 9/10 times, if a Delta flight attendant is wearing a flag pin its going to be an American Flag, because after all, "9/11 Never Forget." Delta forgot.

  19. JJ Guest

    Your opinion not withstanding, let’s discuss the facts. There is no Palestine and there never was. Sure, throughout history there has been some country recognition but not globally. The people in Gaza elected a known terrorist organization - Hamas to represent their government. Then, as terrorists often do when they seize control, they eliminated elections. Next they declared war on Israel by crossing the border illegally to rape, pillage, burn, and kidnap Israeli victims. What...

    Your opinion not withstanding, let’s discuss the facts. There is no Palestine and there never was. Sure, throughout history there has been some country recognition but not globally. The people in Gaza elected a known terrorist organization - Hamas to represent their government. Then, as terrorists often do when they seize control, they eliminated elections. Next they declared war on Israel by crossing the border illegally to rape, pillage, burn, and kidnap Israeli victims. What EXACTLY did you expect Israel’s response to be? What would the US response be if the same thing happened here? Well, after 9/11 we invaded two countries and killed tens of thousands of people and replaced their governments. Israel is doing the same. I don’t want to se ANY pins on DL uniforms other than the US Flag.

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  20. won'tflyperiod Guest

    Whoever wrote the headline was seriously dishonest!! Delta NEVER banned flag pins; they banned flag pins that are not American flag pins; the flag pins ones most-often-used for in-your-face political posturing and personal intimidation. You already know who got nasty about a Palestinian flag. All you need is a picture of a gathering of right wing morons and you'll recall immediately why ALL flag pins should be banned, which the writer already mislead you about.

  21. Miamiflyer Guest

    I always thought that the flag pins represented the languages a FA spoke. Silly me...
    Then my wife told me that that was the case when she worked for United in the 1990s. I guess, we are just old and not hip to the fact that the flags represent a cause today

    1. GUWonder Guest

      Haven’t you flown since 9/11? There was a very particular surge in flag pins for years thereafter. Also, Delta is fine with US flag pins. How about those “distress” darkened US flags that seem popular with the January 6th insurrectionist supporters and the upside down US flag that seems popular with the Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas families? There are MAGA airline employees — just look at the DL “social media” contact person...

      Haven’t you flown since 9/11? There was a very particular surge in flag pins for years thereafter. Also, Delta is fine with US flag pins. How about those “distress” darkened US flags that seem popular with the January 6th insurrectionist supporters and the upside down US flag that seems popular with the Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas families? There are MAGA airline employees — just look at the DL “social media” contact person that played up anti-Palestinian/anti-Arab racism and who DL had to sideline because of that part of this controversy created by the neo-PC crowd.

  22. David Guest

    Yes, I agree with DL. Most people really do not understand the conflict between Hamas and Israel and even if the did they should be questioning why were 1,500 innocent Israeli's tortured slaughtered while enjoying themselves at a peaceful outdoor festival. Understand that October 7th holds a significance for the attack. Good for for DL to put a cap on the woke.

  23. Gary Guest

    Patriotism is in the heart and mind, not a label pin, shoulder patch or even a flag. In the situations where someone wears a symbol of the nationality, it is a statement of "Us versus Them".

    1. won'tflyperiod Guest

      Thank you! Gary!! Like the secret hand signal to see if you hate ******* before you can be allowed in. It's used exactly that way in the US House and Senate, even today.

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  25. StevieMIA Guest

    Transport companies should stay out of politics and conflicts no matter what, this is the way to go, the US doesn't need more poralization on these defining and challenging times.

    1. GUWonder Guest

      Airlines are neck deep in politics in the US. It’s why airlines have well-heeled lobbyists and why the airlines cozy up to government officials in various ways.

  26. iamhere Guest

    I completely agree with this decision whether because of the safety of the employees or to avoid political issues and differences. It is better to just go neutral.

    1. StevieMIA Guest

      This should be the way to go for all companies, a rainbow livery or logo should be more than enough. Companies should focus on service, differentiation towards customers not their employees, I'm all up for LGBT rights and inclusion but the pride thing has gone too far in the US and has been completely distorted, the current landscape doesn't help. People don't need to center everything about sexuality, corporations and companies shouldn't either.

  27. Julie Guest

    Tim Dunn right now:
    Omg. Delta hates conservative Christians and liberal Muslims. How do I deal with this when delta just announced they want to be paid by Saudi Arabia to fly to Riyadh to do nothing more than be a marketing gimmick for a murderous MBS regime bent on killing journalists

    But he’ll find a way ;)
    We know he will ;)

  28. GUWonder Guest

    The most pro-Israeli thing that there is is to insist that Israel finds itself with a sovereign and sustainable Palestinian state across all the area of Gaza and the West Bank so that Israel can remain a Jewish majority state and stop putting a target on the back of Israelis by denying any and all legitimate national aspirations of a large Palestinian minority under Israeli domination. Otherwise Israel remains in this pickle of its choosing:...

    The most pro-Israeli thing that there is is to insist that Israel finds itself with a sovereign and sustainable Palestinian state across all the area of Gaza and the West Bank so that Israel can remain a Jewish majority state and stop putting a target on the back of Israelis by denying any and all legitimate national aspirations of a large Palestinian minority under Israeli domination. Otherwise Israel remains in this pickle of its choosing: choose to be an apartheid state with racist policies against Muslims and Christians in its midst or choose to barbarically ethnically cleanse the territories under its control/occupation and bury the head in the sand and hope that none of this comes back to bite Israel when WMDs become ever more widespread and even “democratized” to the extent that Israeli security ends up being to WMDs what the IDF was to Hamas on October 7th, 2023 — circumvented, and barbarically so — but then it could be an existential threat to Israel in the way that Hamas has never been to Israel. We all must hope it never comes to that, and the way for that hope to be realized is for there to be a unitary sovereign Palestinian state accepted by Israel that accepts Israel under the pre-68 boundaries.

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  29. dee Guest

    Glad Delta dealt with the flag issue..USA ==USA

  30. Pete Guest

    There's lots of pointless bleating going on in these comments, but the bottom line is that Delta can enforce any uniform restriction they like. The First Amendment prevents the government from restricting free speech. Your employer, social media platforms, even your golf club, can set policies to restrict political expression whenever and however they like. If you're unhappy, then go work elsewhere.

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  31. Hugh Mann Guest

    I think this is perfectly fine and valid response, and in fact, should have been the official position all along. Good job, Delta.

  32. ernestnywang Gold

    @Lucky, you wrote, "Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry." I recognize some people may be uncomfortable and angry seeing the Palestinian flag, but some people would likewise be angry seeing the Republic of China ("Taiwan") flag or the rainbow flag. Would you make the same comment if this were the case?

    You also said, "Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear 'any clothing that...

    @Lucky, you wrote, "Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry." I recognize some people may be uncomfortable and angry seeing the Palestinian flag, but some people would likewise be angry seeing the Republic of China ("Taiwan") flag or the rainbow flag. Would you make the same comment if this were the case?

    You also said, "Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear 'any clothing that conveys a message or advocates a position or cause other than Delta-sponsored programs or initiatives.'" So, how does wearing a Palestinian flag convey a message or advocate a position or cause? A Palestinian flag does not even mean Palestine is an independent country by itself, or would you say everyone wearing a flag (no matter which flag) is conveying a message or advocating a position or cause?

    PS: I make this comment as a gay Taiwanese person myself.

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  33. Vernon C Guest

    Curious, would you say the same thing of a flight attendant wearing an Israeli flag out of sympathy and compassion for the hostages?

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  34. BenjaminGuttery Diamond

    This is why we can't have nice things is EXACTLY what is happening here. Some employees have abused this perk of personalization and now all must lose it.

    1. Tim Dunn Diamond

      thank you!

      and to the question about Israeli flags, NO FLAG EXCEPT THE US FLAG is pretty clear.

      Emirates did the same thing over Taiwan so let's quit acting like DL is breaking ground in requiring uniformity for how its employees look - what a concept!

  35. Vernon C Guest

    So much for reading travel blogs to escape toxic political vitriol.

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  36. Bernardo Ng Guest

    I fail to see what's wrong about supporting the people of Palestine and wearing the pin of the Palestinian flag. is not antisemitic, anti-Zionist, or racist, nothing. it's simple human compassion and sympathy.

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  37. Engel Gold

    Since flight attendants like to remind us they are primarily there for out safety, then they should not wear anything that might cause even one passenger on the plane to become agitated, which could lead to an unsafe situation onboard.

    1. Eskimo Guest

      Nah, they're there for their own safety.

      So many diversions and offload because they feel threatened by a passenger, sometime a junkie with tickling feathers.

  38. Samo Guest

    Delta of course had a choice here, they could've simply just ban the terrorist flag and allow all others. It's not that hard and happens at many events for example.

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  39. Steve Guest

    I think this is fair. It would be deeply upsetting to me to see countries where human rights are violated regularly (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Eretria, Sudan, UAE, Iran, China, Turkey) endorsed by a FA. It's better to have a prophylactic solution, than to have instances where customers may be unnecessarily upset by what appears to be a promotion of a state that has caused many harm.

    1. Sisyphus Guest

      If that were the case then the US flag would be the first to be banned.

  40. Eskimo Guest

    Surprised nobody brought it up yet.

    What about the rainbow flags.
    Delta just sponsored a rainbow flag parade few weeks ago.

    So for Delta, is rainbow flag a yes or no.

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  41. derek Guest

    Delta should allow all country pins if the flight attendant speaks the language. Speak Palestinian Arabic and you can wear the pin. Don't speak it and you are banned from wearing the pin.

    1. Bernardo Ng Guest

      Or just allow pins from countries where delta flies to.

  42. Stuart Guest

    As a Jew, I would not want to see a flight attendant wearing a flag of Israel. I do not think taking sides of the conflict should be displayed in the workplace.

    1. John Smith Guest

      What about on El Al?

  43. Phil_S Gold

    To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel.

    Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the...

    To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel.

    Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the air. What would you do?”

    Or if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Ukrainian flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Neo-Nazi Azov badges in the air. What would you do?”

    In the first instance, its almost certain the tweet would be met with an uproar of accusations of antisemitism, while the second would be completely ignored.

    Let’s be honest, it’s not rocket science. The tweet went viral because dehumanizing Palestinians has become normalized. There is absolutely nothing terrifying about wearing a flag pin of Palestine. In the wake of Israel's sadist war of revenge and extermination on Gaza, accounts like these are what we should be afraid of, as they conflate Palestine with terror and weaponize claims of prejudice and antisemitism to dehumanize and vilify an entire group of people. This is, in itself, abject bigotry and blatant racism. At some point, it's going to backfire in a spectacular way... Free Palestine y’all

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  44. Simon Guest

    For those who disagree with Delta's decision to ban flag pins, what if it were the flag of North Korea? What about the pre-1994 flag of South Africa? Tsar Alexander II's Flag of the Russian Empire?

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  45. NS Diamond

    Aside from whether is this right or not, I'd say that this decision was something they had to make. Better avoid something while you can, than not doing anything until something happens and a stupid drama break out.

  46. Icarus Guest

    Good. US airline crew often have all different pins in addition to looking shoddy and unkempt. If one colleague wears a Palestinian flag what if another wears the Israeli one

    1. Ultimate AF Guest

      Exactly. It’s not TGI Fridays, it’s a premium airline. Nothing should be added that wasn’t designated as part of a uniform.

  47. Andy Diamond

    I find flags useful if they indicate the command of a different language. In my experience, the number of Delta flight attentendants speaking languages other than English is the lowest of the big three. So it would be even more useful to have that information visible.

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  48. John Guest

    Seems very reasonable. Sorry if this offends the pro-Hamas crowd.

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  49. Airfarer Diamond

    I support this ban. Being employed does not entiitle you to free speech. Put the flag back on when you are out of uniform.

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  50. peterjayagopal Guest

    Next they will be wearing Swasthikas.Interesting MOST of protest is from people of Muslim faith and others who forget that HAMAS started it.

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  51. Julia Guest

    So basically via it's post, Delta shows that is it as racist as that idiot "terrified" person who posted the comment?

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  52. Eskimo Guest

    You can thank the thought labeler and the radical muscle meat for spreading the incident.

  53. James Guest

    China bullies airlines into not displaying Taiwanese flags, an otherwise perfectly normal behaviour.

    Unspeakable influence bullies airline into not displaying another country flag - and “this is why we can’t have nice things?”.

    Bizarre.

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  55. Tim Dunn Diamond

    Adam is right.
    Gary carried the story yesterday but Ben's assessment is certainly accurate "this is why we can't have nice things" - and Ben notes that even Emirates had to ditch the whole practice of wearing flags because of Taiwan.

    Delta, like AA and UA and every other US flag carrier, gets its license to operate from the US government which negotiates its right to fly outside of the US (and inside as...

    Adam is right.
    Gary carried the story yesterday but Ben's assessment is certainly accurate "this is why we can't have nice things" - and Ben notes that even Emirates had to ditch the whole practice of wearing flags because of Taiwan.

    Delta, like AA and UA and every other US flag carrier, gets its license to operate from the US government which negotiates its right to fly outside of the US (and inside as well, flag or no flag) from the US government. If any flag is worn, it should be the US flag.
    But let's be clear that no one is required to wear ANY FLAG.
    They just can't wear any flag other than the US flag.

    Because of the actions of a few, no one can have nice things.

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  56. Deb Smith Guest

    Yes it was the Palestinian Liberation Organization who hijacked planes. I don’t think is the passengers who are the reason “we can’t have nice things”

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  57. Adam Guest

    Here before the comment section becomes an official shit show again....

  58. Morgan Guest

    I’m super confused… on one hand Delta donates to hard right congresspeople who refused to certify the 2020 election… and on the other hand they go and do snowflake actions like this… what are you Delta??

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Phil_S Gold

To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel. Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the air. What would you do?” Or if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Ukrainian flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Neo-Nazi Azov badges in the air. What would you do?” In the first instance, its almost certain the tweet would be met with an uproar of accusations of antisemitism, while the second would be completely ignored. Let’s be honest, it’s not rocket science. The tweet went viral because dehumanizing Palestinians has become normalized. There is absolutely nothing terrifying about wearing a flag pin of Palestine. In the wake of Israel's sadist war of revenge and extermination on Gaza, accounts like these are what we should be afraid of, as they conflate Palestine with terror and weaponize claims of prejudice and antisemitism to dehumanize and vilify an entire group of people. This is, in itself, abject bigotry and blatant racism. At some point, it's going to backfire in a spectacular way... Free Palestine y’all

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Eve Guest

Completely true. The failure of people, mostly Americans, mixing up Palestinian cause and Hamas is ridiculous. Besides this conflict will never resolve until there is path to peace and eventual recognition of Palestinian statehood. It is just kicking down the barrel for something worse. There is also a sad reality where how some people have started using the horrors of holocaust as some sort of a shield against the injustice they are doing. Trying to find the best possible solution for both Israel and Palestinian is not being anti semitism.

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John Guest

Seems very reasonable. Sorry if this offends the pro-Hamas crowd.

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