Delta Air Lines is changing its uniform policy, eliminating what was a cool form of expression for frontline employees. If you ask me, unfortunately the airline really had no choice here.
I first wrote about this a few days ago, but wanted to provide an update, as this situation is now being used in an effort to get flight attendants at Delta to unionize, and I can’t help but find this to be a bad faith argument.
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Palestine flag issue causes Delta policy change
Historically, Delta employees have been allowed to wear flag pins, representing countries and nationalities of the world. While airline employees of course wear uniforms, it’s nice to give people some ability to express themselves, and it can even be a great conversation starter.
For example, many flight attendants who speak foreign languages might have a flag pin for a foreign country they speak the language of, which can be an easy way for non-English speaking passengers to identify them. Others might just have a connection to a certain culture, and it’s intended to be a good way for employees and passengers to connect.
Unfortunately in recent times, any positives from these flag pins have been outweighed by the negatives. There have been several viral incidents whereby Delta employees were spotted wearing Palestinian flags, and of course this caused an uproar online. This put Delta in a tricky position:
- Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry
- Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear “any clothing that conveys a message or advocates a position or cause other than Delta-sponsored programs or initiatives”
- Delta hasn’t explicitly told employees they couldn’t wear Palestinian flags, because as you’d expect, that wouldn’t go over well
So Delta is now addressing this issue by more broadly updating its flag pin policy. As of July 15, 2024, Delta is no longer allowing employees to wear any flag pins with their uniform, with the exception of the US flag. Here’s how Delta describes this decision:
We are taking this step to help ensure a safe, comfortable and welcoming environment for all. We are proud of our diverse base of employees and customers and the foundation of our brand, which is to connect the world and provide a premium experience.
Unfortunately I think this all fits into the “this is why we can’t have nice things” category, and I’m not sure Delta had another choice here, but to address it this way.
Back in the day, Emirates flight attendants used to wear flag pins representing their home country. It was such a fun aspect of the Emirates uniform, and highlighted how international the company’s flight attendants are. However, eventually China found out that Emirates was letting employees wear Taiwan flag pins, and then demanded that the airline immediately stop allowing that.
As you’d expect, Emirates couldn’t simply eliminate the Taiwan flag, so the airline just got rid of flag pins altogether.
“Terrified” Delta social media employee “counseled”
The biggest Delta social media story of the past week involves a Twitter/X post, where someone posted pictures of two Delta flight attendants wearing the Palestinian flag, and wrote the following:
Since 2001 we take our shoes off in every airport because a terrorist attack in US soil. Now imagine getting into a @Delta flight and seeing workers with Hamas badges in the air. What do you do?
The official Delta account responded as follows:
I hear you as I’d be terrified as well, personally. Our employees reflect our culture and we do not take it lightly when our policy is not being followed.
To me it seems likely that the Delta social media employee might just not have been paying attention with what was being shared (or took the comment, rather than the picture, at face value — that’s the Palestinian flag, not a “Hamas badge”), since surely that wasn’t Delta’s intended official response.
Delta has now taken action regarding this. First, the company “removed a mistakenly posted comment on X because it was not in line with our values and our mission to connect the world.” Not only that, but “the team member responsible for the post has been counseled and no longer supports Delta’s social channels.”
I mean, I’ll simply say that I don’t envy the job of airline social media employees. On a good day, they get to deal with angry people complaining about delayed flights, lost bags, etc. On a bad day, they get drawn into lose-lose conflicts.
Union uses flag pin situation for clout
Let me start by saying that I’m a generally pro-union guy, which is to say that I think workers should be able to unionize without intimidation, and that unions serve as an important balance to corporate greed.
Delta is the only major airline in the United States where flight attendants aren’t unionized. For the record, I think that’s great too — if they’re happy with their situation, kudos to all involved.
Of course there have long been efforts to convince flight attendants at Delta to unionize, and now the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) is using this flag pin controversy as a way to argue for unionization at the airline. The AFA is requesting that Delta issue a public apology, and backtrack on its new flag pin ban, once again allowing flight attendants to display all flags.
As the union explains:
Working Delta Flight Attendants have been subject to harassment after pictures taken without their consent were circulated on social media with false, inflammatory, and discriminatory allegations. Delta’s social media responses showed contempt for current employees, and the subsequent lack of public response and concern for the safety of all crew members is unacceptable. We are calling on Delta management to issue a public apology, strengthen protections for crew members, and address shortcomings in your corporate social media moderation strategy.
The union then makes the following demands:
The Delta AFA Steering Committee, the national representative body of Delta Flight Attendants organizing our union, demands the following:
- Public Apology: Delta leadership must publicly apologize to the targeted crew members, confirm that pins representing the flags of different nations are allowed per policy, and denounce the moderator’s response. Leadership must further issue an unambiguous statement from Delta explicitly stating all employees deserve a safe and harassment-free work environment.
- Protection for Crew Members: A public statement implementing the prohibition of non-consensual photography of crew members while on duty or in uniform.
- Social Media Moderation: Immediate action to address shortcomings in its corporate social media moderation strategy, ensuring proper handling of sensitive situations and upholding company values.
The union’s perspective here seems highly idealistic. Delta already bans photography of frontline employees without their consent. But the union wants employees to be able to wear Palestine flags, and to not be harassed publicly.
Like, I don’t disagree with the premise that we should have the right to express ourselves in a respectful way without fear of harassment. But, umm, I wouldn’t exactly say that reflects the reality of the discourse in this country at the moment.
Do you think some random person on Twitter/X who is calling a Palestinian flag a “Hamas badge” is simply going to not “expose” people online because it violates Delta’s policy, when they have strongly held beliefs about it?
Bottom line
Delta is updating its employee uniform policy. As of July 15, 2024, Delta employees can no longer wear flag pins, aside from ones with the US flag. Unfortunately in recent times, all the discussion around Delta’s flag pins has centered around a small number of employees wearing Palestinian flags. This put Delta in a tough spot, and the airline chose to address this in the most “delicate” way possible, by just eliminating the flag pin concept altogether.
What do you make of Delta updating its flag pin policy?
If this was an Israel flag that was banned , Ben would be crying about antisemitisn. But anti Palestinian is ok!! Doesn't matter that thousands of women and children are being killed by genocide there.
Curious does this apply to pride flag pins also?
If it did, we would never hear the end of it from Ben!!!
Free Palestine...from Hamas. Yes, the so-called "palestinian flag" is 100% equal with a Hamas badge. Hamas is the legally elected government of Palestine, supported by over 90% of the population. This is exactly the same thing.
@ Ben-you mention generally you’re pro union to help fight against corporate greed.
How do you feel about unsustainable demands of unions and union greed?
If you are a Delta employee and do not like the flag rules then quit and find another job. I completely agree with Delta's flag policy. I think it saves people's uneducated assumptions and avoids political issues as in the examples you presented and others.
Front line employees in any company are there to work, not to make support statements of any kind. Support your company by providing superior service not political or social support statements.
This is such a (rare) bad take here Ben.
I’m very disappointed you see to have gone to great lengths to appear reasonable when defending a completely unreasonable view.
Palestine is not Hamas.
Palestine is a nation that is suffering from extreme cruelty, suffering, famine, death, terrorism, poverty and genocide. From both Hamas and israel.
Denouncing genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today - should not be...
This is such a (rare) bad take here Ben.
I’m very disappointed you see to have gone to great lengths to appear reasonable when defending a completely unreasonable view.
Palestine is not Hamas.
Palestine is a nation that is suffering from extreme cruelty, suffering, famine, death, terrorism, poverty and genocide. From both Hamas and israel.
Denouncing genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today - should not be a controversial stance at all. Less still should it be out of the ordinary a union representing a group of people that agree with that reasonable and common view.
Bowing to no doubt some form of pro-israel pressure isn’t going to end well and has sadly made me see your blog in a new light.
It lacks both any nuance or standing up for what’s right.
Ben, please: you can do better!!
> genocide and the worst example of human suffering on the planet today
This sounds like a textbook example of lacking any nuance.
High collateral damage does not imply genocide. Hamas could surrender and this war would be over tomorrow.
The people of Palestine support Hamas. Never forget, they were the ones who helped Hamas overthrow the Palestinian Authority, murder their leaders or force them into exile, and then kept Hamas in power. So, in a very real sense Palestine is Hamas and Hamas is Palestine. saying they're not the same is a convenient foil to try to disconflate the two. After all, when was the last time you saw the innocent people of Palestine...
The people of Palestine support Hamas. Never forget, they were the ones who helped Hamas overthrow the Palestinian Authority, murder their leaders or force them into exile, and then kept Hamas in power. So, in a very real sense Palestine is Hamas and Hamas is Palestine. saying they're not the same is a convenient foil to try to disconflate the two. After all, when was the last time you saw the innocent people of Palestine demonstrating against Hamas in the streets of Gaza? That's right, you didn't. Why not? Again, because they're one and the same.
@Lucky, I am really surprised and feel your articles get unreasonably biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine, even though I think the vast majority of your other articles are fair enough. I have already made my previous comment, so I will not repeat that part, but the rationale you put in your summary of this update again baffles me.
I am actually fine if DL decides that the US flag is the only...
@Lucky, I am really surprised and feel your articles get unreasonably biased when it comes to Israel and Palestine, even though I think the vast majority of your other articles are fair enough. I have already made my previous comment, so I will not repeat that part, but the rationale you put in your summary of this update again baffles me.
I am actually fine if DL decides that the US flag is the only flag flight attendants can wear in the future. The policy is itself reasonable, as DL is a US airline. However, you seem to imply that wearing a Palestanian flag does not "[reflect] the reality of the discourse in this country [the US] at the moment." What exactly is the reality of the discourse in your opinion?
I also agree having a policy prohibiting people posting flight attendants' photo online without consent would not stop someone calling a Palestinian flag a Hamas badge from exposing people online. Nevertheless, should there not be a policy just because someone will certainly violate it?
I would really like to kindly ask you to review your rationale and see if you would still consider what you said to be reasonable if Palestine is not involved.
No American flags either, and none of those tacky ones with eagles. American jingoism is awful.
Id love to see the reaction of these flight attendants ad some passengers if people wore Israeli Flag pins....
#FoodForThought
I would probably pull a Delta if I were you and eliminate the comments completely from this article. Really depressing to see that a community of travel lovers sink down to this.
That would be the equivalent of napalming Ben’s engagement harvest.
He shudders at the thought.
Good lord! Just do your job and be quiet. No one cares about your beliefs. Why is this so difficult????
Because Ben presumably needs to be write an article and wants to be seen to be taking a stance on this?
Interesting question to ask the person who took this picture too right?
Good lord! Just take your seat and be quiet. No one cares about your beliefs. Why is this so difficult????
Keeping politics out of this comment - how are airline passengers supposed to know which FA's speak their language now ?
Does Delta develop its own signage:
"I speak Espanol", I speak German
You can start by speaking the language of that airlines' base.
Try Espanol on Iberia.
German on Lufthansa.
Thai on Thai.
Japanese on Japan Airlines.
English on British Airways.
Maori on Air New Zealand.
So try English on Delta.
I think you mean español?
I apologize for my comments that are off topic (along with others).
But this question is threatening world peace.
There is no country called Palestine - just a terrorist organization
For at least 3500 years Jews have inhabited the land now called Israel.
Around 660 AD a terrorist called M subjugated the Saudi peninsula with a peaceful offer to all the small villages - convert to Islam or die. (Subsequently he invaded and conquered most of southern Europe with the same message and the invaders were not thrown out until the mid 14th...
There is no country called Palestine - just a terrorist organization
For at least 3500 years Jews have inhabited the land now called Israel.
Around 660 AD a terrorist called M subjugated the Saudi peninsula with a peaceful offer to all the small villages - convert to Islam or die. (Subsequently he invaded and conquered most of southern Europe with the same message and the invaders were not thrown out until the mid 14th century).
Yet some claim that the Jewish people are colonizers and, typical of their religion, want Israeli's to convert or die. (Really just don't want them to convert). Israel chooses to exist.
Goebbels said it well - if you tell the lie often enough even you will begin to believe it.
Don't forget 9/11. After Israel you are next.
Ok, Goebbels. Keep cranking out the propaganda.
Wear a pin if you speak the language. Otherwise, leave it at home.
Delta is an American carrier, with primarily domestic flights, American passengers, American flight attendants and American pilots. They are also the only major carrier to NOT have a plane flown into the WTC. 9/10 times, if a Delta flight attendant is wearing a flag pin its going to be an American Flag, because after all, "9/11 Never Forget." Delta forgot.
Your opinion not withstanding, let’s discuss the facts. There is no Palestine and there never was. Sure, throughout history there has been some country recognition but not globally. The people in Gaza elected a known terrorist organization - Hamas to represent their government. Then, as terrorists often do when they seize control, they eliminated elections. Next they declared war on Israel by crossing the border illegally to rape, pillage, burn, and kidnap Israeli victims. What...
Your opinion not withstanding, let’s discuss the facts. There is no Palestine and there never was. Sure, throughout history there has been some country recognition but not globally. The people in Gaza elected a known terrorist organization - Hamas to represent their government. Then, as terrorists often do when they seize control, they eliminated elections. Next they declared war on Israel by crossing the border illegally to rape, pillage, burn, and kidnap Israeli victims. What EXACTLY did you expect Israel’s response to be? What would the US response be if the same thing happened here? Well, after 9/11 we invaded two countries and killed tens of thousands of people and replaced their governments. Israel is doing the same. I don’t want to se ANY pins on DL uniforms other than the US Flag.
Agree!
The funniest part of all of this is how many LGBTQ people support "Palestine" - There's zero chance you make it out of Gaza alive after declaring you are a homosexual.
This is an orchestrated Marxist movement rolling black, female, hispanic, LGBTQ, etc into one camp. Just look at origins of BLM - there's no actual benefit to blacks - only mansions for the founders - just like any general secretary of USSR.
Wake up people!.
The two of you said it better than I could. Good to know that there is still some sanity left in the world.
Whoever wrote the headline was seriously dishonest!! Delta NEVER banned flag pins; they banned flag pins that are not American flag pins; the flag pins ones most-often-used for in-your-face political posturing and personal intimidation. You already know who got nasty about a Palestinian flag. All you need is a picture of a gathering of right wing morons and you'll recall immediately why ALL flag pins should be banned, which the writer already mislead you about.
I always thought that the flag pins represented the languages a FA spoke. Silly me...
Then my wife told me that that was the case when she worked for United in the 1990s. I guess, we are just old and not hip to the fact that the flags represent a cause today
Haven’t you flown since 9/11? There was a very particular surge in flag pins for years thereafter. Also, Delta is fine with US flag pins. How about those “distress” darkened US flags that seem popular with the January 6th insurrectionist supporters and the upside down US flag that seems popular with the Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas families? There are MAGA airline employees — just look at the DL “social media” contact person...
Haven’t you flown since 9/11? There was a very particular surge in flag pins for years thereafter. Also, Delta is fine with US flag pins. How about those “distress” darkened US flags that seem popular with the January 6th insurrectionist supporters and the upside down US flag that seems popular with the Justice Samuel Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas families? There are MAGA airline employees — just look at the DL “social media” contact person that played up anti-Palestinian/anti-Arab racism and who DL had to sideline because of that part of this controversy created by the neo-PC crowd.
Yes, I agree with DL. Most people really do not understand the conflict between Hamas and Israel and even if the did they should be questioning why were 1,500 innocent Israeli's tortured slaughtered while enjoying themselves at a peaceful outdoor festival. Understand that October 7th holds a significance for the attack. Good for for DL to put a cap on the woke.
Patriotism is in the heart and mind, not a label pin, shoulder patch or even a flag. In the situations where someone wears a symbol of the nationality, it is a statement of "Us versus Them".
Thank you! Gary!! Like the secret hand signal to see if you hate ******* before you can be allowed in. It's used exactly that way in the US House and Senate, even today.
9/11. Delta Forgot.
Wearing a Palestinian flag has nothing to do with 9/11.
You're right - a "Palestinian" flag supports Iran while 9/11 was financed by saudis
its hard to keep the terrorists straight
Yes, I agree with DL. Most people really do not understand the conflict between Hamas and Israel and even if the did they should be questioning why were 1,500 innocent Israeli's tortured slaughtered while enjoying themselves at a peaceful outdoor festival. Understand that October 7th holds a significance for the attack. Good for for DL to put a cap on the woke.
what the heck did bridarshy just say?
Delta is an American carrier, with primarily domestic flights, American passengers, American flight attendants and American pilots. They are also the only major carrier to NOT have a plane flown into the WTC. 9/10 times, if a Delta flight attendant is wearing a flag pin its going to be an American Flag, because after all, "9/11 Never Forget." Well, Delta forgot.
Transport companies should stay out of politics and conflicts no matter what, this is the way to go, the US doesn't need more poralization on these defining and challenging times.
Airlines are neck deep in politics in the US. It’s why airlines have well-heeled lobbyists and why the airlines cozy up to government officials in various ways.
I completely agree with this decision whether because of the safety of the employees or to avoid political issues and differences. It is better to just go neutral.
This should be the way to go for all companies, a rainbow livery or logo should be more than enough. Companies should focus on service, differentiation towards customers not their employees, I'm all up for LGBT rights and inclusion but the pride thing has gone too far in the US and has been completely distorted, the current landscape doesn't help. People don't need to center everything about sexuality, corporations and companies shouldn't either.
Tim Dunn right now:
Omg. Delta hates conservative Christians and liberal Muslims. How do I deal with this when delta just announced they want to be paid by Saudi Arabia to fly to Riyadh to do nothing more than be a marketing gimmick for a murderous MBS regime bent on killing journalists
But he’ll find a way ;)
We know he will ;)
The most pro-Israeli thing that there is is to insist that Israel finds itself with a sovereign and sustainable Palestinian state across all the area of Gaza and the West Bank so that Israel can remain a Jewish majority state and stop putting a target on the back of Israelis by denying any and all legitimate national aspirations of a large Palestinian minority under Israeli domination. Otherwise Israel remains in this pickle of its choosing:...
The most pro-Israeli thing that there is is to insist that Israel finds itself with a sovereign and sustainable Palestinian state across all the area of Gaza and the West Bank so that Israel can remain a Jewish majority state and stop putting a target on the back of Israelis by denying any and all legitimate national aspirations of a large Palestinian minority under Israeli domination. Otherwise Israel remains in this pickle of its choosing: choose to be an apartheid state with racist policies against Muslims and Christians in its midst or choose to barbarically ethnically cleanse the territories under its control/occupation and bury the head in the sand and hope that none of this comes back to bite Israel when WMDs become ever more widespread and even “democratized” to the extent that Israeli security ends up being to WMDs what the IDF was to Hamas on October 7th, 2023 — circumvented, and barbarically so — but then it could be an existential threat to Israel in the way that Hamas has never been to Israel. We all must hope it never comes to that, and the way for that hope to be realized is for there to be a unitary sovereign Palestinian state accepted by Israel that accepts Israel under the pre-68 boundaries.
Israel has supported the two state solution throughout its history and did at various points of the history offered to give up its territory, removed its citizens from whatever "Palestine" is, and even financed development of Gaza (with the funds later being used to bomb Israel in return). Every single proposal or goodwill gesture has been denied by the terrorist in power, because their only goal - quite openly stated in their manifesto - is to kill Jews.
Wrong. Even Israeli publications dispute your assertion due to Netanyahu's political agenda. Please get educated, or don't and stay quiet on topics for which you're ignorant.
Israel does not support a two-state solution whereby a Jewish-majority state of Israel is living in peace alongside a sovereign Palestinian-majority state in Gaza and the West Bank. But the last fig leaves have fallen off the Likudnik game so that it’s just the willfully blind who are blind to the obscenity of pretending as if Israel has been sufficiently committed to a two-state solution while the reality has been that Israel’s actions in the...
Israel does not support a two-state solution whereby a Jewish-majority state of Israel is living in peace alongside a sovereign Palestinian-majority state in Gaza and the West Bank. But the last fig leaves have fallen off the Likudnik game so that it’s just the willfully blind who are blind to the obscenity of pretending as if Israel has been sufficiently committed to a two-state solution while the reality has been that Israel’s actions in the last 30 years speak to anything but an honest commitment to delivering on a two-state solution that gives Palestinians sovereignty over Gaza and the West Bank.
Earlier this week (on July 17th), the Knesset passed the resolution — 68-9 votes — altogether rejecting the establishment of a Palestinian state, even as part of a negotiated settlement with Israel. That says it all.
Glad Delta dealt with the flag issue..USA ==USA
There's lots of pointless bleating going on in these comments, but the bottom line is that Delta can enforce any uniform restriction they like. The First Amendment prevents the government from restricting free speech. Your employer, social media platforms, even your golf club, can set policies to restrict political expression whenever and however they like. If you're unhappy, then go work elsewhere.
thank you, Pete.
and, given that some people can't figure out that stating your opinion is not something your employer wants THEIR customers to hear, now no DL employees can wear any flag other than THE US FLAG - which is the same flag and no other that DL displays on its jets
Screaming by using all caps is just another thing that makes you a d**k.
Screaming by using all caps is just another thing that makes you a d**k.
If the airline tried to enforce a uniform restriction that prohibited religious accessories deemed a requirement of faith and made no reasonable effort to accommodate religious employees, the airline could find itself in trouble over illegal discrimination on the basis of an employee or an applicant’s religion.
I said political expression, not religious expression. Wearing a crucifix, turban, or hijab is religious expression, and wearing a flag pin is not.
Religious expression can also be political expression, and at core it probably all is political expression since so-called religious expressions are fundamentally expressions of solidarity with an ideology and/or community and signal affiliation/non-affiliation with another person/party for purposes of empowerment of some sort or another.
There are too many snowflakes when it comes to non-violent expressions of political and religious expression. And this situation with wanting to ban a national flag pin is neo-political-correctness run...
Religious expression can also be political expression, and at core it probably all is political expression since so-called religious expressions are fundamentally expressions of solidarity with an ideology and/or community and signal affiliation/non-affiliation with another person/party for purposes of empowerment of some sort or another.
There are too many snowflakes when it comes to non-violent expressions of political and religious expression. And this situation with wanting to ban a national flag pin is neo-political-correctness run amok and nothing but an attempt to try to get companies to “pick a side” or disappear concerns when it comes to the barbarity of the rogue Netanyahu regime.
It’s just a matter of time until these same neo-PC “Israel can do no wrong” types push to ban passengers from having such a national flag pin too or try to punish passengers for having such a national flag pin.
I think this is perfectly fine and valid response, and in fact, should have been the official position all along. Good job, Delta.
@Lucky, you wrote, "Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry." I recognize some people may be uncomfortable and angry seeing the Palestinian flag, but some people would likewise be angry seeing the Republic of China ("Taiwan") flag or the rainbow flag. Would you make the same comment if this were the case?
You also said, "Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear 'any clothing that...
@Lucky, you wrote, "Given how polarizing the conflict is, employees wearing Palestinian flags made some people uncomfortable and angry." I recognize some people may be uncomfortable and angry seeing the Palestinian flag, but some people would likewise be angry seeing the Republic of China ("Taiwan") flag or the rainbow flag. Would you make the same comment if this were the case?
You also said, "Delta’s policy has stated that employees shouldn’t wear 'any clothing that conveys a message or advocates a position or cause other than Delta-sponsored programs or initiatives.'" So, how does wearing a Palestinian flag convey a message or advocate a position or cause? A Palestinian flag does not even mean Palestine is an independent country by itself, or would you say everyone wearing a flag (no matter which flag) is conveying a message or advocating a position or cause?
PS: I make this comment as a gay Taiwanese person myself.
Well to be fair, Palestine isn't and never was a country. The 2 state solution has been proposed and debated for decades but neither side is willing to agree to the others demands so it's not going to happen, wearing a Palestinian flag is part of a fad that has mostly died off despite the conflict still ongoing, people just rally and back these things and then lose interest after a few months. So while...
Well to be fair, Palestine isn't and never was a country. The 2 state solution has been proposed and debated for decades but neither side is willing to agree to the others demands so it's not going to happen, wearing a Palestinian flag is part of a fad that has mostly died off despite the conflict still ongoing, people just rally and back these things and then lose interest after a few months. So while historically wearing the Palestine flag would have been normal with everyone else's flags they chose to wear it's being worn now as part of "cause". Not to mention the elected government of Palestine is continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve anyways.
"Palestine isn't and never was a country"
Not exactly true.
"Not to mention the elected government of Palestine is continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve anyways."
Well, the elected government of Israel has been continuing the occupation for decades thus being the ones who are really continuing the conflict and not looking for a peaceful resolve.
Gaza is a shithole. Given the beautiful oceanfront location, it should be an amazing tourist destination. There's a reason it's a shithole - it's their own incompetence and reliance on religion to govern.
The only islamic states with any power also have access to oil (Saudi and Iran). Some of the others have moderate dictators (UAE, Qatar, Jordan, etc) with tourism oriented economy..
all the others are 4th world shitholes. look at Pakistan which...
Gaza is a shithole. Given the beautiful oceanfront location, it should be an amazing tourist destination. There's a reason it's a shithole - it's their own incompetence and reliance on religion to govern.
The only islamic states with any power also have access to oil (Saudi and Iran). Some of the others have moderate dictators (UAE, Qatar, Jordan, etc) with tourism oriented economy..
all the others are 4th world shitholes. look at Pakistan which should be an amazing economy on par with India. it has the same people, brains and resources. Islam is its fundamental problem.
Which of those other countries you mentioned are under siege where an occupying force controls everything that gets in and gets out, down to the calorie? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza
Curious, would you say the same thing of a flight attendant wearing an Israeli flag out of sympathy and compassion for the hostages?
probably not...
Yeah, lets not forget the thousands of Palestinian hostages being held by Israel.
This is why we can't have nice things is EXACTLY what is happening here. Some employees have abused this perk of personalization and now all must lose it.
thank you!
and to the question about Israeli flags, NO FLAG EXCEPT THE US FLAG is pretty clear.
Emirates did the same thing over Taiwan so let's quit acting like DL is breaking ground in requiring uniformity for how its employees look - what a concept!
So much for reading travel blogs to escape toxic political vitriol.
Why whine? Nobody made you that promise.
Militant Hamas apologists have no place spreading their propaganda on an airline blog.
Neither do apologists for the genocidal Israel occupying government.
Define genocide please...
See what is happening in Gaza and the occupied West Bank to see a modern gay genocide in action. Over 180,000 people killed, homes being razed, farms being burned down, homes being demolished, villages being stolen...
well that's a new high and not accepted number for Gaza (its 5x what the Gaza ministry of heath reports). But its closer what the US killed in Iraq, or Saudi Arabia in Yemen, etc
I fail to see what's wrong about supporting the people of Palestine and wearing the pin of the Palestinian flag. is not antisemitic, anti-Zionist, or racist, nothing. it's simple human compassion and sympathy.
Curious, would you say the same thing of a flight attendant wearing an Israeli flag out of sympathy and compassion for the hostages?
@Vernon C
Probably about as much sympathy and compassion you would express for the Palestinian hostages...
The who? Are you trying to say that captured Hamas terrorists are hostages? Even the leftist left wing could not possibly claim that!
I would because poeple need to learn to separate the israeli people from the israeli government and military. Likewise people need to also learn to separate Hamas and the Palestinian people. I support a two-state solution and the people living in those states equally.
Thanks for telling us you're not paying attention to the issue. Such a naive take on it.
You need to remember that people of Palestine are humans too and they deserve to leave in peace as much as the Israeli people. Also stop pretending like this problem started on October 6th.
Wow. You got the date wrong.
You have excactly highlighted the point why flags should not be wear, it is not for a showcase of sympath/political orientation.
Since flight attendants like to remind us they are primarily there for out safety, then they should not wear anything that might cause even one passenger on the plane to become agitated, which could lead to an unsafe situation onboard.
Nah, they're there for their own safety.
So many diversions and offload because they feel threatened by a passenger, sometime a junkie with tickling feathers.
Delta of course had a choice here, they could've simply just ban the terrorist flag and allow all others. It's not that hard and happens at many events for example.
We drop bombs on innocent people all the time and kill them, what do we call ourselves then?
I don't drop bombs on anyone, and my country barely has a functional army. What's your point?
You don't, Samo, but your taxes do! Got it?
I think this is fair. It would be deeply upsetting to me to see countries where human rights are violated regularly (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Eretria, Sudan, UAE, Iran, China, Turkey) endorsed by a FA. It's better to have a prophylactic solution, than to have instances where customers may be unnecessarily upset by what appears to be a promotion of a state that has caused many harm.
If that were the case then the US flag would be the first to be banned.
Surprised nobody brought it up yet.
What about the rainbow flags.
Delta just sponsored a rainbow flag parade few weeks ago.
So for Delta, is rainbow flag a yes or no.
Oh! we must know if you support gay people.
Guessing it’s ok because not a country flag
"Pride" has long since ceased being a gay lib thing, and become event which many LGB people feel disconnected from and embarrassed by as they watch a parade of BDSM acolytes, crawling "pups" on leashes, and heterosexual autogynephiles parade up and down the street. LGB people are no longer welcome at the event they pioneered - unless, of course, they swear fealty to the new orthodoxy.
Delta should allow all country pins if the flight attendant speaks the language. Speak Palestinian Arabic and you can wear the pin. Don't speak it and you are banned from wearing the pin.
Or just allow pins from countries where delta flies to.
This PC generarion is absurd.
As a Jew, I would not want to see a flight attendant wearing a flag of Israel. I do not think taking sides of the conflict should be displayed in the workplace.
What about on El Al?
To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel.
Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the...
To start with, there is no way you can conflate the flag of Palestine with the “badge” of Khamas. This was a deliberate and sinister post, with the person behind it being clearly pro-Israel.
Now just imagine the reverse: if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Israeli flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Apartheid badges in the air. What would you do?”
Or if one of the flight attendants was wearing a pin of the Ukrainian flag, and went on Twitter posting: “Since 2001……Now imagine getting into a Delta flight and seeing workers with Neo-Nazi Azov badges in the air. What would you do?”
In the first instance, its almost certain the tweet would be met with an uproar of accusations of antisemitism, while the second would be completely ignored.
Let’s be honest, it’s not rocket science. The tweet went viral because dehumanizing Palestinians has become normalized. There is absolutely nothing terrifying about wearing a flag pin of Palestine. In the wake of Israel's sadist war of revenge and extermination on Gaza, accounts like these are what we should be afraid of, as they conflate Palestine with terror and weaponize claims of prejudice and antisemitism to dehumanize and vilify an entire group of people. This is, in itself, abject bigotry and blatant racism. At some point, it's going to backfire in a spectacular way... Free Palestine y’all
Completely true. The failure of people, mostly Americans, mixing up Palestinian cause and Hamas is ridiculous. Besides this conflict will never resolve until there is path to peace and eventual recognition of Palestinian statehood. It is just kicking down the barrel for something worse.
There is also a sad reality where how some people have started using the horrors of holocaust as some sort of a shield against the injustice they are doing. Trying...
Completely true. The failure of people, mostly Americans, mixing up Palestinian cause and Hamas is ridiculous. Besides this conflict will never resolve until there is path to peace and eventual recognition of Palestinian statehood. It is just kicking down the barrel for something worse.
There is also a sad reality where how some people have started using the horrors of holocaust as some sort of a shield against the injustice they are doing. Trying to find the best possible solution for both Israel and Palestinian is not being anti semitism.
The “Palestinian cause” is the Hamas cause— the destruction of the state of Israel, and the establishment of a Palestinian state “from the river to the sea.” It is spelled out in black-and-white.
@Noa
That is pure BS. Conflating the Palestinian cause to Hamas is asinine and a way to de-legitimize and dehumanize the Palestinians and their right to live in an unoccupied country of their own.
Also what about Likud's own manifesto which states that "between the sea and the Jordan there will be only Israeli sovereignty"? Why is that rhyme ok in the world's eyes?
Completely false. What about the failure of people (mostly young, ignorant and misinformed) who conflate right-wing Netanyahu government policies with Judaism and Jewish people worldwide, who have nothing to do with this conflict? Anti-Semitism is real and it has exploded globally.
As for who wants peace, ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death...
Completely false. What about the failure of people (mostly young, ignorant and misinformed) who conflate right-wing Netanyahu government policies with Judaism and Jewish people worldwide, who have nothing to do with this conflict? Anti-Semitism is real and it has exploded globally.
As for who wants peace, ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death to Jewish people worldwide. It’s literally their manifesto.
Political statements, including flag pins have no place in any work environment. This is especially important when there is a power imbalance, like being stuck on a plane with a member of a flight crew that makes people uncomfortable for their displayed personal belief
@The Angry Empath
The irony of you pointing out people conflating right-wing Netanyahu government policies with Judaism and Jewish people worldwide while yourself conflating all Palestinians or people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians with Hamas is just sad.
As pointed out above, it is literally in Likud's manifesto for there to not be any two state solution, but you seem to be ok when Israel has that policy...
100% well reasoned and fair reasoned post.
No doubt it’ll be added to the forced definitions of antisemitism soon.
Shall you forget what happened on October 7th? This is a terrorist organization. They deserve everything that comes to them.
No workplace should allow the flag of ANY terrorist organization to be worn.
@Irithu if it didn’t get into your thick head, the Palestinian flag is not Hamas!!!!
@Eve - yes, peace is needed to end this.
If your truly for the Palestinian state, you’d support Israel in their destruction of Iranian proxies. Do you think Hamas has run Palestine well and treated the people well? The leaders are living in 5star hotels in Doha. They are finding hoards of humanitarian aid in the Hamas tunnels, the billions of $$ have been swindled by Hamas, taking away from Palestinians. Wake up.
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@Eve - yes, peace is needed to end this.
If your truly for the Palestinian state, you’d support Israel in their destruction of Iranian proxies. Do you think Hamas has run Palestine well and treated the people well? The leaders are living in 5star hotels in Doha. They are finding hoards of humanitarian aid in the Hamas tunnels, the billions of $$ have been swindled by Hamas, taking away from Palestinians. Wake up.
Re the Palestinian state. Who is going to run it peacefully? Who is going to guarantee security measures?
Bigger picture. Understand that Hamas is an Iranian proxy…a Russian, N Korean and Chinese ally. Without destroying the proxies and deterring the others, there will be no peace.
@Nick
Hamas doesn't run Palestine, it has been active only in Gaza.
They haven't found anything in the tunnels, just like they haven't found any evidence of Hamas in any of the hospitals, schools, mosques, and churches they have bombed in Gaza.
Hamas only exists because of Israel's occupation and it's methods of occupation.
A number of top Hamas people have been killed in Gaza as well. Not all live in fancy 5 star hotels.
Just like people in Russia, China and North Korea can't pick their govt., neither can those in Gaza pick their govt.
Eve, the people of Gaza elected Hamas, and Palestinians in general seem to support Hamas moreso than they do the PLO government of the West Bank. I believe this makes it reasonable for a passenger to conflate wearing the Palestinian flag with support for Hamas, though the passenger would be incorrect in some cases.
For practical purposes, I think Delta no good option here.
@Mark F that is such nonsense. Hamas is not Palestine, and Palestine isn't Hamas. Conflating wearing the Palestinian flag with support for Hamas is incorrect in ALL, not some, cases.
@Irithu S
Shall you forget everything that was happening before October 7th? Seems so. The IDF has slaughtered more Palestinians, confiscated land, demolished homes, etc, more than Hamas ever did.
The IDF is the military arm of a terrorist state.
A "terrorist state" that's kicking ass, and long may that continue.
Good to know you support genocide enabling terrorist states.
Terrorists support terrorists and wish that violence continues and disappears “the other”. Holds as much for the misanthropes who attacked Israel on October 7th as for the misanthropes laying siege on Gaza ever since. Putin’s war on Ukraine make Putin look like a generous philanthropist in comparison to Netanyahu and Netanyahu’s war on Gaza.
For those who disagree with Delta's decision to ban flag pins, what if it were the flag of North Korea? What about the pre-1994 flag of South Africa? Tsar Alexander II's Flag of the Russian Empire?
The counter argument - would Delta have bowed to pressure for the people disgusted with israeli flag pins? I doubt it..
Why do you doubt it?
Also, the counter argument implies that employees with opposing views might be just as likely to wear an Israeli flag pin. This ignores the obvious asymmetry of behavior (i.e. being an activist vs minding their own business), all the way up to the willingness/desire to martyr oneself for a cause.
Aside from whether is this right or not, I'd say that this decision was something they had to make. Better avoid something while you can, than not doing anything until something happens and a stupid drama break out.
Good. US airline crew often have all different pins in addition to looking shoddy and unkempt. If one colleague wears a Palestinian flag what if another wears the Israeli one
Exactly. It’s not TGI Fridays, it’s a premium airline. Nothing should be added that wasn’t designated as part of a uniform.
I find flags useful if they indicate the command of a different language. In my experience, the number of Delta flight attentendants speaking languages other than English is the lowest of the big three. So it would be even more useful to have that information visible.
Accor does this well. Most of their privately operated properties have employees name badges with the language spoken by them. For languages that are spoken in multiple countries, they usually use the flag of the country the property is in.
I remember Korean Air putting a flag of that flight attendant's home country on a non-Korean FA's name tag.
It would be nice to see other airlines employing this as well.
Seems very reasonable. Sorry if this offends the pro-Hamas crowd.
Just because you support Palestinian cause or show solidarity to the humanity crisis there does not mean you are pro Hamas. Your utter failure to recognize that is despicable and sad
I support Israeli actions to retaliate against Hamas, but I also support Palestinian plight and condone the insanely high civilian casualties being caused by Israel. That does not make me Pro Hamas. It makes me rational, John!
Just because you are comfortable with it, doesn’t mean other people are. No political statements, flags, or anything unauthorized for that matter should be worn by flight crews. it’s a premium airline, not a TGI Fridays.
Sorry Eve. Clinton and later Trump had signed two-state agreements with Arafat /(Rabin?) and lately others.
On return to "Palestine" the PLO tore up the agreements and refused to sign.
The Israeli's SIGNED so please don't pretend otherwise.
As a signal of good faith, Israel removed all settlers from Gaza in 2005. Hamas then went and destroyed all the factories, homes and farms left behind. Those rotten Israeli's.
There's no pro-Hamas crowd here. Maybe stop looking at everything with a partisanship-ish view.
Friendly reminder: Hamas was created by the Israeli Government.
Mason, you're one of the most biased anti-Israel commentators here, who has previously stated that Israelis deserve to be killed, and you continue to repeat the lie that Hamas was founded by Israel.
I support this ban. Being employed does not entiitle you to free speech. Put the flag back on when you are out of uniform.
@Airfarer
And you'd be mad if they've also banned employees from putting a pride flag. Typical Western hypocrite double standards.
Since when does the pride flag equate to the murder 1700 innocent Jews at a concert and a regime that supports terrorism, the use of its own citizens as human shields and actively advocates for the annihilation of an entire population of people/culture? Get your false equivalencies straight (pun intended). And for the record, I am a member of the LGBTQ community who believes that all flags should be banned on Delta flights (including the...
Since when does the pride flag equate to the murder 1700 innocent Jews at a concert and a regime that supports terrorism, the use of its own citizens as human shields and actively advocates for the annihilation of an entire population of people/culture? Get your false equivalencies straight (pun intended). And for the record, I am a member of the LGBTQ community who believes that all flags should be banned on Delta flights (including the pride flag) to ensure fairness across the board.
Well, thanks to what we learned about the Hannibal Directive, a good number of those 1700 Israelis were actually done by Israel's own government. Also, apparently worth more than the 180,000 Palestinians killed by Israel so far in Gaza? It seems to be ok when Israel advocates (and is committing) the annihilation of an entire population of people/culture...
Julia, you gotta get off whatever trash you've been reading online. That entire comment is "Bush did 9/11" and "Pizzagate" level of unhinged.
That's not even the flag of hamas you moron, it's used by the PA who have nothing to do with Hamas
Next they will be wearing Swasthikas.Interesting MOST of protest is from people of Muslim faith and others who forget that HAMAS started it.
I think the issues is not who started, it is the utter failure of Israel to recognize Palestinian statehood and the insane amounts of civilian casualties they are causing. Al Qaeda did 9/11, that did not lead USA and its coalitions to flatten Afghanistan and kill 37k people, more than 25k of which are civilians, in a period of 9 months.
Also you can see by the rhetoric of individuals in Israeli military who...
I think the issues is not who started, it is the utter failure of Israel to recognize Palestinian statehood and the insane amounts of civilian casualties they are causing. Al Qaeda did 9/11, that did not lead USA and its coalitions to flatten Afghanistan and kill 37k people, more than 25k of which are civilians, in a period of 9 months.
Also you can see by the rhetoric of individuals in Israeli military who also share that Israeli war in the region is not sustainable. It is a doom loop, you kill and do not resolve the situation, you perpetuate it to another day in future. Besides you have Netanyahu who is hellbent of prolonging this war and spreading it to other areas just for saving himself from corruption charges
Ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death to Jewish people worldwide. It’s literally their manifesto.
Political statements, including flag pins have no place in any work environment. This is especially important when there is a power imbalance, like being stuck on a plane with a member of a flight crew that makes people...
Ask any Hamas member or their Palestinian supporters what their ultimate goals are. It isn’t peace or a two state solution. It’s the destruction of Israel and death to Jewish people worldwide. It’s literally their manifesto.
Political statements, including flag pins have no place in any work environment. This is especially important when there is a power imbalance, like being stuck on a plane with a member of a flight crew that makes people uncomfortable for their displayed personal beliefs.
Ask any Likud member or their Zionist supports what their ultimate goals are. It isn't peace or a two state solution. It's the destruction of Palestine as an entity and it's people. It's literally in their manifesto.
@peterjayagopal
You seem to have forgotten about who started everything back in the days - the Jews.
The truthful history is telling you what is right. Don't expect to find one in the US though.
Ridiculous nonsense, Peter. The protests are from a mix of backgrounds and religions, including many Jews of all nationalities.
As for Khamahs starting it, history didn't begin on Oct 7th.
History also didn’t start in 1917, 1948, or 1967… just saying
Of course it didn't.
So basically via it's post, Delta shows that is it as racist as that idiot "terrified" person who posted the comment?
the conclusions you come to are truly breathtaking.
It is pretty obvious Delta pulled the person off of social media channels because they opened their mouth - which was why the whole notion of displaying flags other than of the US was implemented.
Because a very few can't keep their thoughts to themselves, everyone is punished and "nobody can have nice things"
How are they breathtaking? I realize you need to keep shilling Delta via Tim Dunn and other sock puppets, but still.
You can thank the thought labeler and the radical muscle meat for spreading the incident.
China bullies airlines into not displaying Taiwanese flags, an otherwise perfectly normal behaviour.
Unspeakable influence bullies airline into not displaying another country flag - and “this is why we can’t have nice things?”.
Bizarre.
Antisemites getting triggered in 3, 2...
In other news, criticism of Palm Springs now redefined as homophobic.
Wearing the Ukraine flag now anti-Russian.
Back in the real world, if you look at young people’s attitudes the tide is turning…
Wearing a Palestinian flag doesn't make you an antisemite...if anything, it seems to trigger the people who are racist towards Palestinians.
You might wanna know the real meaning of the word "anti-semite" before saying it out, no offence.
"Meaning of the word 'anti-semite'".
This might be the biggest nonsensical trope that Israel-hating people from that region say. "I can't be anti-semitic, I'm from Palestine or Lebanon. I'm semitic" knowing full-well what anti-semite means in the modern context.
Heads up. If you use phrases like "you may want to know what 'anti-semite' means", you're probably VERY VERY anti-semitic in the modern context of the usage.
@MaxPower okay, but is it my fault that some uneducated people changed the meaning of that word?
I don't use the word "Semite" to justify an anti-Jewish movement. In fact, what I meant was more like to "criticising Israel doesn't mean anti-Jewish".
Calm down, mate.
So basically Zionists have co-opted the word and taken it away from other Semitic people for their own exclusive use. Sounds right.
Adam is right.
Gary carried the story yesterday but Ben's assessment is certainly accurate "this is why we can't have nice things" - and Ben notes that even Emirates had to ditch the whole practice of wearing flags because of Taiwan.
Delta, like AA and UA and every other US flag carrier, gets its license to operate from the US government which negotiates its right to fly outside of the US (and inside as...
Adam is right.
Gary carried the story yesterday but Ben's assessment is certainly accurate "this is why we can't have nice things" - and Ben notes that even Emirates had to ditch the whole practice of wearing flags because of Taiwan.
Delta, like AA and UA and every other US flag carrier, gets its license to operate from the US government which negotiates its right to fly outside of the US (and inside as well, flag or no flag) from the US government. If any flag is worn, it should be the US flag.
But let's be clear that no one is required to wear ANY FLAG.
They just can't wear any flag other than the US flag.
Because of the actions of a few, no one can have nice things.
Tim, I would be extremely offended by a Delta employee wearing a US flag pin. Nothing like phony jingoistic patriotism to ruin the experience of flying the Singapore Airlines of America, complete with moldy chicken.
you clearly didn't read.
No Delta or any other US airline employee is required to wear ANY FLAG. They simply have to wear the required uniform items of which the US flag is not one of those required items.
ALL aviation authority in every part of the world is based on treaties which airlines obtain FROM THEIR GOVERNMENTS.
All aviation rights derive from the countries in which the airlines are based.
If...
you clearly didn't read.
No Delta or any other US airline employee is required to wear ANY FLAG. They simply have to wear the required uniform items of which the US flag is not one of those required items.
ALL aviation authority in every part of the world is based on treaties which airlines obtain FROM THEIR GOVERNMENTS.
All aviation rights derive from the countries in which the airlines are based.
If Delta ALLOWS any flag to be displayed by its employees, it is the US flag which DL displays on its aircraft just as Singapore displays the Singapore flag on its aircraft, Qatari flag on QR aircraft etc.
This isn't about Delta and what you think about the US flag or chicken is immaterial to this discussion.
If you can find a form of transborder transportation that doesn't involve a flag or national identity, go for it.
Even busses and boats display the national identity of the owner and operator of that vessel.
sounds like you will be walking across the Pacific if you don't want anything to do with national identity.
Not sure I see anything here which explains why Delta can’t allow people to wear different country’s pins?
Ben explained it well and shows the parallel with EK. Flags other than of the home country of your airline -not your home country if you are not a citizen of the country where the airline is headquartered - is distracting and divisive.
No Delta employee is required to wear any flag but if they wear a flag, it must be the US flag.
Not a hard concept to understand and yet there are and...
Ben explained it well and shows the parallel with EK. Flags other than of the home country of your airline -not your home country if you are not a citizen of the country where the airline is headquartered - is distracting and divisive.
No Delta employee is required to wear any flag but if they wear a flag, it must be the US flag.
Not a hard concept to understand and yet there are and will be those that argue because they can't accept basic facts or the rational interpretation of it.
I see why it’s simpler to only allow USA flags.
Not sure I see anything here which explains why Delta can’t allow people to wear different country’s pins?
@Max @yolo
“they go over the heads of most people.”
"you clearly didn't read"
Again, Tim. Read.
LOL, cookie dough anyone?
"This isn't about Delta"
This article is *literally* about Delta.
EVERYONE can see it is about Delta.
The point is that olives is triggered by the US flag so she can pick whatever airline wears a flag that doesn't trigger her but every airline has some national identity as so virtually all forms of transportation.
If she doesn't like national identity being displayed, then she needs to walk.
If she doesn't like the US, then she can figure out how to get transportation WITHIN the...
EVERYONE can see it is about Delta.
The point is that olives is triggered by the US flag so she can pick whatever airline wears a flag that doesn't trigger her but every airline has some national identity as so virtually all forms of transportation.
If she doesn't like national identity being displayed, then she needs to walk.
If she doesn't like the US, then she can figure out how to get transportation WITHIN the US by any means that doesn't show some form of identity to the US or one of its states.
It's not a hard concept to understand
"This isn't about Delta"
"EVERYONE can see it is about Delta."
Pick a lane, Timothy.
This will forever be iconic
Yes it was the Palestinian Liberation Organization who hijacked planes. I don’t think is the passengers who are the reason “we can’t have nice things”
They learned their tactics from groups like the Irgun and Haganah.
Surely not all, as Irgun and Hagana never hijacked planes.
Anyway, FAs shouldn't war Irgun pins as well.
They learned enough from them, I guess.
Also the flag in question is originally the PLO flag, and was used by PLO when they were in the plane hijacking business.
Years later the Palestinian Authority was formed and the PLO flag became the Palestinian flag.
Stop staying stupid things, the flag was being used since the 1920s, long before the PLO was ever formed.
The flag actually existed decades before the creation of the PLO. The flag was actually around decades before the state of Israel was created.
Here before the comment section becomes an official shit show again....
Bwah hah hah
I’m super confused… on one hand Delta donates to hard right congresspeople who refused to certify the 2020 election… and on the other hand they go and do snowflake actions like this… what are you Delta??
Business as usual, they must do everything like a chameleon, even if it is very hypocritical or ironic, to make Delta the “most profitable airline in the world”, as the DL fanboy in the comment sections would say
You’re looking good, girl
How you doin’?
You really have trouble understanding this?
It's not complicated: they play both sides, and thus come out the overall winner, no matter who's in power at a given time. Every Fortune-500 in the country operates this way.
It’s “simply good business” Delta being Delta: calculating what is good for Delta and doing that regardless of the negative implications for others.