Cell Phone Issues On Boeing 787? Here’s Why…

If you’ve flown a Boeing 787 Dreamliner, you may have noticed that your cell phone suddenly loses its signal when you board the plane. No, it’s not something you’re doing, and it’s not your imagination… it’s a real thing.

The Boeing 787 often blocks cell phone signals

In general, cell phone data around airports often isn’t great. However, there’s an additional issue that’s specific to the Boeing 787, which I know leaves many people confused.

The second you board a Boeing 787, you may notice that your signal suddenly gets much worse, or is lost completely. Let me be clear — this isn’t always the case, and often you still get a signal. However, it happens way more than on other planes, and it’s due to something specific related to this popular wide body jet (and this is something that Boeing engineers have even confirmed).

Obviously this can be frustrating. Many people still try to get some stuff done during boarding, whether it’s sending some emails from your phone, making a phone call, or tethering on your laptop.

So, what causes this issue, and why is it specific to the Boeing 787? I’m really bad at science, but let me explain my understanding of the “reliable” theories I’ve heard.

The first explanation that I ever heard for this is that it’s because the Boeing 787 is made up of composite materials, so it uses a wire rebar for structural integrity. That rebar apparently interferes with cellular signals on the plane.

But then I’ve heard other knowledgable people say that’s not quite right, and that the copper mesh embedded in the carbon fiber composite creates a faraday cage. That copper mesh is needed so that if lighting strikes the plane, it doesn’t blow a hole in the carbon fiber.

Then there’s another explanation that I’ve commonly seen thrown around, which is that it’s related to the electrically controlled windows, and the fact that they have transparent electrodes coated on them, which transmit light but not radio frequency, leading to poor cell reception.

Honestly, I don’t know which of the three explanations is correct, or if the truth is a combination of multiple of those factors. What I do know is that this is a very real thing, though.

Is this related to the fuselage? Or windows?

What explains the inconsistency, though?

Okay, while I can’t even explain exactly what causes this issue, what’s even more puzzling to me is what explains the huge inconsistency. Sometimes I’ll have a Boeing 787 flight where I have zero data issues, and sometimes I’ll have a 787 flight where I have zero data for an hour on the ground.

Does anyone want to take a stab at what explains this variance? Is it a function of where on the plane you’re sitting? Is it that at airports with a weak signal, it’s just even weaker on the 787?

I’m not sure what explains the inconsistency

Bottom line

On the Boeing 787, it’s normal to lose your cell phone signal as soon as you step on the plane. This is a common issue that’s related to the fuselage of the jet, or the windows, or a combination of the two. What I still haven’t been able to work out, though, is what causes the inconsistency.

Have you noticed the issue with cell phone data on the Boeing 787?

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Tony N Guest

Obviously they will do anything to make your flight inconvenient and to turn off that phone.

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Javier Lifa Guest

The A380 and, I believe, also the A350 feature electronically-controlled window dimming (no rolling shades) and, in the case of the former, it too features a copper mesh all around the fuselage - but I haven't seen reports of mobile phones losing signal inside.

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Jim Guest

It's worth noting that many countries use multiple bands for similar services. Here in South Africa some networks use both 900MHz and 2300MHz for 4G/LTE services. The lower the frequency, the more likely that the signal will pass through the fuselage with less hindrance. The body will be a Faraday Cage or else, lightening would be a huge issue!

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AV8R Guest

I'm a Captain on the 787. The Faraday cage has several purposes. The 787 flies higher, more regularly, than most other airliners. As a result, the thinner atmosphere has higher ratiation and there would normally be more exposure to UV radiation. We are regularly informed what our Cosmic radiation exposure total is, and it is 1/4 of that experienced in other aircraft such as the A320 or B737. The Faraday also provides, as stated, protection from lightning. The fuselage is entirely Carbon Fibre, as is much else on the plane and it is a *static* magnet. Picture sliding down a childrens plastic playground slide and the static that usually creates. The 787, as it moves through the air encounters micro particulates which create static. The plane is made to discharge the static, But the embedded Faraday prevents cell phones and non-external antenna radios such GPS from working in the passenger cabin. Note, this is actually a good thing, as frequent fliers exposure to radiation is significantly less.

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Dogmatick Guest

The reason it works on some aircraft on not others should worry you in light of the whistle-blowers and cost cutting reports. Immediately makes me wonder if the planes it does work on is missing something important !

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