Hilton Honors Elite Breakfast Benefit: Gaslighting Vs. Reading Comprehension

Hilton Honors Elite Breakfast Benefit: Gaslighting Vs. Reading Comprehension

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If you don’t want a bit of sass, by all means skip this post. To the rest of you, thanks for indulging me, because sometimes it’s fun. I can handle trolls, and constructive criticism, and all of that stuff.

One thing I struggle with is people who are clearly very smart (in some ways), yet have astonishingly bad logic, but still remain convinced that they’re correct. That’s probably something I just have to get over, because it feels like this is becoming a bigger issue in day-to-day life.

So yeah, let me give one of those people a platform for a moment, and I’ll let y’all decide who is being the logical one (and if I’m the one in the wrong, by all means call me out, because I’m not all-knowing, and I’m always happy to learn and evolve!). Am I gaslighting, or am I being gaslit with gaslighting claims?

Hilton’s biggest fan takes issue with my elite breakfast claims

Yesterday, I published a post about World of Hyatt’s Globalist breakfast benefit, and how it works. I briefly mentioned how World of Hyatt’s policy compares to that of other programs, and wrote the following about the Hilton Honors breakfast benefit:

Hilton Gold elite and Hilton Diamond members simply receive a food & beverage credit in the United States, which generally won’t cover a proper breakfast; outside the United States, Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge, though many hotels go above and beyond and offer a full hot breakfast

That wasn’t intended to be controversial, or anything, and I’m actually a big fan of the Hilton Honors program, in general. However, apparently I wasn’t spinning things enough.

Hilton’s biggest fan, DCS, sent me quite the email. He boycotts OMAAT, or so he claims, but then he also emails me when he takes issue with something I write about Hilton, and I guess he thinks he’s extending me some courtesy by doing this in private, saving me the public humiliation.

But he doesn’t have to be so kind, so let me just give him the “mic,” because he claims I’m gaslighting the OMAAT community. I’m all for giving people with different perspectives a platform, so here we go:

I corrected the claims below, one of which you simply made, and the other is just completely disconnected from reality, but both designed to satisfy a morbid need for World of Hyatt to be a superior loyalty program. As they say in French, “À bon vin point d’enseigne”, which literally meeans “A good bottle of one does need a label”, so if WoH were as good as you claim it to be then, you would not need to make up stuff to support the point. That you continue recycling clearly unsupported claims is largely why I am avoiding sites like yours. Below is the evidence, inncontrovertible and exact, which debunks the following two points privately, so that you would not feel cornered and try to make up more stuff to try to justify the original gaslighting of your readers:

“…outside the United States, Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge, though many hotels go above and beyond and offer a full hot breakfast.”

Wrong: outside the US, Hilton hotels invariably offer free and full restaurant breakfast by default — something you know to be true because you have stayed at Hilton hotels overseas as an “Aspire” Diamond.

Nevertheless, supposing you truly believe that claim, then here the way to know that it is bogus. It’s a simple syllogism: 

  1. Hilton Golds have access to the exec lounge only if they upgraded to a room on the exec floor.
  2. However, we know that Golds get free breakfast even when not staying on the exec floor.
  3. Therefore, conclusion is logically inescapable: overseas the hotel restaurant is the default venue for HH elite free breakfast because if your claim that “Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge…”, then HH Golds’ not upgraded to the exec floor at hotels with an exec lounge would be out of luck. Because we know that HH Golds get free breakfast [in the hotel restaurant!] even when they are not upgraded to the exec floor, the hotel restaurant must be the default venue for HH elite free breakfast, and that claim that you’ve recycled for years is utterly bogus. Simple logic wins.

And here’s the “coup de grâce“: the attached PDF shows a few welcome letters that I have received at hotels overseas (you should have as well if you paid attention). Note the what they all say: breakfast is served in the exec lounge or, optionally, in the hotel restaurant, and it is NOT “continental breakfast”. It is the full buffet.

See? Even at hotels with an exec lounge, HH Diamonds and Golds upgraded to the exec floor get free full restaurant breakfast. The optional exec lounge or restaurant breakfast is automatic for HH Diamonds because they have exec lounge privileges even when not staying on the exec floor, otherwise they too would be entitled to free restaurant-only breakfast by default, like Golds are. The evidence is there, incontrovertible. You have been gaslighting your readers for years and still are, despite, I suspect, knowing that you’re gaslighting them. One possibility is that you’ve been telling the lie for so long that you fell for your own fabrication (“The Josef Goebbels Syndrome”) because, as I have pointed out multiple times, what you claim is a Hilton policy, which is not written anywhere (other than the expectation-lowering “continental breakfast”, a leftover from the days when breakfast was universally served in the US), is actually a writtenWorld of Hyatt policy:

“(d) Club Lounge Access/Breakfast Benefit. When staying at a participating hotel or resort that has a Club lounge, Globalists will receive access to the Club lounge. When staying at a participating hotel or resort that does not have a Club lounge (or if Club lounge is closed), Globalists will receive daily complimentary full breakfast”

See? You as a WoH Globalist get free restaurant breakfast only when there is no club lounge, i.e., precisely what you claim is Hilton’s policy, but it is in the WoH T&C! Up is down, left is right…don’t you get dizzy!

Many Hiltons offer a full breakfast for elite members!

Let’s unpack that logic for a moment, can we?

DCS takes issue with this claim of mine:

“…outside the United States, Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge, though many hotels go above and beyond and offer a full hot breakfast”

I think that’s pretty straightforward, but let me just say it again, since seemingly we don’t all read the same way. I claimed that outside the United States:

  • Hilton promises a continental breakfast
  • Many hotels go above and beyond to offer a full hot breakfast

Is that wrong? Well, let’s consult the Hilton Honors terms & conditions regarding the elite breakfast benefit:

“When selected as a MyWay Benefit by a Gold or Diamond Member, daily complimentary continental breakfast is provided for the Member and up to one additional guest registered to the same room each day of Member’s stay at hotels located outside of the United States. The complimentary breakfast applies to the one guest room in which the Elite member is staying. Breakfast is only served in the hotel’s designated restaurant or Executive Lounge. At the discretion of the hotel or where breakfast is a brand amenity, the hotel may provide full breakfast or in-room service. Complimentary continental breakfast is not available as a MyWay Benefit at hotels in the U.S.”

How dare I suggest that Hilton only promises continental breakfast for elite members, eh? Where could I have gotten such an outlandish idea? 😉 What’s so bizarre here is that DCS basically is trying to redefine what I said:

  • The first thing worth noting is that I said “outside the United States,” and he seems to redefine that as “overseas,” and I’m not sure if that’s deliberate or not
  • Second, DCS seems to argue that if restaurant breakfast is being offered, then it must be full breakfast and not continental

And of course all of that is complete hogwash. I completely agree with him that most Hilton properties “overseas” offer a full restaurant breakfast for elite members. I suggested nothing to the contrary. But arguing that all properties (“invariably”) offer “free and full restaurant breakfast by default” is simply false.

To give one example, the Waldorf Astoria Los Cabos (which is a lovely property) offers continental breakfast to elite members, which includes a fruit plate, pastries, and yogurt. If you want to upgrade to the buffet, there’s a fee for that. Are we defining that as a full breakfast?

Look, a Hilton Honors elite continental breakfast!

DCS, how about you instead put your energy toward blasting Hilton Honors for the lack of promotions that we’ve seen, plus the huge devaluation to Hilton Honors points, rather than criticizing me for *checks notes* accurately quoting Hilton Honors’ terms & conditions.

Bottom line

I know it can be inconvenient when loyalty program rules and terms don’t match what we’d like them to say. However, in those situations, maybe it’s best to just keep those thoughts to yourself, rather than gaslighting someone, and claiming they’re gaslighting by telling the truth.

Outside the United States, Hilton Honors promises elite members continental breakfast, though many (most, I’d estimate) properties go above and beyond, and offer full breakfast. However, that’s absolutely not the case 100% of the time, and I’m not going to lie about what a policy is in order to suit my narrative. G’day!

Sound off in the comments, please — if I’m wrong, call me out!

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  1. Kacee Guest

    When I first moved to the big city many years ago, I quickly learned a key point for urban survival: DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THE CRAZY PERSON ON THE BUS.

    DCS is that person. Do not engage.

  2. Sel, D. Guest

    Clearly DCS is correct because the Waldorf Cabo breakfast also includes GRANOLA!!!

    I'm curious if he only went once years ago, because they did used to offer the buffet or an a la carte item.

    The remodel pics look decent, but modernizing hotels with rustic charm comes at a cost. Oh and at 250k points (at least) I will not be returning.

  3. Tim G Guest

    Okay, I'll go against the grain here and say whilst DCS is clearly borderline deranged, he is clearly just interpreting the statement you made in a different, valid logical way.

    He thinks you mean "Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge" means that you are saying IF there IS a club lounge, you don't get breakfast, and so would only get it if you have lounge access. This isn't true and...

    Okay, I'll go against the grain here and say whilst DCS is clearly borderline deranged, he is clearly just interpreting the statement you made in a different, valid logical way.

    He thinks you mean "Hilton promises a continental breakfast when there’s not a club lounge" means that you are saying IF there IS a club lounge, you don't get breakfast, and so would only get it if you have lounge access. This isn't true and isn't outright suggested logically by your statement, but it could be interpreted as such.

    Having said that, I don't know DCS is taking this perceived error so personally.

  4. Clem Diamond

    I was worried about DCS disappearance from the comments section! We should put him in a room with Tim Dunn and see what happens...

  5. KP Guest

    Stayed at a Hilton resort hotel in Whistler Canada last week & was offered $24 Canadian towards food & beverage credit. Have been Hilton Diamond for years( in the past staying at the same hotel was offered full hot breakfast) they do not have an executive lounge at this hotel

    1. NK3 Diamond

      Yep, I stayed there recently, with the same credit. Of note, it is $24 Canadian per person (so $48 CAD for double occupancy). The continental buffet is $24, and full buffet is $46. So the credit covers the continental breakfast, aside from taxes and tip.

  6. CP@YOW Guest

    Last fall, I stayed at a Curio Collection hotel outside the US (in Canada) and as Diamond was given a F&B credit, not the continental breakfast required by the T&C. I'm not sure if the credit was sufficient to cover continental breakfast as I used it on snacks in the evening, but there was definitely not a full breakfast offered.

  7. East of the Middle Guest

    I had the same convo with him last year on LL about Cabo's breakfast and he simply dismissed my argument because "it was hearsay". I'm not sure why such a Hilton fanboy is yet to stay at one of their most aspirational properties and see it for himself.

    I also pointed out that despite the T&C stating f&b credit is US only, Hilton on the Canadian side of the falls actually does the f&b thing...

    I had the same convo with him last year on LL about Cabo's breakfast and he simply dismissed my argument because "it was hearsay". I'm not sure why such a Hilton fanboy is yet to stay at one of their most aspirational properties and see it for himself.

    I also pointed out that despite the T&C stating f&b credit is US only, Hilton on the Canadian side of the falls actually does the f&b thing too. He couldn't fathom the thought of a franchised hotel violating Hilton's T&Cs, it's just not possible. He also seems to believe that everyone wears their seatbelt and follows the speed limit because those are the rules. You can't really win against someone like that

    1. PENILE Guest

      He’s a lifelong academic. Textbook ivory tower. All his friends are the same. Single, and no partner or kids to clue him in on the error of his ways.

  8. GRkennedy Guest

    Apologise my ignorance, but what is the difference between Continental Breakfast and Full Breakfast?

    1. PENILE Guest

      A continental breakfast is a euphemism. It means cheap a la carte ultraprocessed junk, typically also cold, like Frosted Flakes and a packaged muffin. Maybe a banana if you’re lucky.

      Full breakfast is cooked, typically hot, and a “set” like omelette with toast and homefries.

    2. Regis Guest

      Continental means the usual breakfast consumed in continental Europe (Western Europe excluding the UK), heavily influenced by France, consisting usually of a plain croissant, some butter, jam, a fruit and a cup of coffee. Opposed to the full hot English breakfast served in the UK.

  9. Alonzo Diamond

    DCS is the King and you must bow down to the King you peasants!!

  10. Alan Guest

    he is the biggest fan of Hilton Loyalty program by far. I would argue IHG is more valuable than Hyatt for me.

  11. Mike Guest

    I'll never understand how someone so completely loves a brand which does not and cannot love them back. Especially when it's arguing disingenuously about minutiae.

  12. Matt Guest

    Is DCS the HH equivalent of Tim Dunn?

  13. Steve Guest

    As someone who is a fair bit older than you and frequently experiences the same frustration with people who don't seem to be very good with logic I commend you on your insight that the answer is to work on just getting over it. It took me a half a lifetime to realize that their failure at logic isn't a bug but a feature which allows them to hold onto beliefs that are clearly wrong.

  14. Victor Guest

    Smart and psychopath are not mutually exclusive. I couldnt even make it through his email

  15. Luis Guest

    I remember writing a comment a few years ago about how I had just come back from WA Los Cabos and as a diamond member, only got continental breakfast and had to pay extra for the full breakfast and DCS chimed in saying that was a lie and that he had been to that property and got free full breakfast as a diamond. lol ok.

  16. Regis Guest

    We recently stayed at the Conrad Punta Mita (Mexico) as a Diamond. They have no lounge and we only got a continental breakfasts - full breakfast offered for additional fee. Same experience at the Hilton Seychelles. Outside the US, my rate of getting full breakfasts as a Diamond is 50/50.

  17. DMoney Guest

    Ben,

    How did you even have the energy to read his email, forget about writing a post addressing that email. The email itself was so exausting after first 3 lines that I stopped reading the email and rest of the post beyond that...

    Like someone else said in the comments below - I a msure you've got better things to do today. If you haven't, I have got 1000 ideas on what you could write about and "response" to a stupid internet stranger isn't one of those.

  18. YT Guest

    Wow! DCS sure went through a lot of trouble to write that.

  19. Christian Guest

    Sounds like DCS is off his meds again. Somebody get him some Thorazine.

  20. PENILE Guest

    DCS is most famous for his argument that Hilton points and Hyatt points are equally valuable.

  21. hbilbao Diamond

    Wrong: outside the US, Hilton hotels invariably offer free and full restaurant breakfast by default

    Oh god, Hilton Niagara Falls/Fallsview in NF, Ontario, Canada (outside the USA), does not offer free and full restaurant breakfast. It offers a 15CAD voucher that buys you probably a black coffee and a croissant. Source: me, I stayed there as an HH gold.

    1. PENILE Guest

      Niagara Falls is the most overrated destination. I couldn’t wait to take my flixbus out of there and explore the city of Toronto, which was incredible, especially if you enjoy breasts.

    2. hbilbao Diamond

      The actual falls are nice but, yeah, there are too many overrated places and the Hilton itself is a tourist trap.

  22. Jacob Guest

    Hey DCS, how do you feel about Hilton raising their award point redemptions substantially this year at luxury hotels? I’ll wait.

  23. Roberto Guest

    Are we talking about the same entity that has mentioned in the comments on LoyaltyLobby that the current Hilton Honnors devaluations are also too much for him and has no more patience with the program: https://loyaltylobby.com/2025/09/09/hiltons-third-massive-high-end-points-devaluation-in-10-months-top-hotels-now-up-to-250000-points-per-night/#comments

    Where the answer to Sebastian is : " Bottom line: Even as a LT Diamond, I will quit Hilton Honors 'cold turkey' if the cost of patronizing the program similarly becomes a 'bridge too far', which it might become...

    Are we talking about the same entity that has mentioned in the comments on LoyaltyLobby that the current Hilton Honnors devaluations are also too much for him and has no more patience with the program: https://loyaltylobby.com/2025/09/09/hiltons-third-massive-high-end-points-devaluation-in-10-months-top-hotels-now-up-to-250000-points-per-night/#comments

    Where the answer to Sebastian is : " Bottom line: Even as a LT Diamond, I will quit Hilton Honors 'cold turkey' if the cost of patronizing the program similarly becomes a 'bridge too far', which it might become soon at the rate of their recent devaluations, coupled with the gutting of their promos, which were, until 2025, one of the program's key differentiating features."

  24. Luke Guest

    Email from DCS clearly written by ChatGpT/AI with all those big words and french quote added in :)

    1. neogucky Guest

      I doubt it with the mistakes strewn into it, ChatGPT would also sound more coherent.

  25. MildMidwesterner Diamond

    "Two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know; and such small portions."

  26. UncleRonnie Diamond

    I think you’ve both got better things to do today.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ UncleRonnie -- I will fully concede that point!

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Steve Guest

As someone who is a fair bit older than you and frequently experiences the same frustration with people who don't seem to be very good with logic I commend you on your insight that the answer is to work on just getting over it. It took me a half a lifetime to realize that their failure at logic isn't a bug but a feature which allows them to hold onto beliefs that are clearly wrong.

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Victor Guest

Smart and psychopath are not mutually exclusive. I couldnt even make it through his email

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Regis Guest

We recently stayed at the Conrad Punta Mita (Mexico) as a Diamond. They have no lounge and we only got a continental breakfasts - full breakfast offered for additional fee. Same experience at the Hilton Seychelles. Outside the US, my rate of getting full breakfasts as a Diamond is 50/50.

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