Intriguing Finnair Plus Promo To Buy Points & Status

Intriguing Finnair Plus Promo To Buy Points & Status

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Strategically buying points for premium travel can be a great value. The Finnair Plus program has just launched a year-end promotion on buying points. Not only is the cost per purchased point very reasonable, but you can potentially earn valuable oneworld elite status with this offer, all the way up to top-tier oneworld Emerald status.

While I think I’ve blown through my points buying budget for the year, I’m still really tempted by this… 😉

Buy Finnair Plus points with 100% bonus

Through Monday, December 27, 2021, Finnair Plus is offering up to a 100% bonus on purchased points. The bonus is tiered, as follows:

  • Buy 5,000-49,000 points, get a 40% bonus
  • Buy 50,000-99,000 points, get a 60% bonus
  • Buy 100,000-149,000 points, get an 80% bonus
  • Buy 150,000-200,000 points, get a 100% bonus

Ordinarily Finnair charges as little as 1.2875 cents (in EUR) per purchased point. If you purchased 200,000 points through this promotion (pre-bonus), you’d receive a total of 400,000 points at a cost of 2,575 EUR (~$2909), which is a rate of ~0.73 cents (in USD) per point. That’s a spectacularly low cost at which to acquire points, and for that matter it’s the lowest cost at which virtually any airline program sells points.

Finnair Plus is offering a 100% bonus on purchased points

Receive elite status when you buy Finnair Plus points

This Finnair Plus promotion can also help you earn elite status. For context:

In addition to receiving up to a 100% bonus on purchased points, you also receive bonus tier points equal to 25% of the total transaction amount. In other words, if you purchased 200,000 points and received 400,000 points with the 100% bonus, you’d also receive 100,000 tier points.

On top of that, Finnair Plus offers a points exchange option, whereby you can convert Finnair Plus points into Finnair Plus tier points:

  • Finnair Plus points can be converted into Finnair Plus tier points at a 3:1 ratio
  • You can’t exchange more than half of the tier points needed to maintain status using this method (which you wouldn’t be doing here, since more than half of the points are being earned through the promotion on purchased points, rather than the points exchange option)
  • You can exchange points in batches of 5,000 tier points, and there’s a service charge of 10 EUR per transaction

In other words, you could buy 400,000 points for $2,909, and then you’d receive 100,000 tier points (enough for Finnair Gold). This gets you oneworld Sapphire status, which would get you American Flagship Lounge access even on domestic itineraries. Then you could convert 150,000 points into 50,000 tier points, which is enough for Finnair Platinum, and you’d still be left with 250,000 points.

When all is said and done, you’d be paying $2,909 and would have top-tier oneworld Emerald status, plus 250,000 Finnair Plus points. On top of that, Finnair Platinum members receive two one-way upgrade vouchers, valid for intercontinental flights. That’s an intriguing offer, if you ask me.

Access Flagship Lounges with oneworld status

Which credit card should you buy Finnair Plus points with?

Finnair Plus points purchases are processed by points.com, meaning they don’t count as an airfare purchase for the purposes of credit card spending. Therefore I’d recommend using a card on which you’re trying to reach minimum spending, or otherwise, a credit card that maximizes your return on everyday spending.

In this case the best option is the Capital One Venture Rewards Credit Card (review) or Capital One Venture X Rewards Credit Card (review), which offer 2x miles and have no foreign transaction fees. Usually the Chase Freedom Unlimited® (review) or Citi® Double Cash Card (review) would also be good options for maximizing everyday spending, but the cards have foreign transaction fees, so wouldn’t be a good option in this case.

Personally I consider the Capital One Venture X to offer a 3.4% return on spending. So if you want to do the math differently, that lowers the real cost per purchased point from ~0.73 cents per point to ~0.7 cents.

Finnair Platinum Wing Helsinki

Is buying Finnair Plus points worth it?

I’d say that ~0.73 cents per point is quite a low acquisition cost, and that’s not even factoring in the potential value of status. While Finnair Plus more of a niche program, there are plenty of situations where you can get value when you consider the cost of points acquisition here.

Finnair Plus points can be used for upgrades from economy to business class, which is a good use of points, given the limited fare class restrictions. The cost of upgrades ranges from 7,500 points to 50,000 points one-way, depending on how far you’re flying.

If you’re in a situation where you have a paid economy ticket on Finnair, buying points in order to upgrade could be an exceptional value.

Upgrade Finnair flights starting at 7,500 points

If you want to outright redeem for an award ticket on Finnair, the Finnair Plus program also has pretty good award pricing, with no fuel surcharges. For example, a one-way transatlantic flight will cost you 80,000 points.

At an acquisition cost of 0.73 cents per point, that’s like paying ~$585 for a one-way transatlantic business class ticket, which is awesome. Keep in mind that Finnair now also operates transatlantic flights out of Stockholm, and award availability is quite good to boot.

Redeem points for Finnair’s A350 business class

You can also redeem for partner airline flights, including on other oneworld airlines, though in general that’s not going to be a great value. Finnair has different award charts for different partners.

Just to give some examples, here’s the one-way award chart for travel on American Airlines:

Then here’s the one-way award chart for travel on Cathay Pacific:

If you ask me, there’s not a whole lot to get excited about here for partner award redemptions. 27,000 points for a domestic one-way economy award on American, or 180,000 points for a US to Asia one-way first class award on Cathay Pacific, aren’t exactly great deals.

In many cases you’d be better off buying miles through Alaska Mileage Plan or American AAdvantage at a discount. Then again, at the rate at which Finnair Plus is selling points, it’s kind of hard to go wrong.

Finnair Plus partner redemptions aren’t a great deal

For how long is Finnair Plus status valid?

Finnair doesn’t use a traditional calendar year for status qualification, but rather uses status tracking periods. Status is historically valid for the tracking period in which it’s earned, plus a further 12 months. For example, my status tracking period ends August 31, 2022, so I would assume that status would be valid through August 31, 2023.

Also note that during the pandemic, Finnair has provided tracking period status extensions a few times, and it’s possible that will happen again, in which case status would be valid even longer.

I’m tempted by this promotion

I really shouldn’t even be considering this, given how much money I just spent on buying American AAdvantage miles. However, I can’t help but be tempted. I guess there are paths to take.

I could buy 320,000 Finnair Plus points for $2,326:

  • The 320,000 points would be enough for two roundtrip business class tickets on Finnair between the United States and Europe
  • I’d earn Finnair Gold, which offers oneworld Sapphire status

Alternatively I could buy 400,000 Finnair Plus points for $2,909:

  • I’d convert 150,000 of those points into tier points, and then I would earn Finnair Platinum, which offers oneworld Emerald
  • That would leave me with 250,000 points, plus Finnair Platinum, which also offers two upgrade vouchers valid for long haul flights

I’m already oneworld Emerald through American AAdvantage, so what would the advantage be of having status through another program?

  • If you have oneworld Sapphire or Emerald through a non-US frequent flyer program then you can access Alaska Lounges, American Admirals Clubs, and American Flagship Lounges, even when traveling exclusively on a domestic oneworld flight
  • If you have oneworld Emerald through a non-US frequent flyer program then you can access American Flagship First Check-In, even when traveling exclusively on a domestic oneworld flight

The major catch for those who have American AAdvantage status is that it’s a bit of a pain to use perks with another program while having your AAdvantage number on your reservation:

  • If you want to get upgrades or earn AAdvantage miles, you’ll need to have your AAdvantage number on the reservation
  • Technically you should be able to use Flagship First Check-In with your Finnair oneworld Emerald status, but your name won’t be on the list of invited guests, and it will likely be more hassle than it’s worth
  • You should be able to access American Flagship Lounges (and other oneworld lounges) by showing your card, but some agents might be confused, and some might mess up your reservation and accidentally remove your AAdvantage number

Those are just some cautions to be aware of if you do consider this.

I’ll think over this promotion for a few days, but I am somewhat tempted. I think the math works out based on buying the points alone, and then the status is the icing on the cake. If I were to take advantage of this promotion, I’d probably buy the 320,000 points for $2,326. I’d view it as buying two roundtrip transatlantic business class tickets for under $1,200 each, and I’d get Flagship Lounge access on domestic flights for 20 months as an added perk.

Use Flagship First Check-in as a oneworld Emerald member

Bottom line

Finnair Plus has launched a year-end promotion on purchasing points, and it has the potential to be a great deal. First of all, the program is offering up to a 100% bonus, which is an opportunity to buy points for 0.73 cents each. That’s potentially a good deal, when you consider that one-way transatlantic business class awards cost 80,000 points.

On top of that you can earn elite status. You earn elite points equal to 25% of the total miles acquired, so if you buy at least 320,000 points, you’ll automatically receive Finnair Gold, which gets you oneworld Sapphire status. On top of that, you can convert Finnair Plus points into elite points at the rate of 3:1, providing an easy pathway all the way up to oneworld Emerald status.

Does anyone plan on taking advantage of this promo on Finnair Plus points?

(Tip of the hat to YHBU)

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  1. Cesar Guest

    Hi, I bought the 200k points on Dec 27th as suggested but only 200k extra Award points were added to my account. I’m still missing the 100k Tier points that would enable me the status level.
    Does anybody had this issue?
    Thanks.

  2. Shawn M Ehmann Guest

    Is this still live? I didn't see anything saying it's dead??

  3. CN Guest

    I purchased mine on 26th Dec, everything went fine with credit card authentication and received a receipt instantly, however they canceled my transaction on 28th Dec with an email with no reason behind - just couldn't complete the transaction. :(

    I used my family member's card to purchase and she lives in a different address, which is different to my mailing address on my profile. The Customer Service team said this could be the reason...

    I purchased mine on 26th Dec, everything went fine with credit card authentication and received a receipt instantly, however they canceled my transaction on 28th Dec with an email with no reason behind - just couldn't complete the transaction. :(

    I used my family member's card to purchase and she lives in a different address, which is different to my mailing address on my profile. The Customer Service team said this could be the reason but they need to wait for the FinnAir plus team to find out the real reason.

    I wish they had communicated this earlier to me, so that I could re-purchase the points under the promotion.

    I have been trying to get in touch with them, and hopefully they will honour this.

  4. LawrenceB Guest

    Not using. There doesn’t seem to be any award flights available DFW-HEL ‍♂️

  5. Jon Guest

    Can anyone help? Much appreciated! I wanted to know how to use OW Sapphire benefits (e.g. AA lounges, preferred seats selections, priority boarding) earned through Finnair when flying AA or Alaska domestic flights. I do want to credit miles to AA or Alaksa instead of Finnair. If AA or Alaska FF# are on my booking, how do I use OW Sapphire benefits earned from Finnair? I do not have status with AA or Alaska. Thanks!

  6. Jen C Guest

    The Finnair website shows the 100% bonus promo for up to 200K points, but it maxes out how many points I can buy to 150K. Maybe the December 27 cutoff is based on Finnish time zones because it's only 4:00 pm Pacific Time in the USA and I can't buy more than 150K at this time. Ugh I waited too long.

    1. Daz Guest

      Yeah the cut off was 2359hrs Helsinki Time on 27 Dec 2021

  7. Sonny Guest

    I bought 160k + 160k bonus but the points doesn't appear on my account,
    I recived and email confirming the purchase "Thank you for your recent purchase of Finnair Plus points. You will be notified when the points have been credited to your account. Your purchase is summarized below:"

    But no news about the points in my account, The amunt was already well charged on my credit card.
    My Finnair acount is new...

    I bought 160k + 160k bonus but the points doesn't appear on my account,
    I recived and email confirming the purchase "Thank you for your recent purchase of Finnair Plus points. You will be notified when the points have been credited to your account. Your purchase is summarized below:"

    But no news about the points in my account, The amunt was already well charged on my credit card.
    My Finnair acount is new created yesterday. I think this might be an issue with new accounts.

    I'm afraid the points get acredited on Jan 2022 and I could not convert award points to tier points to upgrade from Gold to Platinum.
    Any suggest?

    thanks

    1. BG Hill Guest

      I had the same issue. I bought the miles on the last day of 27th and got a confirmation email of the fact it was bought, but they are not showing in my account more than 13 hours later. No answer at online customer service chat (just say it is busy come back later which I have done 2 times). I am gathering/hoping the system is overloaded or something of the sort and will be...

      I had the same issue. I bought the miles on the last day of 27th and got a confirmation email of the fact it was bought, but they are not showing in my account more than 13 hours later. No answer at online customer service chat (just say it is busy come back later which I have done 2 times). I am gathering/hoping the system is overloaded or something of the sort and will be fixed shortly. My wife bought this offer a few days ago but her points and status was credited instantly.

    2. BG Hill Guest

      Forgot to say that my account was with Finnair Plus is also new. So this might be something to do with new accounts. My wife's account was not new.

    3. AOH New Member

      I created my account Dec 27 and bought miles right away. I received the confirmation email within a few mins, and the points & Gold status appeared immediately after. The only problem I had was on the page where you convert award points to tier points- it wasn't showing my miles or status. I reset my browser and logged in again, and it was all fixed- perhaps try that or try using a different browser

    4. BG Hill Guest

      Thanks for your input. I tried this too but it doesn't work. Not sure why it is not showing. Nothing showing and not possible to reach Finnair CS.

    5. D L Guest

      Same here - I purchased 190k +190k on 27 Dec 2021. Received purchase confirmation and receipt at 842pm Helsinki time so it’s well within the terms and conditions of the promotion. Account created 27 Dec and the total of 380k points only posted 25 hours later on 28 Dec at 940pm but the bonus tier points didn’t come through. rang them up earlier today - first call said bonus points will post with points even...

      Same here - I purchased 190k +190k on 27 Dec 2021. Received purchase confirmation and receipt at 842pm Helsinki time so it’s well within the terms and conditions of the promotion. Account created 27 Dec and the total of 380k points only posted 25 hours later on 28 Dec at 940pm but the bonus tier points didn’t come through. rang them up earlier today - first call said bonus points will post with points even if would be posted later…second call, customer rep from platinum line pretended not to know of the promotion and after much insistence (and repeatedly explaining that I have a receipt for the purchase on 27 Dec ), he finally said he would send an email to the Finnair Plus department to look into it and the bonus tier points should be awarded if the transaction receipt shows that points were purchased within the promo period as per terms abs conditions.

      As a side note, I know my brother purchased this too on 21 Dec 11pm helsinki time and it was posted right away.

      @sonny/BG Hill: what time was your transaction? It appears they may have had a “cut off” instant posting of points on the last day of the promo….

    6. BG Hill Guest

      Hi DL. Good to hear about your situation. My transaction was about lunchtime in Finland on the 27th, so well within the time frame for the promotion. As an update, the miles have been posted to my account in the last few hours, but not the Gold tier status yet. I think the status will probably show a bit later on given it is a new account. Seems new accounts take a bit longer to show points as well as the status. Now just waiting for the Gold Status.

    7. Sonnyq Guest

      @D L My account is also new. I made the purchase 27th Dec at 19:34hs Helsinski Time. When I recived the purchase confirmation. And that I was going to recive an email notification when the would been credited in my account

      The good news is that today I recived a new email at 20:27hs Helsinski time where the base and the bonus award points has been credited. But the bad news NO tier points and no elite status upgraded.

    8. D L Guest

      Hey @Sonnyq and @BG Hill:

      Ok, so I had to call FINNAIR CS rep to manually post the bonus tier points - as long as your purchase receipt was for 27 Dec 2021 and within the promo timeframe, they will post it. my bonus tier points came through after that 3rd call to them and all good now - my points posted on 28 dec and bonus tier points came through on 29 Dec.

      How are you going with your situation - did you receive your bonus tier points already as of today 30 Dec?

    9. Sonny Guest

      They add the award points to my account. But not the tier points...which I had to contact them thru the chat channel and explained the issue. That add the tier points 10 mins later.
      But I had to wiat more than 1:30hs on the queue to be attended by an customer service agent.

      Now the matter is to convert 70k tier points when the website let you just convert up to 45k

    10. Daz Guest

      Same here - I purchased 190k +190k on 27 Dec 2021. Received purchase confirmation and receipt at 842pm Helsinki time so it’s well within the terms and conditions of the promotion. Account created 27 Dec and the total of 380k points only posted 25 hours later on 28 Dec at 940pm but the bonus tier points didn’t come through. rang them up earlier today - first call said bonus points will post with points even...

      Same here - I purchased 190k +190k on 27 Dec 2021. Received purchase confirmation and receipt at 842pm Helsinki time so it’s well within the terms and conditions of the promotion. Account created 27 Dec and the total of 380k points only posted 25 hours later on 28 Dec at 940pm but the bonus tier points didn’t come through. rang them up earlier today - first call said bonus points will post with points even if would be posted later…second call, customer rep from platinum line pretended not to know of the promotion and after much insistence (and repeatedly explaining that I have a receipt for the purchase on 27 Dec ), he finally said he would send an email to the Finnair Plus department to look into it and the bonus tier points should be awarded if the transaction receipt shows that points were purchased within the promo period as per terms abs conditions.

      As a side note, I know my brother purchased this too on 21 Dec 11pm helsinki time and it was posted right away.

      @sonny: what time was your transaction? It appears they may have had a “cut off” instant posting of points on the last day of the promo….

    11. CN Guest

      How did you go with yours? I purchased mine on 26th Dec, everything went fine with credit card authentication and received a receipt instantly, however they canceled my transaction on 28th Dec with an email with no reason behind - just couldn't complete the transaction. :(

      I used my family member's card to purchase and she lives in a different address, which is different to my mailing address on my profile. The Customer Service team...

      How did you go with yours? I purchased mine on 26th Dec, everything went fine with credit card authentication and received a receipt instantly, however they canceled my transaction on 28th Dec with an email with no reason behind - just couldn't complete the transaction. :(

      I used my family member's card to purchase and she lives in a different address, which is different to my mailing address on my profile. The Customer Service team said this could be the reason as they need to wait for the FinnAir plus team to find out the real reason.

      I wish they had communicated this earlier to me, so that I could re-purchase the points under the promotion.

      I have been trying to get in touch with them, and hopefully they will honour this.

  8. Nick Guest

    Is anyone having issues purchasing the points? I keep getting an "Error: There was a problem with your authentication information, please try again" when I try to use my mastercard.

    Thanks for the help,
    Nick

    1. Jen C Guest

      I wasn't even able to get more than 150K as a purchase option. Were you trying to buy 200K points?

  9. Edward Carp Guest

    So I did exactly as you suggested. I bought 200,000 points for $2,909. It immediately gave me Finnair Plus Gold status and 400,000 points, with 100,000 tier points. However when I went to exchange 150,000 regular points to 50,000 tier points, it would only allow me to exchange a maximum of 45,000 points. Now I only have 265,000 points to use and not enough tier points to get to platinum or oneworld emerald....where did I...

    So I did exactly as you suggested. I bought 200,000 points for $2,909. It immediately gave me Finnair Plus Gold status and 400,000 points, with 100,000 tier points. However when I went to exchange 150,000 regular points to 50,000 tier points, it would only allow me to exchange a maximum of 45,000 points. Now I only have 265,000 points to use and not enough tier points to get to platinum or oneworld emerald....where did I go wrong? Or did they change the rules?

    Thanks, Ed

    1. Edward Carp Guest

      actually nevermind....originally it was telling me I had exchanged the maximum number of miles, but now it has allowed me to purchase the final allotment of 5,000 miles, and I am platinum/emerald.

  10. Quiroga48 New Member

    How many points do I need to buy to get to One World Ruby? Can I modify a reservation from American Airlines Advantage number to a Finnair Plus number after I have purchased the tickets with American Airlines? Thank you so much for your help.

  11. Adrienne Guest

    I see on Finnair's site where it say the points expire 18 months after the member has not earned or redeemed points. We are not sure we will be able to redeem these miles soon because of a lot of travel that is already planned. Can we keep our account active by purchasing more points? Thanks in advance!

    1. Edward Carp Guest

      Can I use finnair miles and upgrade certificates on other oneworld airlines?

  12. b2g_travel New Member

    Thank you for sharing this, along with your insights. I also read TPG's take.

    My wife are still relatively new to the points game, but are actively working towards points for Business Class trips to the Maldives and Malaga, Spain. Both would be from Chicago.

    I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on buying 200,000pts, as the AA Lounge access would be helpful in Chicago when we're not flying out of the international terminal (We have...

    Thank you for sharing this, along with your insights. I also read TPG's take.

    My wife are still relatively new to the points game, but are actively working towards points for Business Class trips to the Maldives and Malaga, Spain. Both would be from Chicago.

    I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on buying 200,000pts, as the AA Lounge access would be helpful in Chicago when we're not flying out of the international terminal (We have Amex Platinum but ORD is still without a Concierge Lounge SMH).

    Would welcome thoughts on whether it would be possible to 1) book RT ORD-AGP and/or ORD-MLE, Business Class, with the other itinerary being Economy (if necessary) with the possibility of using the upgrades.

    Thanks in advance for comments and suggestions!

    1. BBK Diamond

      You mean VFTW? b/c I searched on TPG's site and couldn't find any article on this.

  13. JZz Guest

    I bought 200000 points, but only was given a silver status? Does anyone know how long will it take to automatically upgrade from silver to gold? I do see I have 100000 tier points in my account. Thanks!

    1. BBK Diamond

      Thanks for sharing this. I'm still undecided. Any update on you case? that would be greatly appreciated.

    2. JZz Guest

      Not yet, it is still silver. I think they are on holidays right now. I did try to talk to them on the phone or message them online. But have not yet gotten any responses.

    3. Sam Guest

      BBK- I responded to you in the other One Mile At a Time thread and I did this for my wife today and everything went as planned. Got the 400,000 miles and Gold Status was instant. Used 150,000 miles to convert to 50,000 Tier and Platinum was Instant. I did not experience any issues on miles, tiers or status not posting or posting incorrectly. Good luck if you pull the trigger

    4. BBK Diamond

      Thank very much for reporting Sam, I was just reading the other post. I pulled the trigger early morning today, nothing posted yet (maybe normal security screening because i'm paying with my US credit card, US address in the just created Finnair acct, but at the moment my IP is in another country). I'm really hoping for the outcome reported by Rock, but yeah maybe i'm expecting too much :) I'll report the result once my transaction is posted.

    5. BBK Diamond

      Data point. Pulled the trigger Dec-24 in the morning, points posted some 15 minutes ago (more than 24 hours later) as originally expected 400K redeemable and 100K tier. Was really hoping for Rock & Guernsey result. Wanted plat and OWE but thanks to other insightful opinions of other commenters like Eskimo, i'm not finding real value to burn 150K redeemable for the additional benefits. May decide later.

    6. Sonny Guest

      Would apreciate any news about your case.
      Thanks pal

  14. JZ Guest

    I bought 200000 points, but only was given a silver status? Does anyone know how long will it take to automatically upgrade from silver to gold? I do see I have 100000 tier points in my account. Thanks!

  15. Eric Pease Guest

    12/22 data point. purchased 320k miles and they appeared immediately in my FinnAir account. We're in for 2 r/t biz tix from LAX to Helsinki - with side trips to Tallinn Estonia and St Petersburg Russia. I'm back in the USSR! thanks for sharing this deal.

  16. Steven W Guest

    Lucrative opportunity, thank you. Bought the 400,000 with bonus, booked round trip fall J to Europe and have 3 80,000 J redemptions remaining. As well have saved several hundred on AA seat selection as a result of OW Sapphire status. My $3,000 outlay has produced, to date, a currently priced $7,500 J redemption, 3 80k redemptions remaining, $200 AA savings, & year plus OW status. A blog post worth it’s weight in gold (plus).

    1. Ann D Guest

      What is your departure city? Our closest hub for Finnair is Miami direct. We were excited for this opportunity until further investigation shows they only fly to Miami nonstop for limited times of the year (winter Nov/Dec to late Mar/early April) All other awards for us would be partner awards and difficult to find at great redemptions.
      We can opt for Miami/ FLL/ WPB/MCO as departure for Europe basically to cruise over/back and take...

      What is your departure city? Our closest hub for Finnair is Miami direct. We were excited for this opportunity until further investigation shows they only fly to Miami nonstop for limited times of the year (winter Nov/Dec to late Mar/early April) All other awards for us would be partner awards and difficult to find at great redemptions.
      We can opt for Miami/ FLL/ WPB/MCO as departure for Europe basically to cruise over/back and take these points for one wat transport.

    2. Steve S Guest

      Hi Ann D;

      JFK - Stockholm and return Helsinki - JFK. I'm in Florida as well and was disappointed with their seasonal scheduling too but lemonade outta lemons I guess. Positioned myself to NYC via AA day before and maybe will enjoy the new TWA Hotel as a bucket list item. Also, NYC in the fall makes it all the better. As for the Miami seasonal scheduling, maybe I'll follow this trip up with another to the arctic circle in winter to sleep under the Aurora Borealis.

  17. Lorenzo Guest

    Are you sure about AA? On the italian website, i see:
    Europa-Sud America (con scalo negli Stati Uniti) 240.000 340.000 460.000

    1. Sonny Guest

      Ciao Lorenzo...per chi era il tuo messagio?
      AA fa sempre scalo negli Stati Uniti a meno che faccia uso del 5th freedom. Ma non ce ne 5th freedom in Sudamerica.

  18. Kim Guest

    Did anyone try to upgrade an economy ticket with connecting flights like AUS-DFW (AA) and DFW-HEL (AY) ?

    Is it even possible to use the vouchers/points on such a connection or can only direct flights be upgraded?

  19. Schlingu Guest

    Bought 320000 points and redeemed immediately for 4 ow tickets ZRH-HEL-HND for october 2022. excellence deal, thank you

  20. Ferdinand Magellan Guest

    Who can use the transatlantic upgrades? Does it have to be the member, or can it be a travel companion or any designee of the member?

    Do any of the airline/travel bonus credit cards code this is such? Would this get 5x miles on Platinum Amex, Citi Prestige, etc.?

    I understand that this is subjective, but is it worth it to expend 150,000 miles for the higher status? I see lounge access and two more...

    Who can use the transatlantic upgrades? Does it have to be the member, or can it be a travel companion or any designee of the member?

    Do any of the airline/travel bonus credit cards code this is such? Would this get 5x miles on Platinum Amex, Citi Prestige, etc.?

    I understand that this is subjective, but is it worth it to expend 150,000 miles for the higher status? I see lounge access and two more transatlantic upgrades out of it (for you and your gold designee). The cost, under this promo, is around $1000. Is that a good deal?

  21. Daniel Guest

    Searching the Finnair website, connecting flights on award tickets seem to be an additional cost. For example, in business flying on Finnair, a one-way flight in business from New York to Helsinki costs 80k points but from New York to Rome with a connection in Helsinki costs 105k points. That means that coming from the USA, unless you plan to visit Helsinki or Stockholm a lot, award flights to European destinations are 15-30% more expensive...

    Searching the Finnair website, connecting flights on award tickets seem to be an additional cost. For example, in business flying on Finnair, a one-way flight in business from New York to Helsinki costs 80k points but from New York to Rome with a connection in Helsinki costs 105k points. That means that coming from the USA, unless you plan to visit Helsinki or Stockholm a lot, award flights to European destinations are 15-30% more expensive than the chart would suggest when comparing with miles redemptions from other airlines (eg. AA) that include connecting flights in the price.

    1. VitaliU Guest

      One more thing to take into account: if your get Platinum, one of the perks is being able to gift Gold (Sapphire) to someone else.

    2. VitaliU Guest

      One more thing to take into account: if your get Platinum, one of the perks is being able to gift Gold (Sapphire) to someone else.

  22. ROBERT Guest

    Thanks so much Ben,
    Was already AY Gold and purchased the full amount of 200k miles, got the bonus 200k miles, and 100k Tier points. I needed to convert only 15k miles to receive 5k Tier points and qualify from Gold to Platinum, and my Platinum Status is valid until end of Jan 2024.
    Brilliant offer, cheers!

  23. KP Guest

    Is it possible to buy an AY economy ticket, use the upgrade vouchers to upgrade to business class, but before flying switch out the FF # to my AA one? I'm not particularly keen to credit any of my flying to AY, and still want to maintain AA EXP even if I take advantage of this offer...

    1. Daniel from Finland Guest

      It is possible, and you should earn AA miles according to the original booking class. However, this might involve retroclaims as such flights often show up as 0 miles due to the updated booking class (U does not earn miles). When retroclaiming, you need to explain in detail what it is about and ask them to look up the original booking class.

  24. Joe-SC1 Guest

    Conversely to Ben's statement of the status only being the icing on the cake, if one is ONLY interested in the status (for AA lounge access, for example), then I believe buying 100,000 points before bonus will be the lowest total cost to achieve Gold/Sapphire. Buying 100,000 with 80% bonus gives 180,000 award points and 45,000 tier points. Then convert 105,000 of the award points to 35,000 tier points. You now have 80,000 tier points...

    Conversely to Ben's statement of the status only being the icing on the cake, if one is ONLY interested in the status (for AA lounge access, for example), then I believe buying 100,000 points before bonus will be the lowest total cost to achieve Gold/Sapphire. Buying 100,000 with 80% bonus gives 180,000 award points and 45,000 tier points. Then convert 105,000 of the award points to 35,000 tier points. You now have 80,000 tier points and 75,000 award points left over. (If the "half of tier points" restriction wasn't in place, you could even buy down at the 88,000 point level!) So a new member buying at the 100,000 point level would get AA Flagship & Admirals lounge access for two years for approximately $1500 or so - I haven't joined yet, so I don't know the exact cost. Another potential play is buying at the 150,000 point level. The same math would apply and give you Platinum/Emerald IF your converted tier points will allow you to move up two levels. You'd not run afoul of the "half of tier points" rule, and you'd end up with 150,000 tier points for Platinum/Emerald, but you'd start at Silver/Ruby.

  25. VitaliU Guest

    Thanks, Lucky! I am now a OW Sapphire through December 2023 and have a 250K points left.
    For those asking about converting regular points to tier ones. You can do it online yourself in two transactions. The only downside is the additional Eur10 you end up paying for the second transaction

    1. VitaliU Guest

      I mean, Emerald, not Sapphire. Which is handy, since I am letting my ExPlat status expire with AA this year

    2. Matt Guest

      Two online transactions? Why only Eur10 for the second one? Wouldn't both cost Eur10 each?

    3. LT Guest

      @Matt. I think he means first transaction is purchasing while second one is converting. I may be wrong though.

    4. Eddie Guest

      You can only convert online by yourself once per tracking period. Have you tried to convert twice by yourself online now? Or when was the last time you did that?

    5. Sonny Guest

      Hi VitaliU....why you need to make it in 2 transactions?
      Why can't you just convert all the regular points you need into tier ones at one shot?
      Thanks

  26. John L Guest

    Does anyone know if the two one-way class upgrades can be used for the member and a companion on one flight? Or can they only be used by the status holder on two different flights?

    1. AY Guest

      Yes, they can be used on one or on two different flights.

  27. glenn t Diamond

    What event triggers your tracking start date?
    I assume you'd need to already be a member of their FFP and eligible to buy miles now to take advantage of this promotion.

    1. Ryan Guest

      I only joined today, and it allowed me to purchase. My tracking period start date is December and my status (immediately Gold) shows as being valid through to 31 December 2023.

  28. Blaz Guest

    Did you factor this rule into your calculations ?."Please note that exchanged points cannot make more than half of the tier points needed to maintain your current tier or to move up to the next one."

  29. SSSSS Guest

    This deal is even better than you would think. If you have no status and join the program your tracking period of one year starts now. You buy 200.000 points, get 400.000 points and 100.000 tier points.

    This converts your current period to gold status and you receive 4 SH business upgrade vouchers. Then you convert 150.000 points to 50.000 tier points and reach platinum. Now you get the Platinum awards of 4SH and...

    This deal is even better than you would think. If you have no status and join the program your tracking period of one year starts now. You buy 200.000 points, get 400.000 points and 100.000 tier points.

    This converts your current period to gold status and you receive 4 SH business upgrade vouchers. Then you convert 150.000 points to 50.000 tier points and reach platinum. Now you get the Platinum awards of 4SH and 2LH vouchers on top of that.

    The thing is that when you achieve a new status level it converts your current period to that status and you immediately receive the benefits. But the actual level starts after your current period, so after the current period ends your next 12 month period will start as platinum and you will receive again those 2+4 vouchers.

    So in total you will have 2 years of platinum and 4+12 vouchers. Finnair also has an unofficial softlanding system, which means that if you don't earn enough tierpoints, you only drop one level, so you will have a 3rd year at gold status, meaning 4 more SH vouchers also. And a 4th year of silver, although that is quite worthless. Also with platinum you can gift a gold card, so you can give 2 years of gold for your partner, friend or whatever and they get 4SH vouchers too. So in total you will get 4LH and 20SH upgrades. Well to use 20 upgrades in Europe means you would have fly a lot, but keep reading.

    So this would leave you with 250.000 reward points. Finnair also has this great possibility to change 4SH vouchers for an 2 for the points of 1 reward flights. So a LH flight costs normally 90.000 points, but you can use your 4 vouchers to get a flight for two for 90.000 points. So in your first year with 180k points and 8 vouchers you could get 4 LH flights, almost worth what you paid for this point deal and you will still have 70k points left. And you can use your vouchers to fly 2 times in business. Next year you can buy some more points, or earn points and get a third flight and again upgrade.

    Finnair removed the fuel surcharges, so the taxes on those award flights is just 50€ per person. But this are only usable for Finnair flights, so you if you don't live in Finland you have to use them to fly to HEL and back and possible continue forward, but that would be a new flight and require same points and vouchers. But you could do like JFK-HEL and then buy flights to somewhere else in Europe.

    They had a similiar deal a year ago, I took it. They extended twice the durations of statuses, so I still have 2 years of platinum left. Been really happy with the deal.

    1. Daniel Guest

      Can you clarify what you said about "after the current period ends your next 12 month period will start as platinum and you will receive again those 2+4 vouchers" using some example dates?

      For example, if you join Plus on 27 Dec 2021 and qualify for Plat on that same day, then does the "current period" end on 26 Dec 2022 and then the "next 12 month period" begins? If so, then per those dates,...

      Can you clarify what you said about "after the current period ends your next 12 month period will start as platinum and you will receive again those 2+4 vouchers" using some example dates?

      For example, if you join Plus on 27 Dec 2021 and qualify for Plat on that same day, then does the "current period" end on 26 Dec 2022 and then the "next 12 month period" begins? If so, then per those dates, would vouchers arrive on 27 Dec 2021 and then an additional set of vouchers arrive on 27 Dec 2022? (with expiration 1-year from date of issue)

      I am asking this because I think the timing of the upgrades and the expiration dates matter considering the upgrades are capacity controlled and the number of people who will probably take this offer. I highly prefer to use upgrades on intercontinental flights and I'm not sure it would be possible to use them all within the next year.

    2. SSSSS Guest

      Yes that is how it would work. So AY+ periods are not calendar years but 12 months from joining. As soon as you reach tierpoints you will receive the new status. You get all the perks. So buying this deal will get you to gold and 4SH vouchers. But this does not break your period and start a 12month elite year. It upgrades you current period and you have still until end of period to...

      Yes that is how it would work. So AY+ periods are not calendar years but 12 months from joining. As soon as you reach tierpoints you will receive the new status. You get all the perks. So buying this deal will get you to gold and 4SH vouchers. But this does not break your period and start a 12month elite year. It upgrades you current period and you have still until end of period to reach higher status, and if you do this point exchange, you will get platinum and immediately 2LH+4SH vouchers and you can immediately gift gold and they receive immediately the 4SH vouchers and status for one year. But you are still on your first period and collect more to even reach Lumo.

      But if in your 12 months you can't collect enough for Lumo, your new period starts and you earned platinum last period so you will start that period as platinum and receive again 2+4 vouchers and a gold to gift. But now you are on 0 tierpoints and have 12 months to collect enough to keep status for the following 12 months.

      This deal is an unique way to get immediately those needed points and in best case scenario you will have 2 full one year periods of platinum with this just one points purchase. I did this deal last year and I still have 2 years of platinum left as Finnair twice extended the periods with 6 months. So I am still on the first period where I reached platinum and one year left of that, then new period and vouchers.

    3. BBK Diamond

      Wonderful in depth insights! you are really helpful, Thank You!

    4. Sonny Guest

      @SSSSS a dumb question....it's not possible to use the SH upgrade voucher on an Iberia (or any other WO airline) ticket right?

      Thanks

  30. ExSoviet Guest

    Very tempting. However, award availability for premium redemption with AY is NON EXISTENT.....Any concern about that?

  31. Matt Perchick Guest

    Unfortunately, you are only allowed to buy up to 45k tier points and that leaves you 5k short of platinum status.

    1. Matt Guest

      I bought 45k and 5k in two online transactions. All worked fine, Platinum status was instant.

    2. LT Guest

      I did 2 transactions online. I had to wait for a while before the second transaction, but it was doable. Good luck!

  32. Daniel Guest

    Trying to figure out whether the marginal benefit for Platinum versus Gold is really worth cashing in 150k points. The key difference seems to be first class lounge and check-in access (versus biz class for Gold) on economy tickets, and 2 long-haul + 4 short-haul upgrades (versus 4 short-haul for Gold). That means that Platinum actually gets 2 more long-haul upgrades than Gold because it's possible to convert the 4 short-haul upgrades to 1 long-haul...

    Trying to figure out whether the marginal benefit for Platinum versus Gold is really worth cashing in 150k points. The key difference seems to be first class lounge and check-in access (versus biz class for Gold) on economy tickets, and 2 long-haul + 4 short-haul upgrades (versus 4 short-haul for Gold). That means that Platinum actually gets 2 more long-haul upgrades than Gold because it's possible to convert the 4 short-haul upgrades to 1 long-haul upgrade. However, as Gold, you could spend only 100k points instead of 150k points to upgrade those 2 long-haul flights directly with points. Additionally, unless I understand the rules incorrectly, the LH/SH upgrades only upgrade one single flight segment, while upgrading with points also includes connecting flights. Also, unlike points, the certificate upgrades expire after a year. Given that upgrades are capacity controlled, the limited number of Finnair long-haul flights from the USA, and the number of people who will have upgrades expiring in the next year after this offer is finished, I'm not sure if it would even be possible to use all the upgrades before they expire. Therefore, it seems to me that upgrades using points are more valuable than upgrades using certificates. As a result, the lounge and check-in needs to be worth at least the extra 50k points that it would cost for to go Platinum versus upgrading as Gold using points. I would value an additional long-haul upgrade for 50k points over lounge and check-in, so Gold might be a better option for me.

    1. LT Guest

      "Matt Guest
      December 18, 2021, 9:01 pm
      I bought 45k and 5k in two online transactions. All worked fine, Platinum status was instant."

  33. Ryan Guest

    I just purchased the full amount and the points posted to my account immediately, and status has been updated to Gold. However when I go to convert points, it seems to limit this to 45,000 tier points. Is anyone else getting that? Seems odd. Thanks in advance for any help :)

    1. Leo Guest

      I have the same exact issue. was wondering if i can transfer points in 2 separate transactions (45,000 + 5,000) but want to confirm first i can do 2 separate transactions or if there is a one time limit. any help would be great too :)

    2. Ryan Guest

      Thats what I was thinking! The website seems to suggest only one online conversion can be done each year/period... but that additional ones can be done via their customer service channels. I wonder if once you buy the 45,000 they automatically convert, or if you have to 'trigger' the conversion manually after purchase (i.e. if it is the latter, then buying 45k and then 5k over two transactions, and then triggering the conversion, might work?)....

      Thats what I was thinking! The website seems to suggest only one online conversion can be done each year/period... but that additional ones can be done via their customer service channels. I wonder if once you buy the 45,000 they automatically convert, or if you have to 'trigger' the conversion manually after purchase (i.e. if it is the latter, then buying 45k and then 5k over two transactions, and then triggering the conversion, might work?). Otherwise I guess we can just reach out to them to do the additional one that would be required. Still, what a stunning deal though.

    3. Leo Guest

      I called actually and was told i can do 2 transactions, but somehow i want to re confirm. i will try next time for the agent to do it for me if possible. I do not want to risk losing emerald for 5000 points if i can do it online. but yea, stunning deal. considering i am based in LAX and can get all benefits when flying AA and other OW airlines

    4. Ryan Guest

      What number did you call? I also found this thread (from 2017, but mentions the same 45k limit). https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finnair-finnair-plus/1853038-exchange-award-tier-points-max-limit.html

    5. Matt Perchick Guest

      Reading all the terms, it is my understanding that you can only purchase half the number of points needed to reach the next tier. I jumped on this deal too and am trying to figure out how to get to platinum.

    6. Ryan Guest

      I called and finally got through. They said it was a know restriction (conversion being limited to 45,000 tier points via the online channel) but the agent logged a ticket and said that she was requesting some other team to do the whole 50,000 conversion for me. Should take a day. Will wait and see.

    7. Leo Guest

      Agent was able to upgrade my status immediately to platinum.

    8. Wai Boon Goh Guest

      So did you managed to do the Tier Points conversion in one go or two transaction? Via online or agent?

    9. Sam Guest

      Has it been confirmed when acquiring gold status through this promotion that we can indeed upgrade to platinum with 50,000 tier points converted from the points purchased? Thank you

    10. SR Guest

      The online form does not support bigger transactions. I took the same deal last year and had the same problem, I called CS and they did the conversion for me. At gold status you have access to gold CS line and they will answer faster than regular one

    11. Blaz Guest

      "Please note that exchanged points cannot make more than half of the tier points needed to maintain your current tier or to move up to the next one."

    12. Sam Guest

      Does that mean going up to platinum will work in this case?

  34. AG New Member

    Looks like AY classifies DXB / TLV within Europe, which presents some interesting opportunities.

    1. Daniel from Finland Guest

      They do. It's a definite sweet spot. However, "Europe" also means that service in Y is non-existent and in J it's bad. OTOH, DXB flights are operated by widebodies this season, so J is of great value even if the food is subpar (minuscule appetizer, hardy edible main course with one option only, cookie, all on one tray).

  35. Daniel from Finland Guest

    - AY Gold comes with 4 shorthaul vouchers.
    - AY Platinum comes with 2 longhaul and 4 shorthaul vouchers.
    - You can call CS and ask 4 shorthaul vouchers to be converted into one longhaul voucher
    - AY has unfortunately "enhanced" their catering in business class, and it's really subpar these days, even compared to AA

    1. Wai Boon Goh Guest

      I see the shorthaul vouchers only last for a year, can i keep the 4 shorthaul vouchers closer to the expiry and convert it to the one longhaul voucher and pray that the expiry will be extended by a year?

    2. Daniel from Finland Guest

      No. The converted voucher will retain its original validity.

      However, you only have to apply the voucher before it expires, but the flight itself can be after expiry. The downside here is, though, that if the voucher has expired and was applied to a waitlisted upgrade, you will lose the voucher if the waitlist doesn't clear.

  36. George Guest

    @Ben, great option, thanks for publicizing. Great article and analysis. I think you missed the cost associated with conversion. If you converted 50k points, it would cost at least $100, so in order to get the package of miles and status you described would be higher than the cost of just purchasing the 200k miles + 200k bonus. Very tempted as I fly American domestically and haven't decided what my fall 2022 trip will be.

    1. SR Guest

      No, it is 10€ per transaction, not per 5K. The transaction can be larger. So if you convert 150K reward points to 50k tier points, it only costs you 10€.

  37. david Guest

    Not really interested in Finnair until they reopen the Platinum Wing.

  38. Drew Guest

    Could you wait until later to use 50,000 points to covert to Platinum, and then have a full 12-months at Platinum? So you'd have Gold by virtue of the points purchase, and then use the conversion both to move up to Platinum and extend the elite status, so you'd potentially have two years of status, one at Gold and one at Platinum?

    1. Drew Guest

      Correction - I meant convert 150,000 points = 50,000 tier points

    2. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Drew -- That's a great question as well. Hopefully some Finnair Plus expert can chime in.

    3. JS Guest

      The last calendar month of your 12-month tracking period is personal, it's the month when you originally created your Finnair Plus account and starts over the same time every year. The tracking period is never extended (except now, because of the pandemic), not even if you reach any tier.

      Whenever you reach a new tier, you get to keep that tier for the rest of your tracking period + the entire next 12-month tracking period....

      The last calendar month of your 12-month tracking period is personal, it's the month when you originally created your Finnair Plus account and starts over the same time every year. The tracking period is never extended (except now, because of the pandemic), not even if you reach any tier.

      Whenever you reach a new tier, you get to keep that tier for the rest of your tracking period + the entire next 12-month tracking period. You would get the biggest benefit if your tracking period just started. So if you use this promotion now to earn status, I suppose you will get longest duration if your tracking period just started in December (or if you just created your account). That should give you almost 2 years worth of status.

      That also means that it doesn't make sense to delay the jump to Platinum. Do it right away to get the most of it.

    4. SR Guest

      No, when you reach a new level, what is left of your current period is converted to that level and you immediately get the benefits, meaning the vouchers. Then when your current period ends, your next 12 month period starts with the achieved level and you get again those vouchers, so this is best done when your period just starts. You will get 2 years of platinum and going through gold you also get those vouchers in between.

  39. Wai Boon Goh Guest

    I just checked. A tracking period always lasts 12 months and recurs automatically. When you reach a new tier, that tier membership will continue for the rest of your previous tracking period plus the next 12 months.

    Meaning to say if you buy the miles and got to Platinum status by December 27, 2021, your tracking year starts on December 27,2021 if you registered your account by that same date that you bought the miles....

    I just checked. A tracking period always lasts 12 months and recurs automatically. When you reach a new tier, that tier membership will continue for the rest of your previous tracking period plus the next 12 months.

    Meaning to say if you buy the miles and got to Platinum status by December 27, 2021, your tracking year starts on December 27,2021 if you registered your account by that same date that you bought the miles. So which means you will have Platinum Status from December 27,2021 till December 26, 2022 (tracking year) PLUS 12 more months of platinum which means will last until December 25, 2023.

    1. Leo Guest

      So, if someone signs up today, buys 200,000 miles (+200,000), then also converts 150,000 to 50,000 tier points. then one reaches 150,000 tier points (platinum level) and the platinum level will be valid till December 25 2023?

    2. Wai Boon Goh Guest

      Yes correct, mine shows my platinum is until 31 January 2024 LOL. Fantastic opportunity to jump into the bandwagon. 4 intercontinental business class (2 from the 8 regional upgrades conversion) free upgrades plus 250k Award miles and FIRST CLASS LOUNGE FOR 2 years, not too shabby :)

  40. dale Guest

    I don’t think OneWorld Sapphire will get you lounge access on domestic, a minor point in this that you state several times, unless I’m misssing something in connecting AA Plat with same.

    Interesting article.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ dale -- Sapphire or Emerald status with oneworld through a non-US airline gets you lounge access whenever flying on any oneworld airline, even if it's domestic. Only Alaska Mileage Plan and American AAdvantage elites only get lounge access on select international itineraries.

    2. Leo A Guest

      hi Ben, but if I were to buy a domestic ticket on AA, I would need to change the crediting airline to Finnair in order to use the AA lounges, correct? And thus creating an opportunity cost miss to help keep my EP status?

  41. mgrappy New Member

    >> You could buy 400,000 points (including the 100% bonus) for $2,909, and then you’d receive 100,000 tier points (enough for Finnair Gold, which gets you oneworld Sapphire — this would allow you to access American Flagship Lounges even on domestic itineraries, for example)
    >> You could then convert 150,000 points into 50,000 tier points (enough for Finnair Platinum)

    It's worth noting that Finnair Platinum also comes with 2 one-way intercontinental upgrade vouchers (worth...

    >> You could buy 400,000 points (including the 100% bonus) for $2,909, and then you’d receive 100,000 tier points (enough for Finnair Gold, which gets you oneworld Sapphire — this would allow you to access American Flagship Lounges even on domestic itineraries, for example)
    >> You could then convert 150,000 points into 50,000 tier points (enough for Finnair Platinum)

    It's worth noting that Finnair Platinum also comes with 2 one-way intercontinental upgrade vouchers (worth 50k each), which could offset most of the 150k award points used to upgrade your status to platinum.

  42. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    PLEASE UPDATE YOUR DESIGN. The amount of ads are making the website unreadable. Not to mention the horrendous design and font.

  43. Ron Guest

    Sounds great. How about restrictions/availability on the Economy upgrade to Business? How easy or difficult is this versus other Airlines?

  44. Fathiss Guest

    I’ll point out the Singapore Airline recent promotion that promised the bonus miles would count towards elite status and would post by Dec 14th. They never did so Singapore refused to honor the T&Cs of their offer.
    But I haven’t seen any blogger call Dingapore out on it yet.
    Be weary of what is promised vs delivered.
    That being said, if they do honor the terms this is an excellent offer.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Fathiss -- You're talking about the Singapore Airlines conversion bonus, where the airline offered a bonus on its end when transferring points? If so, when did the airline ever promise that those bonus miles would count towards the status promotion? That's not how I read the terms...

      In this case it's explicit what counts and what doesn't.

    2. SINJim Guest

      I received elite status credit when I made Chase >> SQ and Citibank >> SQ transfers. I cannot post a screen shot here so I have copied/pasted the text from my KrisFlyer page to show an example from just before Thanksgiving. I transferred 50,000 Chase points and received 50,000 + 7,500 miles along with 10,000 elite miles credit. I have become KrisFlyer Gold this year without flying one paid mile.

      24 Nov 2021 Accruals
      ...

      I received elite status credit when I made Chase >> SQ and Citibank >> SQ transfers. I cannot post a screen shot here so I have copied/pasted the text from my KrisFlyer page to show an example from just before Thanksgiving. I transferred 50,000 Chase points and received 50,000 + 7,500 miles along with 10,000 elite miles credit. I have become KrisFlyer Gold this year without flying one paid mile.

      24 Nov 2021 Accruals
      Unlock Status Credits Campaign 0 10000 0
      24 Nov 2021 Accruals
      KrisFlyer Bonus Miles Conversion Campaign 2021 7500 0 0
      21 Nov 2021 Accruals
      JP Morgan Chase MEMBERSHIP MILES TRANSFER 50000 0

    3. Fathiss Guest

      Ben, today they changed the date on the promotion website. Previously it stated Dec 14. Here is what it says today:
      “ KrisFlyer Bonus Miles Conversion Campaign 2021

      Due to additional processing time involved, the crediting of Status Credits (Elite Miles or PPS Values) on bonus miles earned from this Campaign will take place progressively from 23 December 2021. We apologise for any inconveniences caused.”

      So perhaps they will eventually honor it.

    4. Fathiss Guest

      https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/sg/ppsclub-krisflyer/latestnews/kf-bonus-miles-conversion-2021/

    5. Tobias Guest

      Hi Ben,
      thanks for the great overview!
      Do you know whether the flight has to start from Helsinki/Stockholm (going to Asia) in order to cost 160000 miles for business return? Or would other departures in Europe with stopover in Helsinki also come at the same price?

      Also, I assume that it‘s possible to buy two tickets for the same flight for my partner and myself eventhough only I hold the status?

      Thanks a lot for your effort!

    6. SR Guest

      No it does not, you can fly from any city in Europe, with stopover in Helsinki to Asia or America for those points, as long as all flights are operated by Finnair. So for example BCN-HEL-HND-HEL-BCN would cost 90k/150k same as HEL-HND-HEL. You can also use 4 SH business upgrade vouchers to get those flights for 2, for points of one. But only in economy, not business. But buying platinum would give you 2 LH...

      No it does not, you can fly from any city in Europe, with stopover in Helsinki to Asia or America for those points, as long as all flights are operated by Finnair. So for example BCN-HEL-HND-HEL-BCN would cost 90k/150k same as HEL-HND-HEL. You can also use 4 SH business upgrade vouchers to get those flights for 2, for points of one. But only in economy, not business. But buying platinum would give you 2 LH upgrade vouchers, so you could fly business one direction.

      You can buy reward flights for entire group with your points, no problem. You can also transfer points to other members for a fee of 10€ per transaction.

    7. SR Guest

      I took this deal last year and it worked just as written here. I got the tier points, converted reward points to tier points and got platinum.

      Don't know about SIA but AY deal works.

  45. Klaus Guest

    Interesting. So for 2060EUR/USD2340 we would get 320.000 award points. That would get two people from the US to Europe and back in business class. In addition, this comes with 80.000 tier points = one world Sapphire status (which would be comparable to Gold status on Star Alliance & SkyTeam).

    The big questions are:
    - If I buy the points on the 27th, will I get the tier points in 2022 so that status...

    Interesting. So for 2060EUR/USD2340 we would get 320.000 award points. That would get two people from the US to Europe and back in business class. In addition, this comes with 80.000 tier points = one world Sapphire status (which would be comparable to Gold status on Star Alliance & SkyTeam).

    The big questions are:
    - If I buy the points on the 27th, will I get the tier points in 2022 so that status is valid until 02/2024?
    - How much are the taxes for a booking between the US and Europe?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Klaus -- Taxes and fees are very low. For example, a New York to Stockholm award just has the standard $5.60 in taxes & fees.

      Status is valid for the same amount of time status would usually be valid. I'd assume that's through the end of 2022, or maybe even early 2023, though I'm sure someone else can chime in with a definitive answer. I don't see how waiting until December 27 would make status valid any longer.

    2. MichaelG Guest

      Finnair operates a 12-month fiscal membership year, that runs at the end of month that you join (e.g. join Dec 16, 2021, and your membership year ends Dec 31, 2022). When I qualified for Finnair Gold for the first time in August 2018, I had Gold until the end of that membership year (Oct 31, 2018) and then it renewed through Oct 31, 2019. So, if that logic were to hold, status gained now would...

      Finnair operates a 12-month fiscal membership year, that runs at the end of month that you join (e.g. join Dec 16, 2021, and your membership year ends Dec 31, 2022). When I qualified for Finnair Gold for the first time in August 2018, I had Gold until the end of that membership year (Oct 31, 2018) and then it renewed through Oct 31, 2019. So, if that logic were to hold, status gained now would be valid immediately through Dec 31, 2022 and then for another membership year.

      Waiting until Dec 27 is unlikely to make status last longer, since the membership year should be based on the end of the month. I've also never seen Finnair have fuel surcharges on its own metal-- just the standard taxes and fees.

    3. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ MichaelG -- Interesting, thanks! My account shows that my "tracking period ends 31 Aug 2022." So I guess that would mean my status would be valid for three months beyond that, through August 31, 2023, at a minimum? Hmmm, now this is sounding a bit more tempting...

    4. mgrappy New Member

      This promo actually stacks with the same promo Finnair offered November 2020. Finnair has extended status by 6 months 3 or 4 times now, and they extended it by extending each person's tracking period, so any tier points gained a year ago from this promotion are still part of the current tracking period and so should actually stack with any tier points gained from this promotion now.

    5. SR Guest

      This deal would convert your current period to platinum until 31 Aug 2022. You will immediately get the vouchers for reaching gold and platinum. After that your next 12 month period starts at platinum and you will get new platinum level vouchers. So if you buy this now you will get almost 2 years of platinum and 4LH and 12SH vouchers. Also you can twice gift a gold card as platinum. So it really is a great deal.

    6. AY Guest

      Purchase points on the 27th. If new account, your status period is until December 26th 2022. Since you have received enough for Gold, your Gold would be valid until 12/2023 if there would be no extensions. As soon as you got Gold status and four shorthaul vouchers in your account(convertable to one long haul voucher), convert award miles to get a Platinum. Your Platinum is valid until 12/2023. You will get additional two longhaul and...

      Purchase points on the 27th. If new account, your status period is until December 26th 2022. Since you have received enough for Gold, your Gold would be valid until 12/2023 if there would be no extensions. As soon as you got Gold status and four shorthaul vouchers in your account(convertable to one long haul voucher), convert award miles to get a Platinum. Your Platinum is valid until 12/2023. You will get additional two longhaul and four shorthaul vouchers(convertable to one long haul). Now you have a Platinum status, four longhaul upgrade vouchers redeemable until 12/23 with flights until 12/24. Then you can gift a Gold card(OneWorld Sapphire), which is valid for one year and that person would get also four shorthaul vouchers(convertable to one longhaul) that could be used by you or any other person. Plus you have your points leftovers.

    7. Wai Boon Goh Guest

      Yup! Spot on!

  46. Brian Guest

    It's intriguing but how long would Emerald status last? Might be worth it if it lasts until the end of 2023.

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Brian -- I believe through the end of 2022 or early 2023. It's as if you qualify this year, and status is ordinarily valid for at least one full year.

    2. Sam Guest

      Wondering the same. If the status year ends 01/31 that may mean status earned in 2022? Not sure. Hopefully someone can shed some info on this. Thanks

  47. Klaus Guest

    If you buy 400.00 points you would actually pay 200.000 points and would receive 50.000 Tier points? Not 100.000?

    1. Ben Schlappig OMAAT

      @ Klaus -- You get the 25% bonus on the total amount, including the bonus. That's pretty explicit on the promotion page.

    2. Klaus Guest

      You’re right. Just checked out the promo and it says „For example, purchase 200,000 award points, and we’ll reward you with 200,000 bonus award points and 100,000 bonus tier points!“

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Daniel from Finland Guest

They do. It's a definite sweet spot. However, "Europe" also means that service in Y is non-existent and in J it's bad. OTOH, DXB flights are operated by widebodies this season, so J is of great value even if the food is subpar (minuscule appetizer, hardy edible main course with one option only, cookie, all on one tray).

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Daniel from Finland Guest

- AY Gold comes with 4 shorthaul vouchers. - AY Platinum comes with 2 longhaul and 4 shorthaul vouchers. - You can call CS and ask 4 shorthaul vouchers to be converted into one longhaul voucher - AY has unfortunately "enhanced" their catering in business class, and it's really subpar these days, even compared to AA

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AY Guest

Purchase points on the 27th. If new account, your status period is until December 26th 2022. Since you have received enough for Gold, your Gold would be valid until 12/2023 if there would be no extensions. As soon as you got Gold status and four shorthaul vouchers in your account(convertable to one long haul voucher), convert award miles to get a Platinum. Your Platinum is valid until 12/2023. You will get additional two longhaul and four shorthaul vouchers(convertable to one long haul). Now you have a Platinum status, four longhaul upgrade vouchers redeemable until 12/23 with flights until 12/24. Then you can gift a Gold card(OneWorld Sapphire), which is valid for one year and that person would get also four shorthaul vouchers(convertable to one longhaul) that could be used by you or any other person. Plus you have your points leftovers.

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