Bleh: American Airlines Adds Chicago To Tokyo Narita Route, Merely Replacing JAL

Bleh: American Airlines Adds Chicago To Tokyo Narita Route, Merely Replacing JAL

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Last week, American Airlines revealed plans to launch a new daily flight between Chicago and Tokyo, which is a route resumption, and also represents American’s return of Asia flying out of Chicago.

While I’m delighted to see American adding new long haul service, this is also about as boring as it gets (which isn’t to say it’s a bad idea, but…). There’s now a further update, as this service is actually net negative, as I see it, as American is simply replacing joint venture partner Japan Airlines on the route (thanks to S_LEE for flagging this). That’s kind of sad, since we basically just get a lower quality option…

American will once again fly from Chicago to Asia

As of March 27, 2027, American intends to launch daily nonstop flights between Chicago (ORD) and Tokyo Narita (NRT). The service will operate with the following schedule:

AA153 Chicago to Tokyo Narita departing 12:45PM arriving 3:30PM (+1 day)
AA154 Tokyo Narita to Chicago departing 5:50PM arriving 3:10PM

The 6,272-mile route is blocked at 12hr45min to Japan and 11hr20min to the United States. The airline will use one of its standard Boeing 787-9s for the service, featuring 305 seats, including 30 business class seats, 21 premium economy seats, and 254 economy seats.

This service technically represents a route resumption, since American last flew this until January 2020. So this wasn’t a pandemic cut at the time, but instead, it was cut shortly before that, as American increasingly retreated out of Chicago.

American otherwise services Tokyo Narita exclusively out of Dallas (DFW), while the airline offers service to Tokyo Haneda (HND) out of Dallas, Los Angeles (LAX), and New York (JFK). This is obviously part of American’s effort to increasingly compete against United in Chicago, given the extent to which United has gained market share there in recent years, and American is trying to undo that.

We recently saw American announce it would permanently cancel its route between Philadelphia (PHL) and Doha (DOH), and would add a new long haul route to replace it. I suspect that this is the route.

American will resume Chicago to Tokyo Narita flights

More long haul service is good, but there’s a big catch

American’s long haul route network is incredibly uninspiring, especially compared to United, and even increasingly in comparison to Delta. It’s sad, because it didn’t used to be that way.

As I’ve often said, American’s long haul route network is great for Latin America, but beyond that, the airline basically flies to joint venture hubs and does some seasonal summer flying to Europe. That’s of course a slight oversimplification, but that’s how I view it, big picture, in terms of the cohesive strategy.

What do I make of this route? Well, American is adding yet another route that’s simply to a joint venture hub, so it’s hard to get too excited about that. Joint venture partner Japan Airlines already flies daily to Chicago from both Tokyo Narita and Tokyo Haneda, so American is simply replicating what its joint venture partner is doing. Keep in mind the airlines can coordinate fares, schedules, etc.

It actually gets even worse than that, though. Japan Airlines will discontinue its route between Tokyo Narita and Chicago as of the same date that American launches the service. So American is simply replacing its joint venture partner. For what it’s worth, Japan Airlines has operated the route with the following schedule:

JL56 Tokyo Narita to Chicago departing 9:45AM arriving 7:20AM
JL55 Chicago to Tokyo Narita departing 11:35AM arriving 2:45PM (+1 day)

Japan Airlines is unarguably a higher quality airline than American, that can’t really be disputed. Fares shouldn’t change, since the joint venture partners can coordinate that. So I guess this is potentially good if you want to use miles or systemwide upgrades specifically on American, but other than that, this is a net negative.

Yeah, unfortunately we shouldn’t be surprised, but it’s sad how even when American adds a new long haul route, it somehow still manages to be a net negative for passengers.

American is replacing Japan Airlines in this market

Bottom line

American Airlines plans to resume daily nonstop flights between Chicago and Tokyo Narita as of late March 2027. This is a route that the airline last operated in early 2020, and when it was cut, it represented the end of American’s service from Chicago to Asia.

With the battle between American and United in Chicago heating up, American clearly feels it needs to fly to Asia again from the airport. I suppose that’s fair, though there’s a big catch, which is that joint venture partner Japan Airlines already operates this route, and will cut the route as of the same day that American launches it.

I’d love to see American actually permanently add long haul service to new destinations, but that’s not really the carrier’s strategy. Heck, at this point I’d settle for even just incremental capacity increases, but this isn’t even that. It’s just switching a route from a high quality airline to a lower quality airline.

What do you make of American adding Chicago to Tokyo Narita flights, and replacing Japan Airlines?

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  1. Ryan R Guest

    So is the AA Dreamliner going to sit for 17 hours overnight in Japan every night? Or is there some switcheroo taking place with the aircraft for the Dallas route?

    1. Joe Jones Guest

      It turns around immediately at NRT, and then presumably does a TATL turn from Chicago.

  2. David Guest

    Do you think JAL will do an equipment swap, aka downgrade to a 787 before they switch with AA? I'm booked on their first class in Feb.

    1. TA Guest

      JAL already flies a 787 on this route. Their 777 is to HND, which is not the route being downgraded to AA metal.

  3. Mick Guest

    I actually would rather fly AA in biz than the old JAL (or ANA) seat. More comfortable and more privacy and actually lots of storage.

    I’ve flown Ana a million times in biz in the last few years and the food is not knock your socks off good, or close to it. Flown JAL a fair bit too. First, biz, prem Econ and economy. On the planes without the new biz it’s really not that great of an airline.

  4. sfo-a350 Guest

    Ben, does this potentially free up one of the A350s that was already allocated or pending allocation to the ORD route? Would be wonderful if it meant that SFO-HND gets the A350 sooner!

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ sfo-a350 -- Officially, the A350 hadn't yet been scheduled on the Chicago route, so it's hard to say for sure. Maybe it would've gotten it a couple of years down the road, but I suspect SFO will be next, no matter what.

  5. Bob Chan Guest

    Replacing JAL with AA is a huge downgrade.

  6. Dan Guest

    Not related but let’s hope for ANA to fly to Panama.

    1. hbilbao Diamond

      I'm still waiting for JAL to fly to YYZ ;)

  7. Hk Guest

    If you check how many JAL (and partners) flights arrive NRT before 945am (current dep schedule) and right before 550pm (new schedule), you’ll understand why they’re doing it. This is the right step for us.

    1. PeteAU Guest

      Replacing JAL with AA is utterly craptacular, no matter how good the connections are at the other end.

  8. 1990 Guest

    If AA were to operate with 789P with the new Flagship Suites, this actually would be fine; sure, catering is better in JAL, and JL’s a35K is a superior aircraft, but it may not be all bad.

    1. Sel, D. Guest

      They’re not flying the A350 to Narita anyways.

    2. 1990 Guest

      Good riddance. HND is far better.

    3. PeteAU Guest

      Not necessarily. Depends if you’re connecting to regional Japan. Besides, it’s not that far into town.

  9. Max Guest

    Maybe the one upside to AA replacing JL, aside from the ability to use systemwide upgrades, is that the departure from Narita aligns with the late evening bank, rather than JL’s 0945 departure. That had the advantages of 1) Broadening time of day coverage for the local market by complementing, rather than duplicating, JL’s morning departure from HND and 2) Improving connectivity from SE Asia. Previously, you’d need to take a red eye up to...

    Maybe the one upside to AA replacing JL, aside from the ability to use systemwide upgrades, is that the departure from Narita aligns with the late evening bank, rather than JL’s 0945 departure. That had the advantages of 1) Broadening time of day coverage for the local market by complementing, rather than duplicating, JL’s morning departure from HND and 2) Improving connectivity from SE Asia. Previously, you’d need to take a red eye up to Tokyo to connect to Chicago from SIN/BKK/etc. With the evening departure, it is possible to leave in the morning and connect same-day to Chicago and the rest of the US.

    More capacity or a more exciting route would be nice, but at least this switch does provide a meaningful improvement over JL’s schedule.

    1. Sel, D. Guest

      The return flight to ORD schedule change makes this a net positive to me. I wouldn’t fly the previous AM to AM flight for free.

    2. Joe Jones Guest

      9:45 am out of NRT is rough for O&D passengers as you have to get out the door around 7 am and fight Tokyo morning rush hour traffic to get to the airport.

  10. Dusty Guest

    Sad to see that one go, JL56/55 was my first (and so far only) first class experience, back in summer 2018.

  11. Chesterwilson Guest

    Is JAL going to move up the ORD-HND time slot for passengers that would rather travel on JAL metal and connect through Haneda? ORD arrives 2 hours after other ex-USA JAL flights...

    1. Mano Guest

      Yeah, I thought the primary rationale for JL handing off ORD-NRT to AA is that it would allow both the NRT and HND flights to depart ORD for optimum onward connections in JP. If indeed that's the case, it would make this shift more strategic, more customer friendly, and less "bleh."

    2. Joe Jones Guest

      If anything I would prefer that JAL imitate the late timing of ANA's ORD-HND flight, which allows me to hang out on the East Coast until ~3pm and still get to Tokyo the following evening.

  12. Chicago Flyer Guest

    With UA actually adding an incremental ORD-NRT with NH already serving it, UA (and NH by extension) come out ahead yet again. The combo to both airports with both airlines, an American and Japanese/Asian carrier, works well so as to ensure maximum connectivity with customers from both points of sale/origin across local + behind/beyond traffic.

  13. Tim Dunn Diamond

    There was always a possibility that this was just an alliance swap.

    Given that America doesn't serve Asia at all from Chicago and all United serves is both Tokyo airports, this at least closes the gap a little bit for American.

    Narita has essentially become a connecting airport for deeper into Asia and it largely caters to US point of origin since HND carries the majority of premium traffic.

    The only real hope for any...

    There was always a possibility that this was just an alliance swap.

    Given that America doesn't serve Asia at all from Chicago and all United serves is both Tokyo airports, this at least closes the gap a little bit for American.

    Narita has essentially become a connecting airport for deeper into Asia and it largely caters to US point of origin since HND carries the majority of premium traffic.

    The only real hope for any change in US to Japan aviation is for Japan to open up more slots at Haneda and that will be the end of NRT as a TPAC airport but that is highly unlikely

    1. Xal Guest

      Good management team react fast as world changes, most of time things are simple. I won't be surprised if JL starts service from Miami

  14. Nikojas Guest

    Inbound tourism to Japan is at an all time high yet JAL don't grow or open new destinations. Here they are dropping one. I wonder what the logic is there.

    1. jetset Diamond

      This feels like more of a joint venture business decision than some broader strategic decision by JAL as it relates to tourism in Japan. There are all kinds of reasons why carriers will change who operates a given route in a joint venture - the overall capacity and route coverage isn't changing though.

    2. AS is S tier Guest

      Relatively speaking, ORD stinks in terms of premium demand. JL picked up cargo codeshares with KALITTA on the same route last year. This, combined with the fact that they were recently willing to swap to a 787 for their regular passenger route shows that perhaps they overshot their expectations for cargo demand. And that they didn't care too much for the second frequency on ORD/TYO.

  15. HopScotchRibs New Member

    Hmmn, I wonder what JAL will do with this frame they have freed up. NRT-PHX, maybe?

    1. Bob Chan Guest

      I don’t see JAL seriously considering PHX until the new terminal is done.

    2. justindev Guest

      I hope IAD

      I hope IAD

  16. Xal Guest

    Chicago is dead city most of businesses were moved out in last 2 years, I won't surprise if JL stop ORD-NRT.

  17. Azamaraal Diamond

    Having just flown (March) NRT-YVR I don't agree that JAL is necessarily better than AA. Our JAL flight was staffed by uninterested FA's and had poor beverage and food selections in J. Lounge in NRT was sub-optimal as well.

  18. Will Guest

    Wild to me that AA doesn't serve any TATL destation from ORD year-round other than LHR

    1. jacobin777 Guest

      I'm hoping they will (re)start more ORD-TATL too. I remember flying ORD-MAN-ORD on their Rocket-75's 10-15 years ago..that was actually not as bad as flight as I thought. AA can fly to OneWorld partner hubs for a start.

      ORD-TPAC might be a bit tougher given the competition.

    2. jetset Diamond

      I didn't realize it was that limited?! Kind of wild to me. I flew American a bit early on in my career when starting consulting and pretty quickly switched to United.
      United has its issues but I'm glad I switched back then as I near 1 million miles on United, which feels like a much better carrier long-term for someone based in Chicago.

  19. Damon Guest

    I would much rather see American compete with United at ORD from the perspective of OneWorld versus Star Alliance. Being ORD-based, I am so tired of having to connect through LHR to get to most major markets in Europe or MIA/DFW for Latin America and Asia. I can already log onto aa-dot-com and book flights directly to Tokyo from Chicago. But I can't do that to Lisbon or Warsaw or São Paulo or Istanbul or...

    I would much rather see American compete with United at ORD from the perspective of OneWorld versus Star Alliance. Being ORD-based, I am so tired of having to connect through LHR to get to most major markets in Europe or MIA/DFW for Latin America and Asia. I can already log onto aa-dot-com and book flights directly to Tokyo from Chicago. But I can't do that to Lisbon or Warsaw or São Paulo or Istanbul or ANYWHERE in Germany, or to SkyTeam destinations like Copenhagen or Seoul. As a frequent business traveler to Mexico City, I was thrilled to see them add direct service (even if that morning flight is a tad early for my tastes), but new routes need to be things we coudn't do through OneWorld before—not just new for American.

  20. Mike O. Guest

    Could this be related to PR joining oneworld? In the same vein, I wonder how would their relationship with NH play out? Would they divest altogether?

  21. Andrew Diamond

    When I read this, I feel like it's "WN adds NRT route!"

    Cool, but no normal person would book that over the alternatives.

    1. PeteAU Guest

      Gee, will I fly with JL or slum it on AA?

  22. Thomas Guest

    I was hoping the long rumored LIT-NRT would finally happen!

  23. 1990 Guest

    More options between US-JP is good for consumers. Japan is not ‘boring’ at all… Oh, did you mean Chicago? Oof.

  24. Pedro Guest

    It’s funny how even a benign news report about a new AA route turns into a debate in the comments section about how DL is the best. I think a lot of readers are getting a bit tired of that.

    1. AC Guest

      More than a bit tired. Amazing some people have nothing better to do that reactively respond to any comment with DL news.

    2. 1990 Guest

      You don’t come here for the banter? Meh, you do you…

    3. ImmortalSynn Guest

      "I think a lot of readers are getting a bit tired of that."

      You SAY that, but the ACTIONS of people here tell a different story.

      99 times out of 100, if there's even the proximate potential to discuss Delta in a conversation, you people will start saying his name (like he's friggin Beetlejuice or Candyman) until he shows up and starts ranting. Heck, half the time, they'll start ranting FOR him, if he doesn't show up, in the hopes that he does.

    4. JBBlue New Member

      Yes, I think it’s time to fix the glitch

  25. Nate Guest

    I hope this doesn't eliminate the seasonal second JL flight out of ORD

  26. JDL Guest

    Would prefer PVG, can only hope for more JL award space.

  27. Hk Guest

    If JL flies this route, schedule is less optimal for the late afternoon flight bank (unless keep ORD-HND late afternoon like NH or even red-eye which isn’t optimal). This AA makes more sense to operate this route. Same for PHL-DOH - QR makes more sense. To keep the circle, HND-DOH better be operated by QR than JL for a better flight timing but that’s up to slots etc.

  28. Dave Guest

    I think it should have been PHL-HND, as I am a Philly flyer. hehehe. On a serious note, how come there is no service to Asia from PHL?

    1. 1990 Guest

      Do you consider DOH as “Asia” (QR still flies it), or where you thinking of East Asia?

    2. jacobin777 Guest

      I'm guessing you mean "Asia Pacific" or possibly "Southeast Asia"? Hopefully with the B787's and A359's being integrated into fleets, we'll start to see carriers offer service to PHL from Asia.

  29. David Guest

    No need to say “increasingly retreated” or “increasingly compete.” It is sufficient to say “retreated” or “compete” in this article.

    1. Nate Guest

      Lucky has a word counter on the homepage -- "43,914,800 Words Written" it says currently.

      43,914,799 doesn't sound as impressive.

  30. Ethan Guest

    JL9/10 is already the easiest route to score a first class seat on JL TPAC flights, so I suppose AA is making JL fliers' life even easier.

    1. justindev Guest

      Used to be. No longer the case. F are now very hard to come by.

  31. Mano Guest

    Another boring restoration that would make me so happy is returning AA90 ORD-LHR to its longtime morning departure time. I know it was an operational headache, but it was the last vestige of American's "We Mean Business in Chicago."

    1. Robert Fahr Guest

      For any of us in the Midwest, AA 90 was our only same day daytime option to LHR. I want it back.

  32. Bob Guest

    This is good news for those who are into Atmos rewards as there will be more award availability to/from Japan.

    1. Nate Guest

      Yes but its on AA, the Spirit of international carriers.

  33. George N Romey Guest

    Boring, just means the ORD FL will be more crowded in the AM.

    1. 1990 Guest

      Oh no… our Concierge Keys on domestic flights won’t have it all to themselves… *sad face*

  34. Mike Guest

    Bloggers will complain about anything lol

  35. James Guest

    Thanks for sharing this informative article about American Airlines Chicago to Tokyo Narita flights. It provides useful insights for travelers planning an international journey and looking for convenient flight options. Details about routes, schedules, and travel tips can make trip planning much easier

  36. Todd S Guest

    One of my friends at AA HDQ told me the plan is to start ORD-NRT service and if the load factor is higher than 35%, they will move the flight from ORD-NRT to ELP-NRT. Customers will then have a smaller, seamless airport to transit for a better customer experience to and from Asia. I think it makes total sense, eh?

  37. John Guest

    Ben — any idea why Delta hasn’t tried a service to Asia from JFK? I would think they could at least make JFK to Seoul work with the Korean Air connectivity (if not JFK-Tokyo). It seems like a glaring missing piece from Delta’s JFK hub.

    1. Anthony Guest

      Shhhhhhh. Tim Dunn will hear you.

    2. Nate Guest

      Because they already offer flights from Detroit, Minneapolis and Seattle, all of which are "on the way". Delta only has so many slots at HND and has shut its NRT hub. Unlike AA/UAL, Delta doesn't have a JV partner offering connecting flights out of HND or NRT (although it likely still has the the legacy NW fifth freedom rights).

      Plus the goal isn't to fly everywhere from every hub. The goal is to fly full flights. That's how you maintain profitability.

    3. Tim Dunn Diamond

      DL will add JFK-ICN flights. what they add beyond that remains to be seen but they can do more with both versions of the A350 than AA or UA can do with the 787.

      ICN is a larger hub than either Tokyo hub.

      DL is very disciplined about focusing its strategic efforts; DL's strategic focus is growing Asia from the west coast right now

    4. yoloswag420 Guest

      Genuinely asking, what's the point of JFK to ICN flights on Delta metal? It doesn't better serve NYC customers any better than flying on KE via ICN to a specific Asia destination or to SEA/LAX/DTW for HND/PVG/TPE/HKG.

      Aside from fulfilling the JV clauses for flying, it actually doesn't enhance their network at all.

      Delta would be better off serving something unique like DEL.

    5. ImmortalSynn Guest

      "Aside from fulfilling the JV clauses for flying, it actually doesn't enhance their network at all."

      You just answered your own question, while dismissing your own conclusion.

      Remember that Delta's reciprocity requirement isn't geographically correlated: an Asian turn can offset increased flying by European partner. And with SAS potentially joining the j/v, adding a Seoul turn could be a low-risk offset, and one that also grants Korean some flexibility, as it rationalizes its own post-merger...

      "Aside from fulfilling the JV clauses for flying, it actually doesn't enhance their network at all."

      You just answered your own question, while dismissing your own conclusion.

      Remember that Delta's reciprocity requirement isn't geographically correlated: an Asian turn can offset increased flying by European partner. And with SAS potentially joining the j/v, adding a Seoul turn could be a low-risk offset, and one that also grants Korean some flexibility, as it rationalizes its own post-merger capacity in several key markets.

  38. ross Guest

    This is great for connection through one world alliance that mostly fly to NRT

  39. Tim Dunn Diamond

    given that UA just announced it is starting ORD-NRT service and NH didn't start it, AA and JL just might have an advantage unless JL cancels its ORD-NRT flight.

    and Tokyo, including Narita - might be boring but that is all any US airline manages to fly from Chicago.

    Given that DL manages to fly to HND and ICN from both DTW and MSP as well as DTW-PVG, it would seem that DL not...

    given that UA just announced it is starting ORD-NRT service and NH didn't start it, AA and JL just might have an advantage unless JL cancels its ORD-NRT flight.

    and Tokyo, including Narita - might be boring but that is all any US airline manages to fly from Chicago.

    Given that DL manages to fly to HND and ICN from both DTW and MSP as well as DTW-PVG, it would seem that DL not only is the airline from the Midwest to East Asia but also does "interesting" better than what AA or UA do from Chicago.

    1. John Guest

      Dude, you have totally lost the plot and look absolutely ridiculous from an outsider’s perspective. I’m a loyal Delta flyer, but to suggest Delta in any way, shape or form has a route network even remotely as “interesting” or exotic as United is absolutely ridiculous.

    2. Andy Guest

      Timmy, Delta flies to fewer long haul destinations from MSP & DTW combined than UA does from ORD - so no they lose the interesting battle (again). Can you please start fact checking your own writing?

    3. Tim Dunn Diamond

      And yet we are not talking about anything except East Asia. Can you just admit that Delta serves East Asia from the Midwest better than American or United?

    4. Andy Guest

      We aren't talking about DTW and MSP either Tim. Can you just exit the discussion because DL doesn't serve any international destinations from Chicago?

    5. Anthony Guest

      Quintessential Tim Dunn moving the goal posts comment. "Can someone validate this extremely narrow data point that proves delta superiority?" Who do you think cares about the most exciting midwest to East Asia airline? Do you even read these comments before you post?

    6. Mark Guest

      And yet UA has three flights from NYC to Asia, including one to SkyTeam hub ICN, while DL doesn’t fly to Asia at all from NYC.

      Gets back to the whole idea of DL struggling to compete outside of their fortress hubs.

    7. Tim Dunn Diamond

      we get that, Mark. and nobody tried to argue any differently.

      JUST SAY IT.

      DL serves more of E. Asia from the Midwest than any other US airline.

      and DL serves more of E. Asia from outside of CA than any other airline.
      iow, UA's TPAC network is VERY HEAVILY dependent on SFO.

    8. 1990 Guest

      Ahh, yes, Delta flyers yearn for those Ulaanbaatar and Nuuk flights… not.

    9. Roberto Guest

      LITERALLY NOBODY BESIDES YOUR MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES CARES. NOBODY.

    10. Tim Dunn Diamond

      actually a whole lot of people care including you because you repeatedly can be counted on to post some drivel saying that nobody cares. It gets under your skin so, yes, it gets noticed

    11. MaxPower Diamond

      Tim
      have you noticed you're the only one talking about DTW & MSP and weirdly enough... seem to insist that somebody repeats something only you're talking about.

      As ever... you have a mental disorder and you keep pushing it into the public eye. That's not an attack on you, it's an observation.

      Get help

    12. HopScotchRibs New Member

      Nah, I think it'd truly be "interesting" if Delta flew from Tokyo to Chicago ;)

    13. Lieflat19 Diamond

      Bro, You completely lost the plot. Nobody cares about Delta flying from Minneapolis or Detroit. Seriously?! Delta is no where close to United's global network.

    14. 321321321 Guest

      NH flies to both HND and NRT from ORD, no? You said that NH never started it. And BTW UA will be the same this fall. Nice to see AA start to rebuild the bones of an international network. Baby steps, but steps nonetheless.

      DL needs to fly to HND from DTW and MSP because they don't from ORD. Otherwise they would have a giant hole. That's entirely logical, but not "interesting". Interesting would be DL's return to NRT.

    15. Weymar Osborne Diamond

      ANA has been flying NRT to Chicago for ages, on the NH 11/12 rotation. I've taken it many times.

    16. UA-NYC Diamond

      The Timcel puts the lotion in the basket otherwise it gets the hose again

    17. Tim Dunn Diamond

      and yet people seem to feel more of a need to respond to what I wrote than any person on this or other sites.

      the simple fact is that any 6000 mile route is a big deal esp. for AA which hasn't flown to E. Asia from Chicago for years.

      Boring, if there is such a thing, is adding a route which is already flown by someone else - which says ORD is more of...

      and yet people seem to feel more of a need to respond to what I wrote than any person on this or other sites.

      the simple fact is that any 6000 mile route is a big deal esp. for AA which hasn't flown to E. Asia from Chicago for years.

      Boring, if there is such a thing, is adding a route which is already flown by someone else - which says ORD is more of a competitive slugfest than adding anything unique and that AA and UA don't fly to anything more in E Asia than Tokyo from ORD

      DL manages to support Tokyo and Seoul from both DTW and MSP as well as China from DTW; if boring is Tokyo only flying then DTW must be nirvana from the Midwest.

    18. MaxPower Diamond

      "and yet people seem to feel more of a need to respond to what I wrote than any person on this or other sites."

      because you're the only one that writes such idiotic stupid liles that need a direct response. Only you would pat yourself on the back for being stupid and assume others respond to you because of how important you are. Your situational awareness is zero.

  40. BigT3x Gold

    As per usual, zero vision or strategy from AA. If the plan is to lean on the partners, then do it. Let JAL have this route and use this plane to serve a new market. They never commit to any one strategy.

    1. Icarus Guest

      Perhaps JL wants to do the same. How do you know JL has the capacity to operate the route ?

  41. Dolphin Guest

    Boring. Wish we could see MIA-NRT instead…

    1. ImmortalSynn Guest

      Why would they do that, when there's -nil- demand for such a route though?

      Las Vegas, Nashville, and Indianapolis all generated more traffic to Japan than Miami did last year, and they're much smaller cities. If you count the metro area, Vegas had more traffic to Japan than Miami + Ft. Lauderdale + Palm Beach combined.

      Both AA and JAL have had aircraft capable of flying the route, for nearly 30 years. The fact...

      Why would they do that, when there's -nil- demand for such a route though?

      Las Vegas, Nashville, and Indianapolis all generated more traffic to Japan than Miami did last year, and they're much smaller cities. If you count the metro area, Vegas had more traffic to Japan than Miami + Ft. Lauderdale + Palm Beach combined.

      Both AA and JAL have had aircraft capable of flying the route, for nearly 30 years. The fact that they still haven't bothered, despite it being hub-to-hub, should tell you everything you need to know.

  42. Roberto Guest

    The math is not mathing on the seat count. I think it’s only 285?

  43. betterbub Diamond

    Absolutely bonkers AA didn't fly to the entire Asian continent from the third largest metro area in the US for this long

    1. Miguel_R Gold

      Once upon a time (20 or so years ago), ORD was AA’s primary gateway to Asia. NRT, PVG/PEK (can’t remember which, might have been both), and DEL were all served from there. Only NRT had service from a couple other hubs.

    2. Joe D Guest

      Exactly! In 2010, I took the JAL flight to NRT. I remember walking by a gaggle of AA employees complaining about their partnership with JAL, but I also remember seeing quite a few AA 777s in Narita while waiting for my connection to Hanoi. Back then, AA’s 3 class 777s with true first were considered best in class at age front of the plane, but I was eager toto enjoy JAL’s superior economy experience since I was a humble person on a budget.

    3. jacobin777 Guest

      My guesses as to why they ended those flights:
      1)Costs (fuel, labor, etc.) was getting a bit too high.
      2)Lack of premium seats getting filled.
      3)General "retreat" (as we've seen) from ORD - hopefully that will change.
      4).DFW growing significantly in that time. Both as a metro and as a hub.

    4. ImmortalSynn Guest

      Not unprecedented. Delta is the top carrier at the nation's busiest international gateway, in its largest metro; and also does not fly to Asia. Not even any of its Asian j/v partner hubs.

      The only technically-Asian flight they've offered from there in more than a decade, is Tel Aviv, and that can't even operate continuously (for obvious reasons).

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John Guest

Dude, you have totally lost the plot and look absolutely ridiculous from an outsider’s perspective. I’m a loyal Delta flyer, but to suggest Delta in any way, shape or form has a route network even remotely as “interesting” or exotic as United is absolutely ridiculous.

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Pedro Guest

It’s funny how even a benign news report about a new AA route turns into a debate in the comments section about how DL is the best. I think a lot of readers are getting a bit tired of that.

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PeteAU Guest

Replacing JAL with AA is utterly craptacular, no matter how good the connections are at the other end.

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